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as_o they_o execute_v their_o office_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n and_o after_o that_o her_o judgement_n have_v go_v before_o this_o be_v well_o to_o be_v note_v that_o injury_n be_v do_v to_o none_o &_o that_o the_o minister_n exercise_v not_o tyranny_n in_o the_o church_n and_o that_o the_o government_n serve_v not_o their_o affection_n thus_o plain_o master_n viret_n from_o these_o let_v we_o ascend_v to_o the_o very_a first_o worthies_z who_o have_v bring_v we_o the_o light_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o this_o latter_a age_n zuinglius_fw-la and_o luther_n zuinglius_fw-la say_v thus_o explanat_fw-la thus_o zuinglius_fw-la aruc_fw-la 31._o explanat_fw-la quid_fw-la audio_fw-la what_o do_v i_o hear_v can_v a_o bishop_n alone_o excommunicate_a i_o think_v it_o have_v be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n christ_n say_v tell_v the_o church_n do_v the_o bishop_n or_o abbot_n signify_v the_o church_n excommunication_n be_v not_o one_o man_n part_n whosoever_o it_o be_v but_o it_o be_v thâ—_n office_n of_o the_o church_n none_o therefore_o can_v excommunicate_v but_o that_o church_n in_o whâ—_n a_o 〈◊〉_d dwell_v who_o offend_v by_o his_o sin_n the_o right_a of_o pronounce_v against_o he_o be_v in_o tâ—e_v church_n and_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n it_o remain_v then_o that_o christ_n command_v that_o the_o sinner_n be_v show_v to_o the_o church_n which_o weâ—_n call_v a_o parish_n in_o another_o place_n likewise_o 〈◊〉_d likewise_o ad_fw-la valentiuâ—m_fw-la compa_n 〈◊〉_d excommunicatio_fw-la non_fw-la in_o episeoporum_fw-la in_fw-la synodo_fw-la congregatorum_fw-la sed_fw-la in_fw-la untuscutusque_fw-la paroeciae_fw-la potestate_fw-la &_o arbitrio_fw-la sita_fw-la est_fw-la euâ—usâ—_n 〈◊〉_d est_fw-la impudentius_fw-la peccantem_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la communione_fw-la excludere_fw-la sâ—_n christ_n veroa_n quae_fw-la math._n 18._o habentur_fw-la penitùs_fw-la inspiciamus_fw-la hune_v demum_fw-la excmmunicatum_fw-la esse_fw-la deprehendere_fw-la 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in_o a_o synod_n but_o it_o be_v in_o the_o power_n and_o free_a like_n of_o every_o parish_n who_o only_o have_v power_n to_o exclude_v from_o the_o church_n communion_n the_o impudent_a sinner_n if_o we_o look_v thorough_o into_o the_o wordeâ—_n which_o be_v in_o math_n 18._o we_o may_v find_v he_o only_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a who_o the_o common_a consent_n of_o that_o church_n where_o the_o man_n dwell_v have_v shut_v out_o again_o missae_fw-la again_o epichirifis_n de_fw-fr ganone_o missae_fw-la est_fw-la particularis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ea_fw-la cuâ—_n preceptum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la morbidum_fw-la membrum_fw-la resecet_fw-la math._n 18._o quales_fw-la ea_fw-la corinthi_n ad_fw-la quam_fw-la seribit_fw-la paulus_n &_o aliae_fw-la quarum_fw-la se_fw-la curam_fw-la gereâ—â—dicat_fw-la &_o quibus_fw-la se_fw-la pari_fw-la modo_fw-la docere_fw-la asserit_fw-la â—nquiens_fw-la sollicitudo_fw-la omnium_fw-la ecclesiarun_n &_o sicut_fw-la 〈◊〉_d omnibus_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la doceo_fw-la that_o be_v a_o parti_fw-la ulat_z church_n which_o be_v command_v to_o cut_v of_o the_o infect_a member_n math._n 18._o â—_o chap._n â—_o such_o as_o that_o of_o corinth_n be_v to_o which_o paul_n write_v and_o other_o which_o he_o say_v be_v have_v care_n of_o and_o in_o which_o he_o affirm_v that_o he_o teach_v altogether_o alike_o say_v the_o care_n of_o all_o church_n and_o as_o i_o teach_v in_o