is forbid to al Christian magistrates both spiritual and temporal and not anie iust rule superioritie or regimēt ouer others to ether kind Or if he had considered that feeding conteineth not onelie preaching but also al kind of iust meanes and holie endeuours for the propagation of the Gospel and mens saluation according to the difference of times persons and places as excommunication and other ecclesiastical censures and corrections which thinges at least perteyning to the spiritual powers directlie our aduersaries should admit and humblie obey and if they so would doe they should neuer need to feare ether the Popes or other mens swordes wherof they make so much impertinent brable Marry they pretend some zeale in the matter affirming that the Popes of Rome The Libellers Zeale for limitation of the Popes svvord and curse before they had thes great temporal states and folowed Christ and the Apostles in humilitie dilated the limites of Christes Church and the faith more in one hundreth yeares then the later Popes haue done with their swordes curses in fiue hundreth yeares To which we say that they seeme now not onelie desirous to haue his tēporal power sword taken from him as they pretended by their former speeches and allegatiōs but also his spiritual weapon and exercise of discipline towardes offendours called here by the Libeller his Curse Which no doubt they vsed of olde vpon such as were subiect to the Church and their regiment no lesse then the Popes doe now and some what more though they could not then before Kinges were conuerted to the faith vse anie discipline or authoritie ouer them much lesse anie humane forces for that they had not then such worldlie preeminence as was due to their high calling in Christ as afterward God hath endewed them withal but were for some hundreth yeares persecuted and put to death by the enimies of Christs faith and glorie In which state it seemeth the aduersaries would haue them stil being miscōtent that they haue ether forces to fight against the Turke or to pursue Heretiques that wil not obey their spiritual sentence or rodde of Excommunication As for conuersion of peoples or nations to the faith Hovv necessarie tēporal habilities are to the Pope whether ther were more brought to Christ ī thos daies and in the poorer worldlie conditiō of Popes then afterward in the dayes of their wealth is not to the purpose to dispute but whether this state of thīges be more agreable to the time present and for the conseruation of Princes and people alredie conuerted or rather the first poore Apostolical condition tha◠is to be considered of wise men Though the Libeller shal hardlie proue that moe nations haue bene wholie conuerted in the time of the Popes pouertie and aduersitie then afterward in their greatnes This is sure that our owne English people the most part of Germans Polackers and other northern Countries Conuersions vvrought by later Popes besides the inhabitants of the East and west Indians and other extreme partes of the world haue speciallie bene ether first conuerted or recouered since by the holie trauailes of thes later Popes And further we may be bold to say that the Pope onelie by the powers temporal and spiritual that God hath giuen him doth more at this day for cōuersion and gaining of Panimes Turkes Ievves Mores Heretiques Schismatiques and other Infidels then al the Protestants put together in the world besids other infinite immortal actes of charitie which he doth in manie partes of Christendome which he could neuer doe if he had not such temporal habilities as therunto and to the vpholding of his high and pearles dignitie aboue al particular Prelates and Princes were requisite But of the prerogatiue of the spiritual power as wel in this highe Priest who is subiect to none in earth as in other Prelates of particular prouinces who are often subiect to other Princes we haue said inough to represse the pernicious flatterie of the Libeller and the like that would exempt euerie secular person from al submission and obedience to their Pastours Onelie leauing to al the wise of our Countrie thes few lines of S. Ambrose A most excellēt determination of S. Ambrose about spiritual superioritie Epist 33. for a warning and a watch-word in this cause and for the end in maner of al our dispute Mandatur saith he Trade Basilicam Respondeo Nec mihi fas est tradere nec tibi accipere Imperator expedit Domum priuati nullo potes iure temerare domum Dei existimas auferendam Allegatur Imperatori licere omnia ipsius esse vniuersa Noli te grauare Imperator vt putes te in ea quae diuina sunt imperiale aliquod ius habere Noli te extollere sed si vis diutius imperare esto Deo subditus scriptum est Quae Dei Deo quae Caesaris Caesari ad Imperatorem palatia pertinent ad sacerdotem Ecclesiae publicorum tibi moeniorum ius commissum est non sacrorum In English The commaundement was this Giue vp the Church I answere that it is nether lauful for me to deliuer it nor expedient for the O Emperour to receaue it Thou canst by no right violate anie priuate mans house and thinkest thou the house of God may be taken away But they say the Emperour may doe what he list and that al are his I answere O Emperour be not so much abused as to thinke that thou hast anie Emperial right in diuine matters Extol not thy self but if thow list hold thine empire long be subiect to God for it is written Marc. 17. Luc. 25. The thinges that are Gods to God and that are Cesars to Cesar The palaces perteine to the Emperour the Churches to the Priest The charge of the common wals of the Citie are committed to thee and not the charge of sacred thinges So he spake to Valentinian the Emperour And so we say to our Princesse and to al such as haue charge vnder her Highnes of our Countrie that this Libeller and who els soeuer by lothsome and base flatterie extolling her Regalitie and secular Soueraintie aboue Priesthood and the Apostolique authoritie therby exempting her from al obedience and subiection to Christes Church and to thos whom the holie Ghost hath placed ouer the same Church in earth doe shamefullie abuse them to their and the Realmes destruction except God be merciful aboue our merites We tel them plainlie and sincerlie with the said glorious Doctor and Saint and therupon wil pledge our liues in this world and our soules euerlastinglie and that without detracting any obedience due to her temporal soueraintie in spiritual matters that her Maiesty hath no charge authoritie or power ouer the Church or ecclesiastical affaires no more then the poorest soule in her Realme nor so much nether til she be a member obedient child of the Church and Sea Apostolique With this onelie exception that for the height of her dignitie and by
rather thral obnoxious then to submit thē selues to the sweet yoke of Christs kingdome and Priesthood or to concurre in happie vnitie with such as Christ and the Holie-ghost haue placed ouer the Church for the guiding of her people to saluation and that also in worldlie peace and tranquilitie as much as in them lieth which is their cheefe honor and greatest guarde that may be both to Prince people as the contrarie motion of wicked men to sowe debate betwene Prīces Pastors is surely more vnnatural thē to put discord betwixt the bodie the soule ī the regimēt of a mās persō A fit similitude wherī as the whole frame is best gouerned preserued when the flesh can be cōtented to be ruled by the spirite so no doubt the tēporal power consisteth most safelie endureth longest when it hath good correspondence and subordination to the spiritual which seeketh euer al aduauncement and safetie to the secular Powers appointed by God for the worldlie weale of their subiects Which terrene felicitie necessarie for the cleargie also in this life no lesse then for others is alwaies by the state Ecclesiastical most zealouslie mainteined against the disturbers of peace concord and due obedience to superiours And therfore as the Church of God and namelie the Sea Apostolique hath receiued in respect of the honor due to Christ his principal Apostle S. Peter infinite exaltation by the Christian kinges of al nations so on th' other side the Popes of al ages haue sought by al meanes possible to aduaunce to honor glorie and encrease Christian kinges and states not onelie spirituallie which is their first cheefe care but also temporallie wherof euerie nation Christianed hath had sufficient proofe But to say nothing of