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the_o abridgement_n cit_v for_o the_o perfection_n of_o the_o scripture_n where_o 1._o the_o defendant_n answer_v for_o himself_o that_o his_o meaning_n be_v not_o of_o matter_n mere_o ceremonial_a and_o so_o say_v i_o the_o meaning_n of_o our_o argument_n be_v not_o of_o such_o mere_a ceremony_n as_o the_o defendant_n here_o describe_v in_o the_o end_n of_o this_o section_n if_o he_o mean_v by_o mere_a ceremony_n mere_a order_n and_o decency_n but_o our_o ceremony_n be_v of_o another_o nature_n because_o they_o have_v doctrine_n or_o teach_n in_o they_o and_o therefore_o be_v doctrinal_a as_o he_o please_v to_o speak_v or_o mix_v 2._o confess_v that_o in_o one_o place_n he_o speak_v of_o ceremony_n he_o limit_v his_o speech_n to_o such_o ceremony_n as_o be_v make_v essential_a part_n of_o a_o sacrament_n as_o milk_n in_o stead_n of_o wine_n sop_v in_o of_o bread_n into_o the_o cup_n and_o wring_v in_o of_o the_o grape_n these_o ceremony_n he_o account_v doctrinal_a but_o here_o i_o 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something_o concern_v those_o general_a rule_n which_o god_n have_v set_v down_o in_o his_o word_n for_o the_o direction_n of_o the_o church_n in_o rite_n and_o order_n ecclesiastical_a mention_v by_o the_o lincolnshire_n minister_n in_o this_o argument_n p._n 44._o but_o neither_o here_o nor_o in_o any_o other_o place_n of_o this_o book_n do_v the_o defendant_n so_o much_o as_o endeavour_n to_o show_v that_o our_o ceremony_n be_v needful_a and_o profitable_a for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o people_n by_o the_o more_o comely_a and_o orderly_a performance_n of_o that_o service_n which_o he_o have_v express_o prescribe_v in_o his_o word_n this_o be_v a_o main_a matter_n urge_v in_o the_o abridgement_n without_o which_o the_o ceremony_n can_v be_v innocent_a in_o their_o use_n and_o all_o that_o the_o defendant_n have_v hitherto_o endeavour_v to_o answer_n be_v in_o the_o abridgement_n bring_v in_o to_o other_o end_n then_o to_o prove_v that_o no_o ceremony_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v into_o the_o church_n without_o those_o condition_n and_o yet_o for_o all_o this_o our_o ceremony_n in_o this_o chief_a point_n be_v leave_v destitute_a of_o all_o defence_n if_o therefore_o all_o be_v grant_v which_o the_o defendant_n argumont_n or_o answer_n in_o this_o book_n maintain_v yet_o the_o ceremony_n will_v be_v find_v nocent_a and_o to_o be_v reject_v if_o it_o be_v but_o for_o their_o unprofitablenesse_n according_a to_o that_o of_o basil_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sect_n xvi_o the_o defendant_n here_o undertake_v to_o prove_v that_o god_n in_o the_o scripture_n have_v grant_v a_o general_a licence_n or_o authority_n to_o all_o church_n to_o ordain_v any_o ceremony_n that_o may_v be_v fit_a for_o the_o better_a serve_v of_o god_n but_o what_o if_o this_o be_v grant_v what_o be_v it_o to_o the_o purpose_n what_o make_v it_o for_o our_o ceremony_n in_o controversy_n except_o he_o can_v show_v that_o they_o be_v fit_a for_o the_o better_a serve_v of_o god_n now_o this_o he_o no_o where_o undertake_v to_o prove_v nor_o dare_v i_o think_v profess_v so_o much_o in_o writing_n without_o many_o unwarrantable_a limitation_n the_o only_a scripture_n he_o bring_v be_v 1._o cor._n 14._o 26._o 40._o concern_v order_n and_o decency_n a_o place_n much_o profane_v by_o the_o patron_n of_o our_o ceremony_n as_o shall_v be_v show_v this_o place_n be_v use_v say_v he_o by_o father_n and_o