all_o church_n and_o concern_v call_v to_o the_o ministry_n he_o say_v ecclesiasteâ—_n say_v ecclesiasteâ—_n †_o it_o seem_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o so_o agreeable_a to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o to_o the_o old_a institution_n as_o that_o all_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o the_o faithful_a among_o a_o people_n together_o with_o certain_a learned_a and_o godly_a bishop_n and_o other_o faithful_a man_n have_v skill_n in_o thing_n shall_v choose_v a_o pastor_n and_o after_o again_o let_v therefore_o these_o proud_a bishop_n and_o foolish_a abbot_n go_v shake_v their_o â—ares_n for_o it_o be_v convenient_a that_o the_o right_n of_o the_o election_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o faithful_a instruct_v by_o the_o counsel_n of_o learned_a man_n moreover_o he_o write_v thus_o compar_fw-la thus_o ad_fw-la valent_n compar_fw-la he_o that_o with_o a_o council_n of_o bishop_n shall_v impose_v on_o christian_a people_n any_o law_n or_o observation_n at_o their_o own_o like_n he_o mean_v without_o the_o people_n consent_n hic_fw-la violento_fw-la imperio_fw-la ius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la invadit_fw-la he_o invade_v the_o church_n right_a by_o a_o violent_a command_n and_o therefore_o such_o bishop_n as_o thus_o do_v absque_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la without_o the_o church_n consent_n statuentes_fw-la suâ_fw-la libidine_fw-la 64._o artic._n 64._o decree_a at_o their_o own_o pleasure_n he_o say_v be_v nomine_fw-la tenus_fw-la episcopi_fw-la reverà _fw-la tyranni_fw-la in_o name_n bishop_n but_o in_o deed_n tyrant_n and_o thus_o much_o out_o of_o this_o holy_a man_n of_o god_n and_o noble_a witness_n of_o christ_n master_n zuinglius_fw-la master_n luther_n another_o mighty_a and_o luther_n luther_n principal_a champion_n for_o god_n truth_n at_o the_o same_o time_n write_v a_o special_a treatise_n which_o have_v this_o title_n 374._o title_n tom._n 2._o pag._n 374._o quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la â—us_fw-la &_o potestatem_fw-la habeat_fw-la indicandi_fw-la de_fw-la quavis_fw-la doctrinâ_fw-la item_n vocandi_fw-la ministros_fw-la evangelij_fw-la aut_fw-la si_fw-la fideles_fw-la esse_fw-la desierint_fw-la deponendi_fw-la that_o the_o people_n the_o in_o this_o word_n he_o signify_v the_o congregation_n of_o the_o people_n church_n have_v the_o right_a &_o power_n to_o judge_v of_o any_o doctrine_n also_o of_o call_v the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o if_o they_o cease_v to_o be_v faithful_a to_o depose_v they_o what_o can_v be_v more_o for_o we_o then_o this_o be_v in_o another_o place_n he_o say_v a._n say_v pag._n 369._o b._n chemnic_n examp_n part_n 2.27_o a._n clave_n sunt_fw-la totius_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la the_o key_n belong_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o private_a mass_n he_o speak_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o his_o time_n thus_o spiritus_fw-la sanctus_n vui_fw-la civitats_n plures_fw-la constituit_fw-la episcopos_fw-la vos_fw-fr singuli_fw-la estis_fw-la pluribus_fw-la quâ_fw-la authoritate_fw-la nun_n ipsius_fw-la satanae_n &_o c_o the_o holy_a ghost_n appoint_v to_o one_o city_n many_o bishop_n but_o you_o be_v one_o bishop_n to_o many_o city_n by_o what_o authority_n be_v it_o not_o of_o satan_n himself_o by_o you_o oppose_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n we_o conclude_v therefore_o bold_o that_o you_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n &_o the_o h_n ghost_n decree_n be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o to_o be_v call_v bishop_n