Catholique Kinges or Countries which gladlie acknowledge the benefite and wil auouch the right and iust title of anie their dominions Dominions holden by the Popes meanes receiued of the sea Apostolique or adiudged theirs by the same for though the Libeller would make them weene it were a base and perilous matter to stand at the Popes courtesie in such things yet he can persuade none of them that they hould anie peece of their states by euil conscience which is fallen vnto them that way by the Popes warrant nor is he so eloquent as to make them yeeld vp the same to their old owners againe the states and Princes Protestantes must ether acknowledge the benefite and iust possession of diuers high dignities titles and crounes receiued by the said sea of S. Peter or els they be neither kind nor wise Is not the Emperial dignitie the highest humane preeminence that can be in this world And can the German protestants denie but that they hould or had that of the Pope The Empire from the Pope For where some wrangle that it came by election of the people of Rome that is most false contrarie to al histories and reason Dare they denie the Pope to haue had lauful power to translate th' empire out of Greece or wil they say their Emperour that now is and al other his predecessors since Charles the great were vsurpers as they should be if the order or disposition of the holie Sea were not lauful No protestant nor other man in his wit wil so say and speciallie no Alman to the glorie of whos nation this thing so much perteineth This nation therfore hath no cause to complaine of the high spiritual authoritie by which it self hath bene an hundreth times more aduaunced then hindred or diminished As Likewise th' order of the Election and which al men esteeme for a title of most high dignitie the Electorship it self was giuen to certaine Princes of Germanie by Gregorie the fift who as the Magdeburge historians them selues speake being a German and desirous to adorne his natiue Countrie with some excellent honor Cent. 10. Cap. 10. deuised that the election of the king which after his coronation by the Pope should also be called Imperator and Augustus should onelie pertaine to the Germans Now let the Heretiques speake and yeeld ther reason who tooke the matter so much in dougē thes last years past that the Pope should intermedle with the displacing of the Elector of Colen The fond reasoning of Heretiques about the Popes deposing of the late Bishop of Colen What A Pope to depose an Elector said they As though a Pope might not depriue an vnworthie Apostata Bishop of his Sea and Electorship who first created and gaue vnto that nation and to that Sea both Elector and Electoral dignitie it self Let them tel vs why his authoritie is not as great in depriuing for iust cause as his power was sufficient to establish that honor in Germanie And Let the Libeller that accompteth it so vnworthie a thing that some Popes haue giuen censure vpon the Princes of the holie Empire be demaunded who established that high state in that countrie and whether he that had power to doe that can want anie warrant to depriue an euil or wicked person of the Empire And in breefe let him be asked whether that noble nation haue not receaued more dignitie and profit temporal then hurt and hinderance by that Papal power ouer kingdomes which this man in his seditious pride so much abhorreth But to come to that which we the Libeller best of al doe knowe and toucheth vs English more neare at home and may be an instruction and proofe of the cause in hand to other strangers abrode Surely if the people of our Country knew ther owne good and were grateful as they were wont to be for now this brutish Heresy hath made them without affection as S. Paul speaketh of such vnnatural Sectaries they would acknowledge that as to the Sea Apostolique England greatly indebted to the sea Apostolique they owe their first faith and Christianity not only for conuerting the Britons who were the ancient inhabitants of the Iland but also the English them selues afterward and that in very memorable sort reconciling them eftsons againe to holy Church after their relapse and endowing their Princes and Prelats with such singular prerogatiues as no particular Church or Commō welth ī the world with the good grace of al other Christian states be it spoken had greater or more honorable so would they ī like maner besides thes spiritual fauors confesse them selues indebted for the temporal aduauncement of our Princes receiued from the same Sea Apostolique seeing the regiment and Lordship of Ireland was by the Popes only gift bestowed vpon our Souerains in the time of Pope Adrian the fourth and K. Henry the second 400. years agone Irland the Popes gift vnto England they hauing no other title therunto in the world but by this graunt of the Sea Apostolique Which title notwithstanding we doubt not but that our English Protestantes wil accompt sufficient euen vnto this day and K. Henrie th' eight being fallen from the Church and making him self of
a member the Head therof in his Realme went forward vpon this title and of his owne new Papal authoritie from the Lord of Ireland made and called him self the King therof Which stile was afterward as we take it by due authoritie of the Pope confirmed to Q. Marie So desirous hath bene alwaies the holie Sea of Rome to encrease our Princes with al due honor to enlarge their dominions None of which titles prerogatiues authorities or dignities though receiued onely or principallie by the Popes fauour or gift any one of our kinges of what Religion so euer was yet so wilful to reiect or let goe or yet so nise in Faith as to make scruple of conscience to receaue or retaine as laufullie possessed what so euer they haue obteined that way though vngratful persons acknowledge no benefite therin And not onely large kingdomes so obteined Al Princes contented to receaue hold vse titles of honor and dignitie from the Pope Princes are contented to kepe without scruple but hould also al other titles of honour annexed by his Holines to their Regal dignities vpon what cause soeuer as is to be seene in sondry great and mighty Monarches of Christendome vpon whom diuers high titles haue bene bestowed by the sea Apostolique for their most Christian and Heroical endeuours for the Church and their zeale against Heretiques and Infidels as Catholique in Spaine most Christian in France and such like els wher and in our Country a stile no lesse honourable thē the former that is Defendour of the Faith The stile of Defendour of the faith which stile and title al the Protestants in the world doe knowe that it was giuen by Pope Leo the tenth to K. Henrie th' eight for his defense of the Catholique Romane faith by writing yet exstant vnder his owne hand against Martin Luther And albeit the cause for which it was giuen be now quite altered and the Popes authoritie from which it was receaued extremely impugned yet the right therof coming onely from that authoritie now accompted so vnlauful none of our kings wil leaue or wil renounce the same as indeed we wish they should not for that it notablie putteth them in mind what Church and Faith it is that they are bound to defend and against what kind of men they beare the sword which God hath put into their hand The particuler benefites receaued from this Pope We might adde to this the singular and incomparable fauors and daylie benefits done by his Holines that now is to our nation aboue al his predecessors assuredly excepting S. Gregorie the great our first Apostle Who 's diuine grace and example of Charitie he so zealouslie doth imitate towards vs not onelie for the saluation of the whole deceiued Countrie but for the particular releefe of manie hundrethes of al sortes ages and sexes that are driuen by violence of cruel persecution into diuers Catholique Prouinces and are forced to leaue their Countrie and what so euer is deare vnto them to learne that Faith in which al their forefathers so honorablie liued and died By which his rare benefits his happie name as Gregories the first must needes be in English memories immortal maugré this ingratful Heresie to which we hope he shal once be the bane The Charitie of Gregorie the first tovvardes Of the said Gregorie the great his more then common loue of our soules we haue besides other Apostolical charitie this grateful example that his Holines receiuing great sommes of monie in thos dayes out of Fraunce