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A62284	The reformation of the Church of England justified according to the canons of the Council of Nice, and other general councils, and the tradition of the Catholick Church being an answer to a paper reprinted at Oxford, called (The schism of the Church of England) demonstrated in four arguments, formerly proposed to Dr. Gunning and Dr. Pearson the late bishops of Ely and Chester, by two Catholick disputants, in a celebrated conference upon that point : in which answer the unworthy and false dealings of the papists are shewed, and the charge of schism returned upon them, and the Church of England proved truly Catholick and apostolick in her doctrine and constitution / by Dr. Saywell.	Saywell, William, 1643-1701.	1688 (1688)	Wing S804; ESTC R34023	26,158	36

upon his own Head and evidently prove himself and other English Papists guilty of Schism An ANSWER to a Paper called the Schism of the CHURCH of ENGLAND demonstrated c. IT has been the constant Profession of the Church of England that the Word of God interpreted by Catholick Tradition and a truly Oecumenical Council not a Patriarchal one of a few Italians in the West ought to be hearkened to in Matters that concern the Peace and Unity of the Church And it has been also frequently and learnedly proved by our English Bishops and Divines that the Points in difference between the Church of England and the Church of Rome are so far from being Matters of Faith that they are modern Errors imposed upon the Christian World besides and contrary to the Determinations of General Councils and Catholick Tradition so that our dissent about them from the Roman Church can be by no means accounted Heretical or Schismatical but all these Arguments urged by the Oxford Paper will evidently prove that those Bishops Priests and Lay-men that set up Altar against Altar and hold separate Congregations in Opposition to the Church of England do break the order of Catholick Communion and are guilty of Schism But before I apply my self to return an Answer to the several Arguments it will be requisite to give a short account of the Reformation In the Reign of Hen. 8. there was an Assembly held the Determinations whereof are now extant and to be seen wherein the Archbishops and Bishops Bishop Bonner and Gardner Voysey Heath Tunstall amongst the rest did declare that the Bishop of Rome ought to have no jurisdiction here in England but the Archbishops and Bishops and the National Church had Power to order all Matters within themselves without the concurrence of the Pope so as they did keep to the Faith and Unity of the Catholick Church and for this they alledged the Authority of the Council of Nice and other General Councils And as for the byshoppe of Rome it was many hundreth yeres after Christe before he coude acquire or gette any primacy or gouernance above any other byshoppes out of his province in Italie Sithe the whyche tyme he hath ever vsurped more and more And though some parte of his power was gyven unto hym by the consent of the emperours kynges and princis and by the consent also of the clergie in generalle councelles assembled yet surely he atteyned the moste parte thereof by meruaylous subtiltie and crafte and speciallye by colludynge with greatte kynges and princis sometyme trayninge theym into his deuotion by pretence and colour of holynes and sanctimonie and some tyme constraining them by force and tyranny Wherby the sayde byshoppes of Rome aspired and arose at lengthe vnto suche greatnes in strength and auctoritie that they presumed and toke vpon them to be heddes and to put lawes by their owne auctoritie not onely vnto al other byshoppes within Christendome but also vnto themperours kinges other the princis and lordes of the worlde and that under the pretence of the auctoritie commytted vnto them by the gospell Wherin the saide bishops of Rome do not onely abuse and peruerte the true sense and meaning of Christis worde but they doo also cleane contrarie to the vse and custome of the primitiue churche and also do manyfestly violate as well the holy canons made in the churche immediately after the tyme of the apostels as also the decrees and constitutions made in that behalfe by the holy fathers of the catholike churche assembled in the fyrst general councels and finally they do transgresse theyr owne profession made in their creation For all the byshoppes of Rome always whan they be consecrated and made byshoppes of that see do make a solemn profession and vowe that they shall inuiolably obserue and kepe all the ordinances made in the eight first general councels amonge the whiche it is specially provided and enacted that all causes shall be fynished and determyned within the prouince where the same be begon and that by the byshops of the same prouince and that no byshop shall exercise any iurisdiction out of his owne diocese or province aud dyverse suche other canons were then made and confyrmed by the sayd councels to represse and take away out of the churche al suche primacy and iurisdiction ouer kinges and bishops as the bishops of Rome pretend now to haue ouer the same In the Reign of King Edward 6. The Bishops and Clergy having free Liberty to meet and debate of Matters of Religion without the Pope did find other Abuses and Corruptions besides that of the Pope's Usurpation over