but_o rather_o adversary_n and_o destroyer_n both_o of_o bishop_n and_o of_o the_o divine_a decree_n concern_v the_o appoint_v of_o bishop_n again_o in_o his_o book_n against_o the_o false_o name_v order_n of_o bishop_n he_o say_v 322._o say_v pag._n 322._o at_o citra_fw-la iocum_fw-la vides_fw-la palam_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o without_o jest_n thou_o see_v open_o that_o the_o apostle_n paul_n call_v only_o they_o bishop_n which_o do_v preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o minister_n sacrament_n to_o the_o people_n as_o in_o our_o time_n the_o parish_n minister_n and_o preacher_n do_v therefore_o i_o believe_v without_o doubt_n that_o they_o by_o fight_n possess_v the_o title_n and_o name_n of_o bishop_n and_o in_o another_o treatise_n b._n treatise_n de_fw-fr ministâ—_n eccles_n instituendâ—_n pag._n 365._o b._n donabo_fw-la hoc_fw-la ordmibus_fw-la papisticis_fw-la quod_fw-la solius_fw-la episcopi_fw-la autoritate_fw-la instituuntur_fw-la quos_fw-la vocant_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la consensu_fw-la aut_fw-la suffragio_fw-la populi_fw-la cvi_fw-la preficiendi_fw-la sunt_fw-la neque_fw-la requisito_fw-la nec_fw-la obtento_fw-it cvius_fw-la tamen_fw-la cum_fw-la sint_fw-la populus_fw-la dei_fw-la maximè_fw-la intererat_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la sine_fw-la suffragijs_fw-la suis_fw-la quisquam_fw-la eye_v imponeretur_fw-la i_o will_v yield_v this_o say_v he_o to_o the_o popish_a order_n that_o priest_n as_o they_o call_v they_o be_v institute_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n alone_o the_o consent_n and_o voice_n give_v of_o the_o people_n over_o who_o they_o be_v to_o be_v set_v neither_o seek_v nor_o obtâ—yned_v who_o chief_a right_n nevertheless_o it_o be_v see_v they_o be_v god_n people_n that_o not_o any_o one_o shall_v be_v set_v over_o they_o without_o their_o voycegiving_a thus_o teach_v these_o pillar_n of_o the_o gospel_n zuinglius_fw-la and_o luther_n to_o who_o we_o will_v add_v our_o two_o great_a light_n that_o shine_v sometime_o in_o england_n master_n bucer_n and_o p._n martyr_n bucer_n bucer_n bucer_n have_v these_o word_n â—9_n word_n in_o math_n 16._o â—9_n haec_fw-la potestas_fw-la penes_fw-la omnem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la est_fw-la authoritas_fw-la modo_fw-la ministerij_fw-la penes_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la &_o episcopos_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la roma_fw-la olim_fw-la potestas_fw-la popul_n fuit_fw-la authoritas_fw-la senatus_n this_o power_n &_o sway_v of_o the_o government_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o the_o authority_n only_o of_o ministration_n thereof_o be_v in_o the_o presbyter_n and_o bishop_n so_o as_o in_o old_a time_n at_o rome_n the_o power_n be_v in_o the_o people_n but_o the_o authority_n or_o direction_n be_v in_o the_o senat._n in_o a_o other_o place_n he_o say_v â—_o say_v de_fw-fr regno_fw-la chrâ—â—â—_n 1._o â—_o the_o apostle_n accuse_v the_o corinthians_n for_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n do_v not_o cast_v out_o of_o their_o company_n the_o incestuous_a person_n p._n martyr_n say_v martyr_n 7._o p_o martyr_n 16.15_o martyr_n in_o â—_o cor._n 16.15_o fatemur_fw-la clave_n ecclesia_fw-la universae_fw-la datas_fw-la we_o confess_v the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n by_o the_o key_n he_o mean_v government_n and_o ecclesiastical_a power_n also_o he_o say_v 3._o say_v vers_fw-la 3._o it_o be_v no_o marvel_n that_o it_o be_v the_o church_n right_a to_o choose_v minister_n see_v we_o see_v the_o civil_a law_n do_v give_v power_n to_o town_n to_o choose_v