hauing intelligence that ther were dispersed through that prouince numbers of English children bought as bōdslaues for doing of al drudgerie for their maisters profit as the state of seruitude required and that they liued ther in thraldome both of bodie and soule vnbaptized the Blessed Father taking deepe compassion of their miserable case speciallie because they were of that Nation which was then nuelie gained by his trauaile vnto Christ he wrote letters to his receiuour in thos partes that he should not make the french money which was ther to be receiued ouer to Rome by exchange but employ it in Fraunce wher it was currant vpon Charitable vses speciallie therwith to deliuer English Children from seruitude and to bring them into Italie by troupes hauing good graue Priestes to ouersee and instruct them in the Faith and if anie dangerous sicknes should fal to anie of them in the way to baptize them So as he did not onelie procure our peoples saluation at home by sending in diuers learned men to preach and teach the Gospel vnder the conduction of holie S. Augustine our Apostle but also by education abrod of great numbers of our Nation to his great charges temporal So did this renouned Pope and Doctor for our Countrie to bring it from Paganisme to Christ and through God preuayled and deserueth for the same immortal glorie both in heauen and earth And no lesse trulie doth Gregorie the thirtenth for reconciling our countrie from Heresie deserue both bringing vp abrode great numbers of the Nation at his owne charges in Godlie discipline and the same Faith that the foresaid S. Gregorie his Patrone and predecessor first caused to be taught to our forefathers and also disposeth of manie fit persons endued with zeale and spiritual power to returne in peaceable humble and Apostolique maner to their Countrie ther to teach the dec ued to reconcile thē by spiritual power Preistlie functiō to the vnity of Gods Church againe out of which they are most sure to perish and not by raising rebellion or tumultes as this Libeller most falselie pretendeth Which holie function for that they haue done by Gods great grace and goodnes with farre more frute and encrease of the Catholique religion and notorious domage of Heresie The frute of Preestes labours in England then Protestantes feared at the beginning therfore haue they subtellie and falselie turned al thes heroical endeuors of his Holines good offices of Gods Priestes into matters of State and Treason and would make al Princes and people abrode beleeue that are not acquainted as necessitie hath driuen vs to be with the practize of the first Apostles and Fathers of the primitiue Church atchiuing the conuersion of manie cities countries in no other sort then our brethren most godlilie and dutifullie doe attempt in our nation that al our preaching perswading praying offering sacrifice hearing confessions absoluing reconciling hauing of beades crosses images and the like were seditious rebellious traiterous and plaine conspiracie against the Q. Maiesty and the Realme The great malice and ingratitude of England tovvardes this Pope Yea they would so farre if they could abuse the patience and simplicitie of Christian people both of their owne Countrie and others that they would haue them thinke our holie and highe Pastor to haue erected the two Seminaries and other commodities of learning and godlie education for our countrie-men vpon no other
folowing Math. 5. And thos men in such a case are onelie wise and godlie Councellours her Maiesties true subiectes and worthie members of the Common-wealth that humblie exhort her Highnes not to be beguiled by her present fortune or to thinke obstinate and forcible resistance of the Pope or Churches sentence of Excommunication True and good councel to her Maiestie to be her most securitie but to see what Theodosius the elder did whē he was excommunicated by S. Ambrose to remember how Theodosius the yōger behaued him self in the cause of S. Chrisostome for whos vniust banishment the said Emperours father and mother were excommunicated Lib. 10. trip hist cap. 18. 26. to consider wel what the end of the controuersie was betwixt King Henrie the second and the Pope and Bishop of Canturburie in his time and afterward betwene King Iohn and the Sea of Rome and Cleargie in thos dayes That al thes in fin as mightie Princes as they were yeelded and reconciled them selues to the Sea Apostolique A thing that after a litle heat or headines of yong Princes be past was and euer shal be found in fin the onelie sure and honorable way before God and the world to keepe them selues and their Realmes from perdition Which danger her Maiesties father in whom this reuolt of our daies and Countrie beganne both afore once or twice The meaning of K. Henrie 8. for reconciling him self to the Sea of Rome and speciallie towardes his death sawe and earnestlie sought to auert from his posteritie by the like reconciling him self to the Church Which yet through Gods iudgementes he had not time to accomplish in him self but was atchiued afterward most honorablie in his eldest daughter not onelie for consciēce sake otherwise but especiallie for effectuating her said fathers great desire therin as some of her cheefe Councellours to whom he had cōmunicated his mind in that matter did publiquelie testifie to the whole Realme at Paules Crosse Would God our sinnes and the Realmes could suffer her Maiesties wise Councellours to consider of the case with such sinceritie as were requisite for them selues and vs al who by their better or worse election in this one matter are like ether to be long happie or vnhappie for euer We trust the intollerable flatterie of this Libeller or other like telling her Maiesty Hovv al temporal princes haue superiours that she hath no superiour but God none aboue her but the Almightie none that she need to feare or care for but him and therfore that she hath not to regard anie sentence of Pope or others can much moue anie of their wisdomes this being a most shameful Heresie vntruth that a King hath no superiour in matters of his soule conscience When not onelie the general Pastor of the whole Church is his superiour if he be one of Christes flocke or fould al the sheepe wherof without exception by our maisters expresse sentence were committed to Peter his successours feeding and gouernment but also other Prelates of his owne kingdome that haue charge of his soule to whom likewise he oweth al Christian obedience in spiritual affaires no lesse then the poorest man in the Realme For kinges were not excepted from S. Paules rule and admonition giuen to al the faithful in thes wordes Obedite praepositis vestris subiacete eis Heb. 13. Obey your Prelates and be subiect vnto them wherof he yeeldeth immediatelie the cause For that they vvatch as being to render accompt of your soules If Princes then haue soules they must needes be vnder the accompt and charge of Prelates if they haue Prelates they must obey them and be subiect vnto them if they be bound to obey them and be subiect vnto them they must acknowledge them for their superiours How then say thes wicked flatterers that Kings Queens haue no superiors none to be subiect vnto but God That they be the cheefe eue◠in causes ecclesiastical in matters of religion soule and conscience within their Realmes That neither Pope nor Prelate can excommunicate them or vse other discipline for correction of them when they fal from their faith If Theodosius the Emperour had had such bolsterers of his pride about him or so litle grace and wisdome as to haue giuen eare to them The exāple of Theodosius he would litle haue esteemed S. Ambrose authoritie sentence and censure against him But he was more happie and Christian then to plead his superioritie in such matters aboue his Bishop or to chalenge exemption or impunitie in this world for what so euer he did or beleeued and onelie to be reserued to God And it is a singular note of irreligiositie in our dayes that thes prophane Heretiques godles persons doe prefer humane thinges before diuine the regiment temporal before spiritual the bodie before the soule earth before heauen Regalitie before Priesthood and this life before the next and al eternitie Which is an euident demonstration that al tendeth in this Heresie to plaine Paganisme and Epicurisme esteeming and admiring none but such as be in worldlie height power dignitie that can yeeld them thes transitorie honours