all_o divine_n for_o one_o and_o the_o same_o conclusion_n it_o be_v much_o use_v i_o grant_v and_o as_o much_o abuse_v but_o 1._o it_o be_v not_o use_v by_o all_o divine_n to_o prove_v the_o institution_n of_o such_o ceremony_n as_o we_o lawful_a for_o they_o be_v much_o mistake_v which_o think_v our_o ceremony_n to_o be_v mere_a matter_n of_o order_n and_o as_o for_o decency_n they_o have_v be_v often_o prove_v to_o be_v far_o from_o it_o which_o of_o itself_o to_o every_o indifferent_a eye_n be_v more_o than_o apparent_a 2._o it_o be_v not_o use_v to_o this_o purpose_n by_o any_o that_o have_v authority_n sufficient_a to_o persuade_v we_o that_o it_o will_v bear_v such_o a_o conclusion_n except_o they_o will_v show_v we_o by_o what_o logic_n they_o form_v their_o consequence_n which_o the_o defendant_n be_v not_o able_a to_o do_v for_o they_o 3._o this_o scripture_n be_v right_o understand_v do_v not_o only_o not_o justify_v such_o ceremony_n as_o we_o but_o plain_o condemn_v they_o for_o the_o manifest_v of_o which_o assertion_n because_o it_o may_v seem_v strange_a to_o those_o ear_n that_o be_v accustom_v to_o other_o sound_n i_o will_v here_o distinct_o set_v down_o a_o argument_n draw_v out_o of_o these_o word_n against_o such_o ceremony_n as_o we_o be_v all_o that_o be_v leave_v unto_o the_o church_n liberty_n in_o thing_n pertain_v unto_o god_n worship_n be_v to_o order_v they_o in_o comely_a manner_n this_o be_v manifest_o collect_v out_o of_o the_o place_n in_o question_n so_o the_o defendant_n seem_v to_o grant_v so_o p._n martyr_n understandeth_v it_o as_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o 1_o sam._n 14._o which_o judgement_n of_o he_o be_v cite_v and_o approve_v by_o d._n whitaker_n de_fw-fr pont_n p._n 841._o &_o 844._o confirm_v also_o by_o junius_n against_o bell._n cont_n 3._o l._n 4._o c._n 16._o n._n 86._o 87._o etc._n etc._n 17._o n._n 9_o 10._o 12._o 13._o where_o he_o show_v that_o christ_n be_v the_o only_a lawgiver_n that_o appoint_v thing_n in_o his_o church_n and_o that_o he_o have_v appoint_v all_o that_o be_v requisite_a and_o that_o the_o church_n make_v no_o law_n proper_o so_o call_v to_o appoint_v any_o new_a thing_n to_o be_v use_v but_o only_a canon_n order_n direction_n order_v in_o seemly_a manner_n those_o thing_n which_o christ_n have_v
appoint_v and_o that_o if_o she_o add_v any_o thing_n of_o her_o own_o she_o do_v decline_v the_o reason_n be_v because_o unto_o she_o be_v commit_v no_o authority_n of_o appoint_v new_a thing_n but_o a_o ministry_n to_o observe_v and_o do_v such_o thing_n which_o christ_n have_v appoint_v vide_fw-la etiam_fw-la jun._n de_fw-fr transl_fw-fr imper_v l._n 1._o c._n 2._o n._n 26._o 27._o 31._o this_o be_v also_o confirm_v by_o sound_a reason_n both_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o wisdom_n require_v in_o all_o lawmaker_n &_o perfect_o find_v in_o christ_n and_o also_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o such_o institution_n for_o the_o former_a reason_n teach_v as_o aristotle_n show_v rhet._n 1._o 3_o that_o all_o which_o possible_o may_v shall_v be_v appoint_v in_o the_o law_n by_o the_o giver_n of_o it_o and_o nothing_o leave_v unto_o the_o ministerial_a judge_n but_o that_o which_o must_v needs_o be_v leave_v as_o matter_n of_o fact_n etc._n etc._n now_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n all_o but_o particular_a circumstance_n of_o order_n may_v easy_o be_v appoint_v as_o in_o very_a deed_n they_o be_v by_o our_o lawgiver_n christ._n as_o for_o the_o nature_n of_o such_o