their_o physician_n and_o schoolmaster_n at_o their_o own_o like_n in_o a_o other_o place_n thus_o he_o say_v 5.11_o say_v in_o cap._n 5.11_o quoniam_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la de_fw-la negotijs_fw-la gravioribus_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la maximi_fw-la momenti_fw-la ad_fw-la plebem_fw-la â—efertur_fw-la ut_fw-la patet_fw-la in_fw-la act_v apostolicis_fw-la ideò_fw-la politâ—ae_fw-la rationem_fw-la habet_fw-la because_o in_o the_o church_n matter_n of_o weight_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o people_n to_o determine_v as_o it_o be_v manifest_a in_o the_o acâ—es_n therefore_o the_o church_n have_v a_o respect_n of_o the_o popular_a government_n or_o democracie_n for_o so_o p._n martyr_n here_o mean_v by_o politia_n as_o we_o may_v see_v if_o we_o look_v in_o the_o place_n also_o namely_o of_o excommunication_n he_o say_v consentiente_fw-la universa_fw-la eccsesia_n excommunicetur_fw-la hoc_fw-la debet_fw-la ist_fw-mi ad_fw-la iudicium_fw-la antecedere_fw-la let_v excommunication_n be_v with_o the_o consent_n of_o
people_n of_o every_o church_n always_o aught_o to_o have_v by_o christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n ordinance_n as_o 3.4.5_o as_o pag._n 19_o &_o chap._n 3.4.5_o before_o we_o have_v see_v nay_o to_o come_v near_o no_o proper_a and_o perfect_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a ever_o do_v or_o do_v admit_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n universal_o and_o always_o it_o be_v so_o &_o indeed_o it_o can_v not_o be_v otherwise_o for_o where_o each_o ordinary_a congregation_n have_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n there_o certain_o each_o congregation_n be_v a_o entire_a and_o independent_a body_n politic_a spiritual_a and_o be_v endue_v with_o power_n in_o itself_o immediate_o under_o christ_n and_o so_o every_o of_o they_o be_v true_a &_o proper_a church_n so_o that_o these_o congregation_n admit_v not_o where_o they_o be_v any_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a neither_o do_v the_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a admit_v entire_a and_o independent_a ordinary_a congregation_n which_o as_o i_o say_v have_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n they_o be_v indeed_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d such_o as_o 23.25_o as_o reas._o for_o 〈◊〉_d form_n pag._n 23.25_o can_v stand_v together_o possible_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v likewise_o that_o which_o heretofore_o 8â—_n heretofore_o ibid_fw-la pag._n 8â—_n i_o have_v affirm_v and_o so_o do_v still_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n there_o be_v not_o any_o diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a to_o be_v find_v which_o point_n though_o i_o have_v in_o my_o declaration_n prove_v it_o by_o this_o and_o 6._o other_o reason_n yet_o i_o will_v here_o draw_v it_o into_o this_o syllogism_n again_o no_o church_n hold_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n with_o just_a and_o decent_a order_n be_v diocesan_n or_o large_a every_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n hold_v the_o people_n free_a 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in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o five_o chap._n as_o also_o i_o touch_v it_o in_o my_o declaration_n pag._n 24.25_o but_o let_v it_o be_v remember_v that_o here_o i_o speak_v precise_o of_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a there_o be_v therefore_o necessary_o a_o distinction_n to_o be_v make_v of_o diocesan_n church_n there_o be_v proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a &_o there_o be_v improper_a