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A47152 Immediate revelation, or, Jesus Christ the eternall Son of God revealed in man and revealing the knowledge of God and the things of his kingdom immediately : or, the Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit of promise, the spirit of prophecy poured forth and inspiring man and induing him with power from on high ... not ceased, but remaining a standing and perpetual ordinance in the Church of Christ and being of indispensible necessity as to the whole body in general ... / writ by George Keith, prisoner of the truth in the Tolbooth of Aberdein, the 29th of the third moneth, 1665. Keith, George, 1639?-1716. 1668 (1668) Wing K175; ESTC R28754 117,830 152

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Minister from the Spirit nor have received any ordinance there-from as is Manifest both from their Principles and Practises The 7th of the 4th Month 1668. G. K. FINIS POSTSCRIPT RObert Barron his Book Entituled Apodipis Catholica de formali objecto fidei coming to my hands after the finishing of what I had writ concerning Immediate Revelation its remaining a standing Ordnance in the Church I found it fit to cite such particular places directing the Reader to his Words where at large he may see them Where he declareth his Doctrine concerning Immediate or inward Revelation Ex parte Objecti and ex parte Subjecti affirming that ex parte Objecti to be Ceased which con●…th the Prophets and Pen-men of the Scriptures to have had and that only this Revelation Ex parte Objecti is Revelation properly simply and according to the more usual way of speaking in the Scripture so called see Tract●… 9. Authors Duplic Puncto 2 Num. 13. 14. 15. Again a few leaves after puncto bt●… num 6. and num 5. Immediately preceeding he saith that which moves the Mind to give one assent to Truth objectively or by way of Object is Medium cognitum a known Midst it must be known and apprehended by the Mind that it may move it to assent but that which moveth effectively upon the part of Subject or Power which he calleth Revelation Ex parte Subjecti is Medium incognitum an unknown mid'st because saith he these helps upon the part of the subject may co-operate to produce one assent of Faith although they are not felt or known by us Let the Reader take a view of these places where he shall see that I have truly set down his Doctrine and his very words in that paper concerning Immediate Revelation and Tract 9. Quest. 8. Num. 5. He saith they falsly assert that we believe the authority of the Scriptures for or because of the inward testimony of the Spirit for we believe saith he the Divine Authority of the Scripture not for another thing but for the Scripture it self because that act of Faith whereby the Authority of the Scripture is believed leaneth upon the Scripture it self as it 's principal Foundation Some will say saith he some Orthodox Theologues speak far otherwayes for they most frequently affirm the Scripture authority to be believed for or because of the Inward Testimony of the Spirit ●…o which he roundly answereth and I desire the Reader to mark the answer whereby he may perceive either their or his Deceipt whereby they give poor people to believe that they deny not the Spirits Testimony or inward Teaching but when it comes to the point their false cover is taken off and they falsly deny it although saith he they speak otherwaies yet they think not otherwise for that word for or because of Latine propter is ambiguous and sometimes importeth a respect to the effective cause of assent but sometimes yea more often to the objective cause or Foundation upon which the assent of our mind leaneth c. This Robert Barron after long debate with the Iesuit Turnbull contending against the Papists That the authority of the Church of Rome is not the formal Object or Foundation of Faith or believing of the Scriptures cometh at last to refute their Doctrine which he calleth Errour and saith that it is most easily refuted who maintain the formal Object of Faith i. e. its Foundation to be the inward Revelation of the holy Spirit properly so called and for the Revelation of this Dectrine which Num. 6. he most of all condemneth he bringeth five Arguments Num. 8. Punct 6. Tract 9. And I find it fit to set them down also Word by Word Translated into English out of the Latin in which his book is writ that the Reader in whom the true discerning in any Measure is opened may see the blindness of this man in the things of God notwithstanding of all his Letter knowledge and what a woful condition this poor Nation has been in these many years for all their high pretences to be the most glorious and most purely reformed Church in the Earth and yet this Doctrine of Immediate Revelation wereby alone God can be sufficiently and saveingly known hath been by them and yet is by the present generation accounted so ridiculous that by this Man R. B. called Doctor of Divinity in Aberdeen and of great fame for his learning at home and abroad it is most of all condemned even more than the Popish Doctrine of resolveing their Faith in the Authority of the Church of Rome so that Scripture is fulfilled upon them Isa. 29. 13. 14. His Arguments are as followeth To every one of which as they ly in order I shall return a few words of answer which I hope shall satisfie the discerning and indeed they are so weak frivolous and vain that little or no answer is required were it not that fools some times are to be answered in their folly least they should seem wise in their own eyes as Solomon speaketh First saith he This way of knowing the Truth of the Doctrines of Faith viz. By the internal Revelation of the holy Spirit properly so called is Extraordinary and Prophetical as is Manifest of the aforesaid and consequentially the truth of the Christian Doctrine formerly and commonly is not so made known unto the Faithful Answ. This way of Internal Revelation Prophecy so called hath alwayes been not only Extraordinary but altogether shut up from the unbelieving and such who stuck in the Letter but it h●…h alwayes been common to the true Christians and Saints in all ages being the New Covenant Dispensatory which l●…eth not for ever Isa. 59. 21. That it was Prophetical i. e. Imparted to the Prophets is granted but it follows not that therefore it is not the common priviledge of all Saints who were to have the like precious Faith with them and though it was rare in the days of old yet God hath poured cut according to his Promise Ioel 2. 28 29. Largely upon Sons and Daughters of his Spirit whereby they Prophecy Secondly saith he who imbrace this Errour they confound the gift of Faith and the gift of Prophecy for the most noble k●…nd of prophetical Revelation is that which is by Intellectual speaking or illumination as Thomas and Suarez teach Answ. 1. Who imbrace this supposed Err●…ur but indeed Truth Do not confound the gift of Faith and the gift of Prophecy the spirit of Faith and the spirit of Prophecy is one but the opperations different 1 Cor. 12. 4 5 6. Now if by the gift of Prophecy he understand as he seemeth to do the inward Manifestation or speaking of God Immediately to the mind Faith is hereby wrought viz. God this speaking or Manifesting the truth Immediately in the Mind is the cause of Faith and so as the cause and effect are different so the Prophetical Revelation and the Faith of what is Revealed are different opperations For because God