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A45277 A Christian vindication of truth against errour concerning these controversies, 1. Of sinners prayers, 2. Of priests marriage, 3. Of purgatory, 4. Of the second commandment and images, 5. Of praying to saints and angels, 6. Of justification by faith, 7. Of Christs new testament or covenant / by Edw. Hide ... Hyde, Edward, 1607-1659. 1659 (1659) Wing H3864; ESTC R37927 226,933 558

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