the_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a be_v where_o the_o people_n have_v no_o power_n free_o to_o consent_v in_o the_o affair_n of_o their_o ordinary_a church_n government_n the_o improper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a be_v where_o although_o there_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o diocesan_n or_o large_a consociation_n of_o many_o ordinary_a congregation_n in_o spiritual_a government_n under_o one_o general_a presidencie_n or_o superiority_n yet_o the_o ordinary_a congregation_n have_v their_o free_a consent_n at_o least_o they_o have_v nothing_o by_o their_o spiritual_a 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less_o that_o be_v the_o ancient_a have_v less_o the_o late_a for_o the_o most_o part_n always_o have_v their_o power_n great_a and_o great_a 1._o ad_fw-la â—vagr_n &_o in_o tit._n 1._o for_o of_o these_o jerome_n say_v most_o true_o both_o that_o their_o matoritie_n over_o the_o presbyter_n of_o congregation_n be_v by_o humane_a ordinance_n and_o also_o that_o it_o come_v in_o &_o grow_v great_a paâ—latim_fw-la by_o little_a and_o little_a that_o be_v by_o degree_n albeit_o i_o say_v therefore_o that_o these_o diocesan_n bishop_n be_v of_o divers_a kind_n &_o sort_n yet_o the_o first_o of_o they_o neither_o be_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n neither_o be_v they_o immediate_o after_o the_o apostle_n contrariwise_o d._n downame_n affirm_v that_o mark_n the_o evangelist_n ordain_v in_o alexandria_n a_o diocesan_n church_n consist_v of_o many_o ordinary_a congregation_n which_o he_o think_v to_o prove_v by_o some_o word_n of_o 2.15_o of_o euseb_n 2.15_o eusebius_n who_o say_v mark_v first_o 2.124_o first_o d._n down_n def._n 2.124_o constitute_v church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o alexandria_n itself_o as_o he_o false_o translate_v it_o i_o say_v this_o he_o false_o translate_v as_o 3.25.16_o as_o 3.137_o &_o 3.25.16_o doct._n douâ—_n also_o do_v before_o he_o whereupon_o the_o whole_a ground_n of_o their_o error_n do_v rest_n â—â—_o def_n pag._n 17_o â—â—_o which_o their_o falsification_n i_o shall_v by_o god_n help_n show_v plain_o out_o of_o eusebius_n himself_o even_o in_o this_o very_a place_n the_o preposition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o here_o signify_v in_o a_o place_n as_o they_o untrue_o imagine_v but_o it_o signifi_v to_o a_o place_n and_o so_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v translate_v in_o latin_a we_o shall_v say_v ad_fw-la alexandriaâ—_n ipsam_fw-la or_o usque_fw-la ad_fw-la that_o be_v to_o alexandria_n or_o unto_o alexandria_n itself_o this_o be_v eusebius_n true_a meaning_n for_o he_o will_v show_v that_o mark_n be_v the_o first_o that_o constitute_v church_n in_o the_o country_n of_o egypt_n and_o withal_o that_o he_o do_v so_o even_o unto_o the_o chief_a city_n thereof_o viz._n alexandria_n and_o this_o be_v all_o that_o he_o mean_v here_o twice_o in_o this_o very_a place_n beside_o eusebius_n use_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o this_o same_o construction_n and_o sense_n both_o immediate_o before_o the_o word_n in_o question_n and_o immediate_o after_o before_o thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o egypt_n or_o unto_o egypt_n after_o thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o rome_n or_o unto_o rome_n not_o in_o rome_n nor_o in_o egypt_n wherefore_o so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signifi_v likewise_o in_o this_o place_n which_o we_o have_v in_o hand_n see_v it_o run_v in_o one_o context_v together_o with_o the_o former_a and_o be_v all_o one_o manner_n of_o phrase_n beside_o eusebius_n straight_o