pleasures and preferments The sayings and doings of ancient Fathers in this case But the truth of this matter may and ought to be learned partlie of the old glorious and most excellēt Doctors and Bishops of the primitiue Church and partlie by the behauiour of the first great Emperours and Kinges that were professours and defendours of the Catholique faith VVhat is more honorable saith S. Ambrose then that the Emperour be called a child of the Church Epist 33. for a good Emperour is vvithin the Church and not aboue the Church And S. Chrisostome admonishing Priestes of their dutie in keeping from the holie altar great offendours expreslie warneth them to vse their authoritie therin euen towardes Kinges or what soeuer they be VVhether saith he he be Duke Prefect or crouned Prince that vvould vnvvorthilie approche Hom. 60. ad Popul 83. in Math. forbid him thy authoritie povver is greater thē his So S. Gregorie Naziāzene speaketh to his owne Emperour The lavve of Christ hath made you subiect to my povver and to my tribunal for vve haue our soueraintie Orat. ad Ciues Nazianz. and that more excellent and perfect vnlesse the spirit should subdue it self to the flesh and heauenlie thinges yeeld to the earthlie VVhich my libertie of speech I feare not O Emperour but thou vvilt allovve seeing thou art an holie sheepe of my sacred fold and a pupil of the great Pastor and vvel instructed by the holie-Ghost from thine infancie Also S. Athanasius plainlie auoucheth and proueth the Emperour Constantius the Arrian Epist ad Solit. vit degent to be the precursor of Antichrist in that he made him self iudge superiour in causes ecclesiastical ouer Bishops and that his arrogated preeminence and exercise of iurisdiction in such matters which our gentle
our cōtentmēt this Libeller so often alleageth if in scoole booke or pulpit it had bene affirmed that for Heresie or Atheisme a Prince or her self might be deposed Yf in the famous vniuersitie of Paris or honorable college of Sorbon VVhat forraine Princes accōpt of such propositions that conclusion of diuinitie were defended that the Pope in case of Heresie might censure their king would that trouble his most Christian Maiesty who desireth no longer to reigne then he doth aduaunce the glorie of Christ The like might be said of th' other great Monarch of Spaine who would not haue his owne issue which God almightie blesse succede him if it were not Catholique No more would th' Emperours sacred Maiesty no nor the Popes Holines in spiritual affaires and regiment of our soules superior to al the rest count anie of his owne subiects traitors for houlding that in case of Heresie or Apostacie he might be deposed or loose the right of his place and dignitie We aske here the Libeller by what law or custome Canon Ciuil or National of our countrie or other is this made treason Or why it should be more treason in England then in anie other place seing no lawe hitherto hath passed by authoritie against the same nor anie opinion to be compted preiudicial to anie Prince or state no assertion treasonable that is true in diuinitie for that no truth agreable to Gods lawe and mans can be contrarie to the lauful soueraigntie of anie power or potentate in earth But you wil say and that is al you can say that though the general proposition An obiection vvith the ansvver that Princes for Heresie may be deposed were true yet th'application therof to her Maiestie in particuler may be treason for that it is made high treason by act of Parliamēt in the thirtenth yeare of the Q. reigne for anie to cal her an Heretique or a Shismatique vnder paine of death To which we answere first that our affirming that she may be deposed for Heresie doth not at al auouch her to be one no more then the like assertion of the K. of Spaine would implie him to be such an one or vs to thinke him such an one and therfore if your owne conscience accuse your selues or giue you suspition that what soeuer is said toucheth you it is you that applie the general speach to your owne particuler and not we Secondlie we say that your said law may bind vs that be subiects not to speake so vnreuerentlie of her to whom God hath giuen power ouer vs in this lyfe as to cal her Heretique Infidel or Schismatique for thos be the termes of your statute though we should know her damnably to erre in Religion but the Pope is not subiect to that lawe but he may according to th' authoritie giuen vnto him determine by the lawes of God holie Church who is an Heretique and so wil the learned of forraine schooles whether you wil or no applie the definition of Heresie or of an Heretique to what person they please As for vs our brethren executed you know none euer called the Q. Heretique voluntarilie contemptuouslie or malitiouslie as your statute runneth but when they were driuen by you of set purpose to offend the lawe so to haue some quarel to make them away The malice of our persecutours in driuing and inforcing men to offend their lavves For example of your charitable and no lesse politique dealing in such matters we wil set doune the holie Martyr Iohn Nelsons case This man being brought before the Magistrate was demaunded what Religion he was of to which when he bouldlie answered that he was a Catholique they further asked what he thought of that Religion and seruice which was vsed in England and to that when he answered that he tooke it to be heretical and schismatical then quoth they what is Schisme A volūtarie reuolt said he from the Romane and Catholique Church Wel then said the Magistrate goe toe what thinkest thou of the Q. is she a Schismatique or no for of anie thing said before they had no iust pretence of law to cōdemne him of treason the man of God answered that he neuer so called her for reuerence of her highe dignitie nor could tel for that he knew not her Maiesties meaning whether this Religion were established by her special commandement and authoritie or no and therfore humblie prayed them not to vrge him wittinglie to commit anie crime wherin hitherto he had neuer offended But they would not so cease but said they could wel resolue him in that that in deed this English religion was established by her and by her mainteined the Confessor refused stil to answere saying that he knew not so much for al that of her mind cōscience but it might proceed rather of some of her ministers more then of her self in which sort as S. Augustine noteth a man may be deceaued by heretiques but yet properlie no heretique Haereticis credens non propriè Haereticus A differēce betvvene an Heretique and one that beleeueth Heretiques But because they would needes haue the poore mans death they left him not so but what say they if she were the author of this religion then whether were she a Schismatique or Heretique or no The Confessor being loth to exasperate the Prince on the one side and more loth to offend God or giue scandal on thother after he had paused a while and asked strength from aboue finallie he said if she be the setter forth and defender of this Religion then she is a Schismatique Heretique in deed And so they got the holie person into the cōpasse of their lawe for which afterward he was Martired Now we doe appeale to the equitie of al Christian people how loth our brethren be to offend by word or deed the honour of the Q. The offence of Catholiques coacted after what a shameful captious sort they be forced to doe or say that which the enemie chargeth them withal euen to death Alas it is not Catholiques that applie thos vniuersal truthes of schooles to the particuler case of our state but it is their owne vneuen driftes questiōs feares and suspicions that make them imagine and conuert al to them selues As also it is their errour in regiment wel near as may be doubted incorrigible that hath brought them selues to thes perplexities and vs to thes coacted miseries and complaints Lastlie we say that how soeuer anie one Catholique or other hath bene driuē or shal be forced hereafter to offend against the said Statute of Supremacy or Heresy or against any new law made in that behalf yet in equity they can not be pursued to death for that cause seing our aduersary protesteth here publiquely in his Libel that no other trespasses shal be obiected to vs as matter capital sauīg treasōs so made by th' olde lawes of the Realme As we for our partes eftsons doe protest and