the Governours of the Church and did in the Convocation 1552. establish Articles of Religion a publick Liturgy and Book of Ordination the same in substance with those that are now in use amongst us and the Archbishops and a far major part of the Bishops were consenting thereunto not above 5 or 6 were displaced for their disorderly behaviour and dissent from their Brethren and others by the Metropolitan and Bishops of the Province ordained and settled in their Bishopricks according to the usual custom of that time as all Historians and our very Adversaries are forced to confess The Church of England being thus regularly settled was never from that time to this very day regularly changed by any Canonical Authority but has oftentimes been confirmed since both by the Authority of the Convocation and of our Kings and Parliaments and consequently the present Bishops are Lawful Pastors without any guilt of Heresy or Schism and all within their several charges are bound by the Council of Nice and other general Councils to live in their Communion and to submit to them as those that are appointed by the Holy Ghost to direct and govern them in Matters of Religion and all Neighbour Churches are obliged to allow us the Communion of Coordinate Churches and to own us as true Members of Christ's mystical Body The Holy Catholick Church The only Objection of any Moment that is made against this Regular Succession is from the interruption it met with in the short Reign of Queen Mary But when the Matter of Fact is looked into it will appear that nothing which was done in her Reign will be any prejudice to our Succession nor can by any means take off the Regular Settlement of the Church of England by the Convocation in King Edward's Reign but that the Acts thereof are still in force except in some particulars which have been changed by Convocations afterwards For the Synods which were held and the Ordinations that were made in Queen Mary's days were not carried on in a Regular Manner by the Archbishops and Bishops of the Province but by the Authority of the Pope and those Bishops which were justly deposed and set aside and so had no jurisdiction nor any right or title to exercise their Authority in this Realm and therefore could

withdraw their People from their Obedience and set up Altar against Altar in a Schismatical manner and I wish they could say as much that they did not go about to disturb our Peace and Communion But secondly there is a Communion of Subordination that which all Bishops Priests and all others owe of submission to the Archbishops and Bishops c. and to the Canons and Constitutions of each Province and Nation in all Lawful things and this is heartily done by all true Members of the Church of England herein we follow the command of God Obey them that have the rule over you the command of the Council of Nice and other General Councils the Laws Ecclesiastical and Civil of this Church and Nation But those that call themselves Roman Catholicks are plainly guilty of Schism for they separate from the Communion of all Coordinate Churches which will not embrace their Errors and be subject to their Authority they send Emissaries abroad all over Christendom to withdraw Persons from their Obedience to their own Bishops and set up Altar against Altar Communion against Communion contrary to the constant Order of the Catholick Church So that the Disorders Tumults Conventicles which he complains of in England are Chargeable upon them But the Protestants of the Church of England are in Doctrine most Pure in Charity most Catholick and in their Practice and Publick Service most conformable to the Primitive and Catholick Church of any in the World. The second Argument WHoever adhere to Schismatical Pastors as Schismatical is understood in our Definition are Schismaticks But all English Protestants adhere to Schismatical Pastors as Schismatical is understood in our Definition therefore all English Protestants are Schismaticks He goes about to prove that we adhere to Schismatical Pastors because we derive our Succession from those that Ordained Archbishop Parker and others in Opposition to the major Part of the English Bishops who were then alive and into the Places of many of them while they were alive and never Lawfully Deprived This is the Substance of the second Argument In Answer to which I deny that the Bishops set aside in Queen Elizabeth's Reign were Lawful Bishops of the Church of England because they were violently and uncanonically thrust in or rather they invaded those Bishopricks in Queen Mary's Days So that the Bishops which Ordained Archbishop Parker and others and those that held Communion with them were the only Lawful Regular Bishops of the Church of England at that time they being Regularly constituted in King Edward's Days and never legally Deprived All the other of King Edward's Bishops which complied except Thirlby and Kitchin were dead and so the full Authority must remain with the rest that survived and they all but Thirlby did concur in the Ordination of Archbishop Parker and others or Communicated with them Neither was Archbishop Parker and many others consecrated into other Mens Places while they were alive for Cardinal Poole the Archbishop of Canterbury and about nine or ten Bishops more were Dead and Archbishop Parker and others were elected confirmed and consecrated