after_o allege_v philo_n concern_v this_o same_o people_n who_o mark_v convert_v say_v that_o he_o speak_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o church_n about_o in_o the_o country_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d about_o alexandria_n not_o in_o alexandria_n last_o of_o all_o eusebius_n utter_v this_o as_o he_o do_v the_o next_o forego_n clause_n likewise_o with_o this_o term_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o say_v or_o some_o report_n by_o which_o and_o the_o like_a term_n he_o use_v to_o relate_v uncertain_a and_o apocryphal_a thing_n yea_o sometime_o fabulous_a and_o untrue_a for_o eusebius_n be_v not_o precise_a in_o set_v down_o all_o his_o matter_n chief_o those_o which_o he_o have_v only_o upon_o rumour_n and_o report_n and_o where_o he_o seem_v to_o require_v credit_n in_o deed_n he_o be_v not_o spare_v to_o name_v his_o author_n as_o egesippus_fw-la clemens_n dionysius_n and_o such_o other_o wherefore_o divers_a way_n d._n downame_n presumptuous_a assertion_n and_o which_o he_o do_v so_o boast_v of_o that_o mark_v institute_v many_o church_n in_o alexandria_n want_v
spiritual_a or_o sole_a government_n ecclesiastical_a yea_o though_o over_o but_o one_o congregation_n much_o more_o he_o who_o exercise_v such_o spiritual_a lordship_n over_o a_o great_a many_o congregation_n also_o sense_n what_o be_v sole_a authority_n spiritual_a in_o our_o sense_n sole_a authority_n spiritual_a and_o sole_a government_n ecclesiastical_a we_o call_v that_o which_o be_v exercise_v without_o the_o christian_a people_n free_a consent_n d._n downame_n labour_v with_o divers_a vain_a shift_n to_o defend_v the_o english_a l._n bishop_n herein_o he_o can_v not_o abide_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v say_v of_o they_o that_o they_o exercise_v 1.58.47.43_o exercise_v def._n 1.58.47.43_o sole_a authority_n or_o sole_a government_n yea_o in_o many_o place_n he_o 118.11â—.126.142_n he_o def_n 3_o 118.11â—.126.142_n show_v indignation_n that_o such_o wrong_n shall_v be_v do_v they_o in_o be_v so_o report_v of_o but_o it_o be_v strange_a be_v they_o ashamed_a to_o hear_v of_o that_o which_o they_o cease_v not_o to_o practice_v and_o maintain_v every_o day_n and_o that_o in_o the_o sight_n of_o the_o world_n yea_o each_o of_o they_o over_o divers_a hundred_o of_o congregation_n for_o the_o people_n with_o we_o no_o where_n enjoy_v any_o free_a consent_n but_o the_o d._n say_v 1.43.44_o say_v def._n 1.43.44_o the_o bishop_n have_v the_o archbishop_n above_o he_o yea_o but_o who_o be_v above_o our_o 2._o archbishop_n spiritual_o no_o body_n again_o he_o say_v provincial_n synod_n be_v above_o the_o bishop_n idle_o speak_v be_v the_o diocesan_n synod_n above_o their_o own_o bishop_n or_o be_v the_o provincial_n synod_n above_o their_o archbishop_n sure_o no_o more_o than_o the_o universal_a council_n be_v above_o the_o pope_n which_o be_v clean_a contrary_n now_o this_o be_v it_o which_o he_o shall_v have_v affirm_v buthe_n dare_v not_o he_o shift_v further_a say_v 44._o say_v pag._n 44._o do_v we_o not_o all_o with_o one_o consent_n acknowledge_v the_o king_n majesty_n to_o have_v the_o supreme_a authority_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a yea_o very_o we_o do_v but_o that_o be_v civil_o as_o â—â—_o as_o reas._o for_o ref_o p._n 62._o â—â—_o elsewhere_a i_o have_v show_v he_o have_v no_o authority_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a spiritual_o that_o be_v his_o authority_n proper_o make_v no_o church_n minister_n nor_o excommunicate_v any_o person_n which_o i_o suppose_v yourselves_o do_v hold_v even_o as_o we_o do_v but_o this_o be_v the_o point_n in_o england_n the_o archb._n be_v