shal be said in the next chapter and others folowing The Libellers importunate insolency inforcing vs therunto like as the Ciuil Magistrats most captious and bloody conceipts coÌ„strained some of our blessed brethern before their martirdomes to speake more therof then otherwise they desired though nothing so much as by warrant of Gods word and holy writ they might haue done THAT IT IS MVCH TO THE BENEFITE AND STABILITIE OF COMMON vvealthes and speciallie of Kinges scepters that the difference betvvixt them and their people for Religion or anie other cause for vvhich they may seeme to deserue depriuation may rather be decided by the supreme Pastor of the Church as Catholiques vvould haue it then by popular mutinie and phantasie of priuate men as Heretikes desire and practize CAP. VI. THE Libeller once or twice in his discours seditiouslie calleth vpoâ— the Monarches and Princes of the world warning theÌ„ of the doubtful and seruile state they be in whiles the Popes may be suffred to make and vnmake kinges and Princes at their pleasure The seditious sleight of the Libeller and to licence their subiectes to resist them And the man perchance might haue his tale heard if he spake to the simple sort or to such Kinges as feared nether God nor man nor sought otherwise not anie longer to vphould their estates but by desperate force and practize and for their owne time without regard of their posterity But speaking to them whos wisdomes susteine the world whos Crounes are worne Swordes are borne for Christ his spouse whos glorious Auncestors partlie first rose partlie were established and them-selues yet safelie stand and happilie florish which our Lord God long coÌ„tinue by the benediction of the Sea Apostolique and good intelligence correspondece with the high Bishops of the same good audience hardly can they looke for Th' example of some other Princes Protestants about â—hem forsaking the felowship of the Catholique and Apostolique sea and speciallie of king HeÌ„rie th' eight â—â—rst his sonne and daughter after him in EnglaÌ„d 〈◊〉 man a child and a woman not onely seuering them â—elues from the same but annexing to their regalitie â—y strange lawes al Apostolical and Papal power spiâ—itual with infinite emolumentes made by confiscatioÌ„ of al religious mens landes and goods in the whole Realme which was the beginning of that new Ecclesiastical regiment thes thinges being of greater â—emptation then the Libellers bare wordes could â—et neuer moue th'Emperour nor either of the great Monarches nor anie other king of wise counsel in the world to breake with Gods Church and the cheefe Pastors therof Knowing by the recordes of al ages siâ—hence Christ that what Princes or PoteÌ„tates soeuer haue formallie opposed theÌ„ selues to Christes Vicar and refused to communicate with him in the faith and felowship of the Catholique Church were euer in them selues or their posteritie confounded and their kingdomes ouerthrowen or brought to miserable seruitude of Turke or other heathen Tirant It is not the good fortune of a few yeares felicitie that moueth the graue and sage gouernours of the world though the Libeller to make fooles faine The vvise considerations of Catholique Princes vrgeth their good lucke in England much since their breach with Gods Church but they wil looke farther about them and see the euents of thes strange attempts in vs and the iudgements of God for the same not onelie til th' end of K. Henrie th' eight his race who was Radix peccati but afterwarde if our Lord deferre his sentence so long to some new generations to come Ouer which as vpon the Prince and state present of our Countrie we humblie on our knees with continual teares desire God to haue mercie and to auert his indignation from them and vs that the Princes and people of the world may rather be edified by th' example of our conuersion and returne to Gods Church then be instructed by the sight of our punishment and confusion But now for the coÌ„ceipt that this good man would driue into mens heades that no state should be in safetie if the Pope might depriue the Prince at his pleasure it is a bugge fit onelie to feare babes Al wise men in the world that ether see the present times The Popes authoritie touching Princes regalities or looke backe into the ages past knowe that the Pope neither chalengeth nor vsurpeth nor vseth anie such authoritie at his pleasure to depose or exalt whom he list And al learned deuines confesse that he hath not anie direct or immediate iurisdictioÌ„ or superioritie ouer the temporalities Ciuil states or regalities of secular Princes or Magistrates and therfore can not dispose of their kingdomes nor actions alter nor abrogate their lawes as he daylie doth and may doe at his good pleasure of Prelates Bishops and Priests affaires vpon whom he hath direct power and iurisdiction but that he may onely intermedle indirectlie with temporal Princes as he is the Cheefe officer vnder Christ and hath charge of their soules and therbie hath to looke whether their regimentes tend anie way to the iniurie of the Church and true Religion or to their owne and their subiects damnation as in case of Schisme Heresie Apostasie Idolatrie Sacriledge and other intollerable defectes in gouernmeÌ„t for which he being their Bishop is bound to admonish them sondrie times with al lenitie if that serue not to excommunicate them and if they contemne that and the Churches discipline and authoritie then be they esteemed as heathens and vnworthie of superioritie ouer Gods people This is not to depose Kinges at his pleasure nor is cause sufficient why anie iust and Christian Prince should stand in doubt of the Popes censures onelie such as be Heretiques or intend to shake of the yoke of Christ and their faith in him VVhat Princes only feare the Pope haue cause in their conscience to doubt both the Churches discipline the plagues of God which wil not faile them how so euer by humane force and violence they protect them selues for a time from his Ministers sentence sweet corrections Al iust and Catholique Kinges are so far from doubting or misliking Gods ordinance and the practize of the sea Apostolique herein that they perceiue it most necessarie for the stabilitie of their kingdomes and the continuaunce of their posteritie in the glorie therof that for their regiment in faith and life they stand in some reuereÌ„d awe of their cheefe Pastors which is a necessarie and honorable bridle of Princes in their youth and al the dayes of their life to stay them from dangerous disorders and so to temper them in ther gouernmeÌ„t that they may raigne loÌ„g and happilie ouer their people wher otherwise they might fal into infinite calamities and be ether forsaken deposed or shamefullie destroyed by their owne subiects whether they be depriued by holie Churches censure or no. Nether doth anie godlie Christian Prince at this day as we thinke wishe their Empire ether
in them selues their children or posteritie to dure anie longer then they continue in the Catholique faith and the communion of the Sea and Church Apostolique nor would suffer anie of their name or blood to reigne after them that were like to be Heretiques but rather would disinherite or execute them with their owne handes then feare or expect their deposition by the Pope Therfore though with such as feele their owne fault it soundeth euil to heare of the Authoritie and vsage of Gods Church in censuring kinges yet it troubleth not anie iust and lauful Prince especiallie when by their wisdome experience they may perceiue that Princes aboue al other both good and euil be subiect to humane casualties and may fal and loose their kingdomes by an hundreth accidents of mutinies and rebellions of their subiects or by external or domestical warres of Competitours or enimyes to al which The great cōmodities vvhich grovv to al kingdomes by the Popes high authoritie the Popes highe authoritie and interest giueth great stay and moderation in deciding the controuersies of titles and causes of ciuil or forraine warres and by his manifould endeuours of Pacification and composition wherof al the kinges and states Christian haue at sondrie times of their distresses receiued singular profit as appeareth in the histories of the warres betwixt our nation Fraunce and Scotland and in our owne Ciuil tumultes which haue bene often appeased by the mediation of the Pope both parties deferring to him as to the high Priest and general Arbiter of Christian Princes and people being to al indifferent without