into vacant Places in due Order according to the usage of this Kingdom for many Ages except in the Form of the Ordinal in which there was nothing wanting to the Essence and Validity of their Consecration So that Archbishop Parker's Authority and many others is beyond Dispute also by the tacit consent of the rest who ought to have opposed it at their Confirmation when they were summon'd to that purpose if they had any Legal Exception to make against their being made Bishops which being not done and the Consecration proceeding they are in all Reason and Justice shut out from any further Opposition and they ought to be concluded to have given their tacit Consent which we may the rather believe because many of them agreed to the Reformations in King H. 8. and King Edw. 6. Days and seem more now for Political than Ecclesiastical Reasons to refuse to comply because they had made themselves Obnoxious to all Parties already by their former Changes and Cruelty So they thought it better to regain their Credit with the Romanists by their standing out than to be looked upon as Time-servers and little regarded by the People But then this Argument does demonstratively return upon the Author himself and the Popish Bishops in Queen Mary's Days as will appear by the following Catalogue Bishops justly Deposed in King Edward's Days for not obeying the Laws and their Deposition consented to and approved by the Bishops as appears by their Ordaining others into their Places Bishop Bonner of London Bishop Gardner of Winchester Bishop Day of Chichester Bishop Heath of Worcester Bishop Voysey of Exeter Some say he resigned Bishop Tunstall of Durham Who is said to have resigned Bishops rightly Consecrated and in actual Possession at King Edward's Death Archbishop Cranmer of Canterbury Consecr Hen. 8. Bishop Ridley of London Edw. 6. Bishop Poynet of Winchester Edw. 6. Bishop Goodrick of Ely. Hen. 8. Bishop Salscot alias Capon of Salisbury Hen. 8. Bishop Chambers of Peterburgh Hen. 8. Bishop King of Oxford Hen. 8. Bishop Bulkley of Bangor Hen. 8. Bishop Parfew alias Wharton of St. Asaph Hen. 8. Bishop Samson of Lich. and Coventry Hen. 8. Bishop Kitchin of Landaffe Hen. 8. Bishop Bush of Bristol Hen. 8. Bishop Bartow of Bath and Wells Hen. 8. Bishop Ferrar of St. David's Edw. 6. Bishop Scory of Chichester Edw. 6. Bishop Hooper of Worcester and Glocester Edw. 6. Bishop Coverdale of Exeter Edw. 6. Bishop Taylor of Lincoln Edw. 6. Bishop Harley alias Harvey of Hereford Edw. 6. Rochester void In the Province of York Archbishop Holgate of York Consecrated Hen. 8. Bishop Aldrich of Carlisle Hen. 8. Bishop Bird of Chester Hen. 8. Durham void Of these in the Province of Canterbury Archbishop Cranmer Bishop Ridley Poynot Scory Coverdale Taylor Harvey alias Harley Bush Hooper Ferrar and Barlow were removed A. D. 1554 as Dr. Burnet relates Bishop Goodrick died about that Time and all the rest that complied except Bishop Thirlby and Bishop Kitchin either before or about the Time of Queen Mary's Death And it does not appear they were at all Active in turning our their Brethren In the Province of York Archbishop Holgate Bishop Bird turned out In the Province of Canterbury Rochester being void and Worcester and Glocester united there could be but Twenty in all and we find here Eleven i. e. the Archbishop and Major Part of the Bishops unjustly and uncanonically turned out In the Province of York Durham was void so Archbishop Holgate and Bishop Bird were the Major Part unjustly turned out Now let me take up our Author's Argument Whosoever possess the Sees and Offices of Lawful Bishops those Lawful Bishops yet living or unite themselves to such as possess them are such Schismatical Pastors This is our Author 's Major Proposition to which I add this Minor. But the Popish Bishops that were set aside

in Queen Elizabeth's Reign did possess the Places of Lawful Bishops yet living or united themselves to such as did possess them therefore they were Schismatical and no Lawful Bishops of the Church of England For as soon as these Lawful Bishops were turned out others were put into their Places and not only so but contrary to all Rule and ordorly Government in the Church For the most certain Fundamental Constitution of the Church in all Ages and the constant Order of all Societies which is always tacitly supposed tho' not formally observed is that while particular Churches keep to the Faith and Unity of the Catholick Church as ours had done all things ought to be managed by the Archbishop and Bishops of the Province and so by the Chief Governors and main Body of the Society or else things cannot be Regularly done but here the Archbishop and the Major Part of the Bishops are set aside and others put into their Places while they were yet alive and Dr. Burnet adds that of the inferiour Clergy who were Sixteen Thousand Twelve Thousand were likewise turned out so there could be nothing Regularly done by the Convocation either in the Upper or Lower House And further they were not content with the present Possession but secretly said in their Minds These are the Heirs come let us kill them and their Inheritance shall be ours therefore after they had bereaved them of their Bishopricks and their Livings they quickly took away many of their Lives And are not all these Men Schismaticks with a Witness and all those that were Ordained by them