spiritual_o supreme_a or_o have_v supreme_a authority_n spiritual_a in_o his_o province_n i_o say_v thus_o he_o be_v supreme_a &_o sole_a viz._n spiritual_o wherefore_o the_o doct._n elenchi_fw-la ignorantia_fw-la elenchi_fw-la gross_o sophisticate_v in_o shift_v from_o the_o poâ—â—t_n in_o hand_n to_o a_o other_o matter_n where_o he_o speak_v of_o 43_o of_o def._n 1._o p._n 43_o chancellor_n adjoin_v to_o the_o bishop_n and_o of_o presbyter_n consent_v with_o he_o &_o that_o 42._o that_o pag._n 42._o presbyter_n have_v power_n to_o rule_v their_o flock_n in_o public_a ministry_n and_o in_o private_a attendance_n &_o that_o some_o of_o they_o have_v voice_n in_o synod_n etc._n etc._n i_o wot_v not_o what_o all_o this_o be_v sure_o i_o be_o it_o be_v as_o idle_a as_o the_o rest_n for_o so_o much_o at_o least_o be_v see_v in_o the_o popish_a church_n where_o yet_o be_v find_v spiritual_a lordship_n &_o sole_a government_n in_o their_o bishop_n yea_o oppression_n violence_n &_o tyranny_n also_o over_o the_o people_n conscience_n as_o we_o well_o know_v so_o that_o the_o 43._o the_o pag._n 43._o supreme_a and_o loud_a by_o and_o 47._o and_o pag._n 47._o the_o plain_o which_o he_o give_v to_o we_o he_o ought_v to_o take_v to_o himself_o another_o shift_n of_o the_o doct._n be_v where_o because_o the_o hebrew_n adoni_n the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o latin_a dominus_fw-la may_v be_v give_v to_o bishop_n therefore_o 3.147_o therefore_o def._n 3.147_o he_o will_v conclude_v that_o in_o english_a they_o may_v be_v call_v lord_n d._n bilson_n reason_v 59_o reason_v perp_n gov_fw-mi pag._n 58._o 59_o so_o likewise_o and_o that_o very_o large_o he_o will_v prove_v the_o same_o also_o from_o the_o dutch_a term_n here_o &_o from_o the_o french_a monsieur_n etc._n etc._n but_o i_o deny_v this_o reason_n absolute_o for_o herein_o there_o be_v no_o consequence_n our_o english_a term_n lord_n and_o lordship_n do_v always_o imply_v sole_a government_n but_o none_o of_o those_o foreign_a term_n do_v so_o always_o wherefore_o such_o reason_n be_v equivocate_a also_o 1.24_o also_o joh._n 13.13_o &_o 1_o cor._n 8.6_o &_o 12.5_o &_o 2._o cor._n 1.24_o again_o christ_n only_o be_v our_o lord_n in_o respect_n of_o spiritual_a lordship_n he_o only_o be_v to_o be_v call_v a_o spiritual_a lord_n but_o our_o bishop_n be_v lord_n and_o be_v so_o call_v with_o we_o in_o respect_n as_o they_o be_v spiritual_a lord_n as_o the_o doctor_n 3.150_o doctor_n def._n 3.150_o observe_v well_o wherefore_o our_o bishop_n lordship_n be_v unlawful_a and_o derogatory_n to_o christ_n doct._n bilson_n say_v further_a 62._o further_a perp._n gov_n pag._n 62._o if_o we_o stick_v at_o title_n christ_n call_v they_o go_n lo_o how_o nothing_o satisfy_v these_o man_n will_v he_o have_v bishop_n call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o god_n also_o but_o i_o will_v know_v of_o he_o where_o do_v christ_n call_v they_o god_n sure_o it_o be_v but_o his_o fancy_n they_o be_v in_o deed_n so_o call_v no_o where_o d._n downame_n press_v that_o bishop_n be_v call_v 3.146.150_o call_v def._n 3.146.150_o angel_n which_o be_v a_o more_o honour_n able_a title_n than_o lord_n and_o therefore_o that_o bishop_n may_v be_v call_v lord_n i_o deny_v that_o the_o name_n angel_n be_v so_o honourable_a a_o title_n as_o a_o spiritual_a lord_n which_o be_v give_v to_o our_o bishop_n this_o be_v proper_a to_o christ_n only_o as_o before_o be_v say_v the_o name_n angel_n be_v not_o and_o so_o his_o reason_n be_v false_a again_o though_o the_o name_n angel_n be_v give_v to_o bishop_n sometime_o and_o in_o one_o respect_n yet_o it_o be_v very_o false_a to_o say_v they_o may_v lawful_o be_v style_v and_o call_v