al partialitie the decision of thos thinges which otherwise could not by lawes nor by armes without-lamentable destruction and much blood be determined Wherebie Princes of lesse power iniuried by the greater and mightier haue euer found succour and redresse and iust kinges distressed by their rebellious subiectes haue had singular assistance As we may see in the stories both of our owne Countrie wher the Popes haue sent diuers Legates to the Barons being vp against their lauful Soueraignes to admonish them to lay doune their armes and when they would not excommunicated them by which meanes manie a king with vs hath kept his Croune which otherwise had bene depriued by tumultuous and popular sedition and no lesse in th'examples of other nations and that in our owne memories hauing experience of diuers blessed Popes diligence in aiding the two great Monarches aswel by the powers temporal which God hath giuen them as by ecclesiastical Censures against their rebels and large spiritual graces benedictions bestowed vpon al that would faithfullie adioine to the repression of the seditious subiects and the preseruation of the Soueraigne The Apostolique Bishop is not an enimie to superioritie and domination The Bishoplike authoritie no enimie to Princes which he knoweth best to be of God as his owne high estate is but a spiritual and most louing Parent and common Father of al Christians and speciallie of Princes He seeketh not their depositions nor mainteineth reuoultes from them no not thē when to his infinite greefe he is forced sometimes though meruelous seldome to giue sentence for the people subiects against the Prince but vseth needful discipline towards them for their saluation Let the graue and wise men of al nations consider with vs whether Princes be in more danger of their state by the lauful Pastors of their soules that iudge by Gods spirit by counsel deliberation order and authoritie without malice hatred or partialitie or by Heretiques seditious and rebellious persons that deale by erroneous conscience phantasie and furie The Protestantes plainlie hould in al their writings and schooles and so practize in the sight of al the world that Princes may for tirannie or Religion be resisted depriued We and al Catholiques likewise affirme that for Heresie and some other great enormities they may be excommunicated and further censured But the Protestants would haue them selues the subiects to rebel and throwe doune their superiors on their owne head and wilfulnes and them selues to be iudges of their Soueraignes desertes and Religion Now we demaund of the Libeller that giueth Princes so frendlie warning of their dangerous estates A resonable demaūd to the Libeller if Popes may vse such authoritie ouer Princes whether the Kinges of Christendome whom their owne sect-maisters confesse may be deposed stand not in far greater hazard of their dominions and persons by the brutish and seditious people armed alwaies with furie and often also as at this present with Heresie then they are of Popes It was not the Pope that gaue licēce or encouragement to the subiects of Scotlād to take armes against their natural liege and Q. to emprison her and to cause her by feare of death to resigne her Croune It is not the Pope that embouldened them barbarouslie to restraine their noble yong King and so often to rebel against him though nether they for his Religion haue anie reason to depriue him nor the Popes Holines otherwise then for the iustice of his quarel against his rebels anie cause to defend him It was not the Pope that licensed the subiects of the king Catholique to fight so long and obstinatlie against their Lord and maister nor that encouraged them to depriue him of his soueraigntie and ancient inheritance It was not the Pope that hath hazarded three mightie Kinges his most Christian Maiesty that now is and his two crouned brethrē before him of their States and bereaued them of manie great partes and cities of their kingdome or that went about to depriue them euen in the time of their innocencie and yong years Popes vse to defend innocents not to destroye them in their nonage or to abuse their minoritie And such is otherwise the manifould hazard of kinges by rebellions that in our owne Countrie The danger of Princes by rebelliō the Child hath deposed his Father the Vncle his Nephew the Wife her owne Husband most commonlie the worse and more wicked the more godlie and innocent And we maruel much this Libeller that would seeme to be such a Statesman and a Counseller to forreine kinges could find no danger to them and their countries sauing of the Popes power ouer them which in verie truth by Christs special prouidence is the greatest protection guarde and stay that innocent Princes and their people can haue the awe and reuerend respect of his holie authoritie keeping thousandes from rebellion and intrusion and a number of iust Princes in their empires which els had bene in diuers countries ouerthrowen The Protestantes cannot proue by example of al nations times since Christ that anie one hath bene deposed that was not prooued to be a notorious Heretique or euil man On th' other side Rebels and namelie Heretiques by vnlauful meanes The practise of Heretikes depriue commonlie none but innocent iust and holie Princes Vnto whos barbarous crueltie this Libeller would haue their sacred Maiesties
occasion but to moue sedition and rebellion and therfore are so farre from giuing him humble thankes as they ought to doe as our Nation wil once doe if euer it come to it self againe that they hate his person and office for this cause most deadle and doe publish by this Libel and otherwise that it is a worke of high hostilitie against her Maiesty But alas for pitie and woe be to our sinnes that the state of our Common-wealth is now so neerlie ioined vnto Heresie that nether Christes Vicar by charitie and discipline nor Gods Priestes by anie office of ther life and death can seeke to remedie the one but they shal be accompted enimies and traitors to the other Which fond malice yet through our infelicitie is more apparant in England then in anie other people of the world besides though in error and out of Gods Church as ours The godlie Zealous doinges of this Pope for religion It is the peculiar glorie of Gregorie the thirtenth aboue al his predecessors and other Prelates of al ages that in so sweet and Apostolique sort he prouideth for the instruction of innumerable youthes for their owne saluation and for the reduction of their natiue countries and interteining the Catholique faith in most prouinces of the world Many are the people in the world abrod especiallie in the East South and North partes therof which are in Schisme Heresie or Error no lesse thē the English and the incomparable care of this general Pastor prouideth for euerie one in the best maner that is possible as wel by corporal as spiritual releefe He hath at this day some of the fathers of the Societie of Iesus in Constantinople The Society of Iesus in Constantinople Alexandria and els wher-soeuer is anie oportunitie to gaine soules in the dominions of the Turke in Muscouia likewise and other Prouinces addicted to the errors of the Grecians He hath instituted Seminaries for the Greekes Armenians and Sclauonians he hath placed colledges of the Societie and Seminaries in Suetia Liuonia Polonia Boëmia Transiluania for Scotland also and speciallie for the noble Prouince of Germanie Yea his pastoral solicitude reacheth euen to the East Indies wher in Iapon he hath founded this last yeare past and mainteineth a goodlie colledge not without his great expenses Thus he doth in the cause of Christ from one end of the world to an other whilest his and holie Churches miserable aduersaries waste their time in wrangling and wrastling against the truth And ther is none of al thes Nations of what sect or sort so euer that can be so suspicious or malitious as to interprete his Holines meaning as th' English doe or that conceiue anie feare of treasons confederacies inuasions or destructions of their countries as our men dreame of Other natiōs in Scisme not so ingrat as England The Germanes though al be not Catholiques but manie much altered by their vnaduised folowing of Martin other as madde sectaries yet they al count it a singular honor profit to their nation that they haue so famous a college in Rome it self as our Nation did of olde when it had there a great schoole about a