institution_n that_o do_v also_o require_v so_o much_o for_o whatsoever_o be_v above_o civility_n therein_o if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o circumstance_n of_o order_n it_o be_v worship_n and_o therefore_o invent_v by_o man_n unlawful_a will-worship_n for_o whatsoever_o be_v use_v or_o act_v by_o he_o that_o worship_v god_n in_o that_o act_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v either_o ground_v on_o civil_a humane_a consideration_n and_o therefore_o civility_n or_o a_o act_n and_o mean_n of_o worship_n and_o therefore_o worship_n or_o the_o order_n and_o manner_n of_o dispose_v those_o act_n &_o mean_n and_o therefore_o lawful_a if_o lawful_o and_o fit_o apply_v or_o else_o at_o the_o least_o idle_a and_o vain_a and_o therefore_o to_o be_v avoid_v according_a to_o that_o of_o basil_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o five_o can_v be_v give_v by_o all_o this_o it_o may_v appear_v that_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o to_o appoint_v what_o she_o will_v no_o not_o of_o thing_n in_o their_o own_o nature_n indifferent_a and_o say_v they_o be_v in_o order_n or_o for_o order_n but_o only_o to_o order_v those_o thing_n which_o god_n have_v appoint_v thus_o far_o the_o proposition_n or_o first_o part_n of_o my_o syllogism_n the_o assumption_n follow_v but_o to_o appoint_v &_o use_v the_o ceremony_n as_o we_o do_v be_v not_o to_o order_v in_o comely_a manner_n any_o thing_n pertain_v to_o god_n worship_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o order_n require_v not_o the_o institution_n or_o usage_n of_o any_o new_a thing_n but_o only_o the_o right_a place_n and_o dispose_n of_o thing_n which_o be_v former_o institute_v this_o appear_v 1._o by_o the_o notation_n which_o be_v give_v of_o the_o word_n itself_o which_o both_o in_o greek_n &_o latin_n be_v take_v from_o the_o rank_v of_o soldier_n in_o certain_a bound_n &_o limit_n of_o time_n &_o place_n dicebant_fw-la enim_fw-la militibus_fw-la tribuni_fw-la hactenus_fw-la tibi_fw-la licet_fw-la hic_fw-la consist_v eô_o progrediere_fw-la huc_fw-la revertere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d inde_fw-la ordo_fw-la scalig._n and_o 2_o by_o the_o definition_n which_o be_v give_v thereof_o by_o philosopher_n and_o divine_n tull._n off_o lib._n 1_o eadem_fw-la vis_fw-la videtur_fw-la ordinis_fw-la &_o collocationis_fw-la ordinem_fw-la definiunt_fw-la compositionem_fw-la rerum_fw-la aptis_fw-la &_o accommodatis_fw-la locis_fw-la locum_fw-la autem_fw-la actionis_fw-la opportunitatem_fw-la dicunt_fw-la esse_fw-la temporis_fw-la aug._n the_o civet_n lib._n 15_o cap._n 13_o order_n be_v the_o disposition_n which_o fit_a place_n to_o thing_n equal_a and_o unequal_a id_fw-la est_fw-la when_o thing_n be_v handsome_o rank_v some_o to_o go_v before_o and_o some_o to_o follow_v as_o p._n martyr_n expound_v it_o loc_n come_v cl_o 4_o c._n 5._o 3_o the_o same_o also_o be_v confirm_v by_o our_o divine_n who_o usual_o give_v instance_n of_o order_n do_v infist_n in_o time_n place_n and_o such_o like_a circumstance_n make_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o mystical_a ceremony_n and_o order_n many_o time_n condemn_v the_o one_o and_o allow_v the_o other_o as_o the_o divine_n of_o france_n and_o the_o low_a country_n in_o their_o observation_n on_o the_o harmony_n of_o confession_n sect._n 17_o beza_n ep._n 8._o jun._n in_o bell._n append_v tract_n de_fw-fr cultu_fw-la imaginum_fw-la c._n 7_o n._n 12_o 13_o 14._o 4_o by_o the_o context_n of_o the_o chapter_n viz._n 1_o