by_o the_o daily_a appellation_n of_o angel_n or_o that_o they_o may_v ordinary_o use_v that_o title_n as_o they_o do_v the_o title_n &_o name_n of_o lord_n again_o the_o name_n of_o lord_n be_v give_v they_o as_o import_v their_o sole_a government_n as_o before_o be_v say_v but_o the_o name_n angel_n import_v not_o so_o much_o neither_o be_v it_o give_v to_o any_o creature_n in_o such_o respect_n therefore_o from_o the_o name_n of_o angel_n the_o title_n of_o lord_n follow_v not_o indeed_o the_o name_n of_o angel_n be_v give_v to_o bishop_n because_o they_o be_v god_n messenger_n to_o show_v we_o his_o will_n not_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o government_n at_o all_o though_o the_o doct._n presume_v so_o to_o say_v without_o proof_n without_o a_o allegory_n be_v no_o proof_n proof_n last_o he_o know_v that_o all_o preacher_n be_v in_o the_o word_n call_v angel_n or_o messenger_n but_o for_o all_o preacher_n to_o be_v call_v in_o english_a lord_n or_o your_o lordship_n sure_o it_o will_v be_v a_o very_a arrogant_a thing_n and_o though_o he_o 1.34.46_o he_o def._n 1.34.46_o allege_v that_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n in_o rev._n 2.1_o be_v one_o and_o but_o one_o before_o many_o minister_n yet_o neither_o do_v this_o import_n any_o lordship_n in_o he_o either_o in_o name_n or_o practice_v neither_o be_v this_o precedence_n or_o praeeminence_n signify_v by_o the_o word_n angel_n but_o it_o be_v gather_v by_o compare_v this_o word_n with_o the_o know_a circumstance_n of_o those_o time_n further_o he_o allege_v that_o 3.152_o that_o def._n 3.152_o prince_n be_v call_v pastor_n and_o for_o the_o same_o cause_n be_v lord_n wherein_o there_o be_v no_o truth_n nor_o indeed_o any_o good_a sense_n the_o like_a be_v that_o where_o he_o add_v the_o title_n of_o father_n be_v as_o great_a as_o lord._n nay_o the_o name_n of_o father_n be_v amiable_a but_o lord_n may_v and_o also_o they_o use_v to_o force_v and_o compel_v neither_o do_v the_o pope_n at_o first_o take_v the_o name_n of_o father_n peculiarly_a to_o himself_o to_o note_v thereby_o any_o lordship_n as_o his_o due_n but_o to_o deceive_v the_o world_n by_o his_o pretend_a love_n over_o all_o wherein_o he_o desire_v to_o seem_v a_o common_a father_n in_o another_o 4.71.72_o another_o def._n 4.71.72_o place_n he_o teach_v that_o bishop_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v call_v apostle_n upon_o which_o ground_n he_o 15â—_n he_o def._n 3_o 15â—_n will_v conclude_v that_o therefore_o the_o name_n of_o lord_n be_v lawful_a for_o they_o i_o answer_v the_o name_n of_o apostle_n and_o also_o of_o bishop_n may_v be_v use_v sometime_o
and_o kingdom_n be_v not_o absolute_a and_o perfect_a towards_o we_o but_o be_v diminish_v and_o change_v now_o in_o respect_n as_o they_o be_v to_o the_o jew_n of_o old_a and_o the_o very_a form_n of_o christ_n say_a visible_a church_n be_v changeable_a by_o man_n and_o may_v be_v institute_v first_o by_o man_n whence_o it_o also_o follow_v that_o a_o noble_a part_n of_o christ_n divine_a honour_n &_o glory_n may_v be_v by_o man_n diminish_v and_o take_v from_o he_o and_o may_v lawful_o be_v attribute_v to_o man_n every_o one_o of_o these_o consequent_n be_v certain_a neither_o can_v any_o of_o they_o be_v deny_v nor_o shift_v off_o by_o our_o adversary_n who_o reject_v the_o say_a opinion_n of_o the_o people_n necessary_a consent_n in_o the_o church_n government_n now_o this_o i_o earnest_o desire_v all_o man_n to_o take_v notice_n of_o that_o they_o may_v see_v what_o it_o be_v that_o have_v move_v i_o and_o still_o do_v to_o embrace_v the_o opinion_n contrary_a to_o the_o course_n 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