thousand yeares agoe builded by king Offa and afterward an hospital Wher now we of England be come by this wicked Heresie to be so careles of our publique profit and honor that we contemne and maliciouslie condemne a gift farre more excellēt thē euer was bestowed vpon our Countrie before in forreine places and most deuillishlie doe hate the giuer Wherin the Heretiques in this Libel and otherwise shew such ignorant barbarous mockerie touching the terme of Seminaries as though they were estranged from al actions of the Christian world through out al which that terme and calling is so common namelie since the godlie decree of the holie Councel of Trent The name of Seminaries giuing order for the erection of such nurceries for the clergie as it is tooto ridiculous in our English Heretiques to make them selues sport at it as they wiselie doe in this Libel also at the name of the Popes Buls The name of Buls by pretie allusion as they thinke but in deed with smal grace resembling them to the bubles of water with such scorneful companions the Church of God hath now to deale But for defence of the Societie Seminaries and the sending of Priestes into England the men of thos orders and qualitie haue age and habilitie to answer for them selues and it is done to our handes plentifullie in their Apologie The English Apologie which the aduersaries shal neuer answere with reason and credit And therfore of that matter inough OF THE LATE WARRES IN IRELAND FOR RELIGION HOW THE POPE may vse the svvord and that the differences betvvixt temporal Princes and him or their resisting him in some cases of their vvorldlie interest can be no vvarrant to the Protestantes to contemne his censures or authoritie in matter of Faith and Religion CAP. VII Hovv the Pope may vse the svvord BVT the aduersarie obiecteth that whatsoeuer the Pope doth or may doe by his Buls excommunications institution of Seminaries or other such like spiritual endeuours may either be contemned or neglected by the example of her Maiesty who regarded not his doinges against her so long as he satt stil in his Chair but when he rose vp in anger and left Verbum the word and tooke Ferrum the sword against S. Bernardes direct aduice to Eugenius saith this Libeller yea and when contrarie to the Scriptures he drew forth the sword which Christ commaunded Peter to put vp into the scabard and inuaded by his forces her Maiesties kingdome of Ireland then saith this good man she could doe no lesse but vse such resistance by armes and otherwise as was requisite for her owne defence Wherat we maruel lesse indeed for that before she had contemned the Popes spiritual rodde of excommunication and al Ecclesiastical admonition and censure Lib. 1. cōt Faustum cap. 17. which is the high Priestes and Churches most proper weapon and is more to be feared of al faithful persons as holie S. Augustine saieth Then to be hevved in peeces vvith the svvord burned vvith the fire or torne in sonder of vvilde beastes and is a punishment so dreadful that euen then when it is knowen to be executed without iust cause by some errour or wrong information it may not be contemned Therfore where that was not regarded we knowe ther could be no scruple to withstand anie other Martial attempt against Pope or whomsoeuer nether could it seme strange But at this al the world may wounder and it is maruelous in our eyes why the Popes hostilitie in Ireland The Popes doinges no cause to martyr Priestes should condemne so manie innocent Priests and Catholiques that neuer were in Ireland nor euer were acquainted with the action of that Countrie or anie other rebellion against the Queene in ether of her kingdomes Put
cōtention betvvē the spirit and the flesh hovv far tollerable and contrariwise the spirit the flesh eche one of them seeking after a sort to enlarge his owne limites and commodities by some hinderance of the other which combat conflict notwithstanding is ether tollerable or not damnable so long as the inferiour which is the flesh by ouer greedie appetite of her owne aduancement destroieth not the superiour which is the soule So doubtles in a Christian Common-wealth the spiritual and temporal state being ioined together as it were in one bodie must needes keepe some moderate strife and combat for maintenance of ether of their limites in external regiment which may be borne withal of eche side so long as nether part seeketh ouer obstinatelie the destruction of the other but doe agree and conioine in preseruation of the principal But where the bodie politique as it is now in our miserable Countrie by intollerable disorder doth striue not so much with the Sea Apostolique The intollerable proceeding of England and bodie mistical of Christ for thinges ether indifferent or not merlie necessarie to the spiritual regiment but by euident rape and violence against the lawes of God man bereaueth Christes Vicar of his whole soueraintie high Preisthood and Prelacie and the Catholique Church of al the rightes douries which our Master her spouse endowed her withal and tirānicallie draweth al to the Princes REGALITIE altering by the authoritie therof the whole faith and true worship of God into abhominable Apostacie Scisme and desolation ther the Libeller can find no example in anie Christian Lawes or Countries through out the world in any age to proue his purpose though vainlie and impertinentlie he alleage thes Concordates of Fraunce other Nations as also the compositions of England with the Pope or what orders and lawes soeuer besides ether lauful or vnlauful concerning restraint of any Papal or Ecclesiastical power which serue nothing at al for defence of the late English general and most impudent reuolt from the vnitie of Gods Catholique and Apostolique Church Manie things might the wordlinges of our Countrie euen in Catholique times attempt for their owne aduantage Some vncōscionable lavves might passe in a Catholique time against the commodities of the Church Our Kinges other in times of dissention with certaine Popes of their dayes might driue the weaker to vnequal conditions and serue their owne ambitious humours to the Churches disaduantage Some lawes might also passe by the powerablenes of Princes in their owne dominions the Sea Apostolique vtterlie reclaiming against them which though they were not directlie against anie point of Faith or Religion yet might be verie preiudicial to the state ecclesiastical and liberties of holie Church as the lawe of Premuniri was which is mentioned by the aduersarie Against which diuers Popes speciallie Gregorie the eleuenth and Martin the fift opposed them selues earnestlie The lavv of Premuniri and dealt with K. Edvvard the thrid and Henrie the sixt for abrogating the same which they both promised to doe but neuer did and cōsequētly it remaineth stil in his first vncōcionable force if the makers had any such meaning as their folowers haue found out for that it may by calumnious interpretation be vsed at the onlie pleasure of the Prince to the confiscation of al Church-mens goodes imprisonment of their persons destruction of the whole Cleargie wherof king Henrie the eight in the beginning of his Scisme gaue an horrible example Which iniquitie the Libeller him self is not ashamed to commend and to propound to other Princes for imitation Thes iniustices and the like may be by some Kinges committed and are as we haue said for peace and Charities sake borne by thē who are taught by their Maister and by the Apostolical Bishops of the primitiue Church to set more by one soule then by al the honours goods priuileges in the world otherwise So that God be honored whether causes at the first instance or by appeale onelie be differred to the Court of Rome or no whether the Pope Prince Cleargie or people appoint the Pastours or no a thing diuerslie vsed in diuers ages the Church can beare al and turne al to good so long as the true Faith and substance of Ecclesiastical iurisdiction be not destroied Wherin yet this may be comfortable to al obedient children of the Church Ecclesiastical restraintes haue not proued so profitable and worthie to be considered of discret persons that in al or surelie in most part of such limitations restraintes diminishinges or alteratiō of the Popes Churches authoritie thinges haue afterwardes so fallen out that wise men hartilie wish no change euer had bene made And for the euidence therof we refere al men to the pondering of this one point speciallie