into other Mens Places and Government It matters not to our business to pursue all the Successions and Changes in Queen Mary's Days I will rather proceed to consider the State of the Bishopricks after Queen Mary's Death when Queen Elizabeth restored the Church to that Regular Constitution which was settled before by the undoubted Lawful Archbishops and Bishops in King Edward's Days Bishopricks void by Death Archbishop Poole of Canterbury Bishop King of Oxford Bishop Capon of Salisbury Bishop Parfew of Hereford Bishop Holyman of Bristol Bishop Glin of Bangor Bishop Brookes of Glocester Bishop 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Norwich void Rochester void Bishops in Possession of the other Bishopricks but uncanonically for the Reasons above named Bishop Bonner of London Bishop Thirlby of Ely. Bishop White of Winchester Bishop Watson of Lincoln Bishop Pool of Peterburgh Bishop Bourne of Bath and Wells Bishop Turbervill of Exeter Bishop Bayne of Lichfield and Coventry Bishop Christophorson of Chichester Bishop Pates of Wonchester Bishop Goldwell of St. Asaph Bishop Kitchin of Landaffe Who conformed In the Province of York Archbishop Heath of York Bishop Tunstall of Durham Bishop Scot of Chester Bishop Oglethorp of Carlisle 'T is confessed that 14 or 15 were turned out or went away in Queen Elizabeth's Days but according to our Author 's own Argument they were Schismaticks and no Lawful Bishops because they came into the Places of Lawful Bishops while they were alive or else were ordained by and communicated with such Schismaticks I add they usurped their Places by turning out the Metropolitans and Major Part of the Bishops of each Province and so could have no Lawful Authority or Jurisdiction Queen Elizabeth therefore set them aside and so removed this Violence and Usurpation And being willing to restore all things as they were settled in King Edward's Reign she calls back the Bishops that were still alive which were only Five in number Bishop Barlow Scory Coverdale Kitchin and Thirlby And all but Thirlby concurred in settling the Reformation so we had still the Major Part of the Lawful Bishops to renew the Succession and they did Ordain Archbishop Parker and others and it has been Regularly continued ever since Thus the Authority of our present Bishops as to Order and Jurisdiction is beyond dispute One Objection was insisted upon by Queen Mary and others to justify the Deprivation of the Protestant Bishops and others of the Clergy because some of them were married Men and perhaps they married after Orders which was threatned with Deposition by many ancient Canons To which I Answer that living in a Married Estate is not by Divine Authority inconsistent with the Exercise of the Priesthood but was always allowed in the Church and ever practised in the Greek Church till this Day and has been oftentimes dispensed withal in the Roman Church for secular Ends. So that the allowing Marriage before or after Orders is a Circumstance that depends upon the Discretion of the Church and if for some Reasons Clergy-men were heretofore prohibited to marry after Orders yet in this long Interval of General Councils upon the great Experience of the Mischiefs and Inconveniences that came by forbidding it particular Churches may dispense with that Rigour accordingly this Provincial and National Church and the Law of the Land which had much better Authority than the Pope had left every body to their Liberty to marry or not to marry as they saw good and so they that did marry offended against no Law of God and Man and therefore were unjustly Deposed from their Bishopricks upon that Account But then our Author says that they in Queen Mary's Days were Lawful Bishops and he proves it from the Confession of Protestants who grant that the Church of Rome and all those of her Communion are true Churches of Christ. Now as to the first Part of the Argument I Answer In time of great Schism and tumultuous Proceedings there may be so far the Remains of a true Church that many Pious Christians who are not at all or else ignorantly ingaged in the Schism may be saved but we have no Reason to say that the Popish Bishops in Queen Mary's Days were Lawful Bishops or the governing Part were then the National Church of England the true Right and Authority of the Church was in those Lawful Bishops that were made in King Edward's Days and that was the true Church of England which did adhere to them and their Constitutions But then the Author does Object that Protestants do grant that the Church of Rome and all those of her Communion are true Churches of Christ. Never was People's Charity more abused than ours of the Church of England has been in this kind to justify the Errors and Schism of the Church of Rome and all upon a mere and generally wilful Mistake In short therefore 't is true and we do acknowledge that the Substance of the Christian Religion is professed by the Church of Rome tho' mingled with Errors And so many that honestly and sincerely serve God in her Communion may be saved but yet many may be damned for too pertinaciously maintaining and propagating the Errors of the Church of Rome especially those that desert and refuse Obedience to the Bishops of the Church of England setting up Altar against Altar and so keeping up a Schism amongst us where they have such plentiful Means of being better