cor._n 14._o it_o plain_o appear_v that_o order_n be_v oppose_v to_o that_o confusion_n speak_v of_o v_o 33_o and_o therefore_o import_v nothing_o but_o that_o peaceable_a proceed_n whereby_o they_o that_o shall_v speak_v speak_v one_o by_o one_o and_o the_o rest_n attend_v etc._n etc._n v._n 30_o 31._o so_o basil_n expound_v it_o show_v order_n to_o consist_v in_o sort_v of_o person_n some_o to_o this_o and_o some_o to_o that_o according_a to_o their_o office_n and_o in_o determine_v of_o time_n and_o place_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 459._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o p._n 530._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d last_o neither_o luk._n 1_o 8_o neither_o in_o any_o place_n of_o scripture_n do_v the_o word_n order_n import_v any_o more_o than_o have_v be_v say_v as_o for_o comeliness_n that_o be_v nothing_o but_o the_o seemliness_n of_o order_n for_o as_o p._n martyr_n say_v in_o 1_o cor._n 11_o it_o be_v such_o a_o temper_v of_o action_n as_o whereby_o they_o may_v more_o fit_o attain_v their_o end_n otherwhere_o it_o may_v contain_v that_o natural_a or_o civil_a handsomeness_n which_o be_v speak_v of_o ch_z 11_o 13_o as_o it_o do_v ch_n 12_o 23_o and_o so_o include_v all_o that_o which_o be_v ground_v on_o civility_n as_o a_o fair_a cloth_n and_o cup_n for_o the_o communion_n a_o fair_a and_o firm_a vessel_n for_o baptism_n but_o not_o the_o appoint_v of_o new_a mystical_a ceremony_n for_o then_o such_o ceremony_n be_v here_o command_v to_o all_o church_n which_o the_o def._n i_o think_v will_v not_o say_v and_o then_o the_o apostolic_a assembly_n shall_v have_v worship_v god_n uncome_o thus_o we_o have_v both_o proposition_n and_o assumption_n of_o our_o argument_n against_o the_o ceremony_n confirm_v out_o of_o this_o place_n which_o the_o defendant_n choose_v as_o the_o only_a place_n that_o can_v be_v bring_v for_o they_o now_o i_o hope_v we_o may_v add_v the_o conclusion_n therefore_o to_o appoint_v and_o use_v the_o ceremony_n as_o we_o do_v be_v not_o leave_v to_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n i._n e._n it_o be_v unlawful_a sect_n xvii_o concern_v the_o father_n we_o be_v tell_v out_o of_o zanchius_n that_o they_o have_v always_o some_o universal_a ceremony_n as_o certain_a feast_n day_n not_o appoint_v by_o god_n to_o this_o we_o answer_v 1_o if_o this_o always_o be_v take_v in_o the_o large_a extent_n to_o signify_v from_o the_o beginning_n we_o can_v believe_v the_o truth_n of_o this_o assertion_n neither_o can_v the_o defend_v prove_v it_o who_o can_v think_v that_o present_o upon_o the_o apostle_n departure_n their_o disciple_n shall_v presume_v to_o be_v wiser_n then_o their_o master_n 2_o the_o first_o beginning_n of_o these_o feast_n be_v not_o by_o canonical_a imposition_n to_o bind_v man_n unto_o new_a ceremony_n but_o a_o voluntary_a accommodation_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o infirmity_n of_o some_o in_o the_o church_n or_o come_v towards_o it_o this_o appear_v by_o the_o variety_n which_o be_v betwixt_o one_o church_n and_o another_o in_o observe_v of_o they_o and_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o socrates_n allege_v and_o allow_v by_o this_o defend_n himself_o apol._n p._n 2_o lib._n 2_o c._n 9_o 3_o the_o mischief_n that_o come_v in_o by_o these_o observation_n in_o that_o they_o so_o soon_o overshadow_a obscure_a and_o justle_v out_o of_o door_n the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o 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