amongst manie concerning the nominations and elections of Bishopes Abbots and other Prelates whether the world wēt not as wel when such thinges passed by canonical election or the Popes prouision as it hath done since or hereafter euer is like to doe At the beginning of such alterations men pretended reasons for the particular Churches commodities of sondrie Nations which a few yeares experience and the euent of thinges haue in most matters controuled But were it wel or euil it can nether be example nor warrant to our present Contrie to destroy Abbeis kil the religious murder Gods Priestes imprison al the sacred persons of Bishops through out the Realme to hate blaspheme abolish al authoritie and iurisdiction Apostolical yea and to make a solemne publique prayer in the litanie That God vvould deliuer our Country from the Pope in stead of that which the whole Christian world deuoutlie singeth and saieth daylie Vt Dominum Apostolicum omnes ecclesiasticos ordines in sancta religione conseruare digneris Barbarous malice of English Heretiques against the Sea Apostolique Would anie man thinke that ether they should fal to such barbarousnes or to such impudencie as to defend so grosse impietie by the examples of other Catholique Kinges Contries and times in the cases aforesaid Or can it be possible they could imagine the difference betwene K. Henrie the vij and the Pope that then was The grosnes of the Libeller about a matter of Alume should warrant her Maiesty that now is or her Councellours to stand against the high Priest of God and to goe to lawe with him for his spiritual Prelacie What a Grossehead is this Libeller or rather what a deceiptful person for he can not be so rude as not to knowe the difference of thinges so farre distant that alleageth the warres sometimes fallen out betwixt certaine Popes and Princes about their temporal interests to proue that Catholique kinges care not for the Pope or that them selues may resist him by armes and contemne his authoritie in matters of Faith Religion Wherin his exāples also are very euil chosen when he goeth about to make vs beleeue that Charles the fift cared not for
the conducting of them to life and peace euerlasting and the temporal perteineth principallie to the good and trāquilitie of this trāsitorie life comparing thē both together it must needes be cōfessed that the spiritual is the higher nearer and liker to the Soueraintie of God ouer his reasonable creatures thē is the terrene power or Humane creature as the Apostle here termeth the King his presidēts 2. Pet. 7. So as euerie power both spiritual and temporal being of God as S. Paul teacheth and obedience and subiection due to both in their kind though in seueral subiects causes and respectes yet is it most cleare that of the two the ecclesiastical power and regiment is more excellent In respect wherof S. Ignatius The subordination of the tvvo povvers according to S. Ignatius giueth this order in honoring and respecting our superiours Honour God the author and Lord of al and the Bishop as the Prince of Priestes being the Image of God and holding his Princedome of him and his Priesthood of Christ Epist ad Smirnē And after him you must honor also the King For none is to be preferred before God nor equal to him nor more honorable in the Church then the Bishop exercising the Priesthood of God for the saluation of the vvorld Nether is anie equal to the King in the hoste or campe procuring peace and beneuolence to the other Princes vnder him For he that honoreth the Bishop shal be honored of God and he that dishonoreth him shal of God be dishonored For if anie man rising against the king is vvorthie of damnation hovv can he escape Gods iudgementes that attempteth anie thing against or vvithout the Bishop For Priesthood is the cheef and somme of al mans good vvhich vvho so euer disgraceth dishonoreth God and our Lord IESVS CHRIST the chefe Priest of God c. And if anie man list farther to see what the olde Christian Emperours thought and acknowledged in this matter The opiniō practise of old Christian Emperours in this cause and how they behaued them selues towardes Gods priestes in al causes of religion and spiritual affaires and with what honour priuilege and prerogatiue they respected their persons and holie calling euen in temporal causes let him reade Zozomenus how Constantine the great behaued him self towardes the Bishopes in the first Councel of Nice Li. 2. ca. 2. trip and S. Augustines 162. epistle of the same Emperours contentment to aske pardon of the Bishopes for taking vpon him to deale in the Cause of Caecilian properlie perteining to them S. Ambrose epistle 32. of Valentinian the elders lawe that in ecclesiastical causes none should iuditiallie deale that were not of the same order The like he writeth of the Emperour Gratians behauiour in the Councel of Aquileia And to be breefe let him reade the Emperour Iustinianus sixt constitution wher he both putteth the true difference betwixt the Priesthood and the Empire and preferreth that before this saying thus The greatest giftes of God among men Auth. Quomodo oport Episcop c. in p. is the Priestood and the Empire of vvhich tvvo the former hauing the administration of diuine thinges the other of humane both proceeding of one beginning doe adorne mans life c. And thus it is euen in thos Countries where the Church and Ciuil state concurre in one common wealth wher like as the Prelates be in some respect and causes subiect to the temporal Prince so againe the Prince and state reciprocallie in spiritual matters are obedient to the Church Prelates ether of them deferring due honor to the other but the spiritual souerantie euer preferred among the faithful though for worldlie power force and glorie most necessarie to keepe the people in awe order kinges doe lightlie exceed the other Which exterior shew and splendour of Prince the Prelates of their seueral dominions doe most humblie by al seruice and office manteine But now for the Pope cheefe of al Bishopes and Christian people being in respect of his temporal state subiect to no Prince nor Potentat of the world and for his spiritual dignitie and iurisdiction farre passing al the Prelates of particular Churches and prouinces his principalitie being in nether kind subiect or subalternate to anie other he must needes be greater and more pearles without al exception and limitation And though his state and authoritie temporal be not holden nor chalenged by Gods expresse lawe immediatlie of him as the spiritual supremacie is The prouidēce of God for the Popes tēporal povver which he hath and holdeth immediatlie and directlie of Christ yet it is Gods great prouidence that sith the Emperours and Kinges haue bene christened and submitted them selues to the obedience of Christ and his Church that the cheefe Bishop should for the honour of Christ and his high dignitie be made free from al subiection by the Princes and Emperours owne grauntes be possessed of the capital Citie of al the world Which could neuer haue bene brought to passe nor so manie worlde 's continued in the reuolutions changes and ouerturninges of so many kingdomes states great Monarchies round about him had it not bene done by Gods special pleasure ordinance to the end that being subiect to none he might with more libertie lesse danger and greater indifferencie doe iustice to al and vse discipline without feare or respect of persons as wel towardes great as smal Which if he were subiect to some secular Princes as most other Bishopes are could hardlie be done In which case also some of our ignorant Heretiques as among other this Libeller be so vnsensible that they sticke not to alleage the saying of S. Paul Absurd allegatiō of S. Paul by the Libeller Rom. 13. That euerie soule must be subiect to superiour povver to proue therbie as it seemeth that the Pope should be obedient to our Queene or to some other particular king As though euerie person should be subiect to euerie power or to anie other then to him that hath superioritie ouer him or in anie other matters then wherin he hath superioritie may commaund Or as though God had onelie ordeined secular power and commaunded al obedience therunto and not appointed spiritual power and prelacie with charge of subiection vnto the same also With such grosse felowes the Church hath to doe that nether haue sense reason nor religion and which alleage that for obedience to earthlie powers onelie which ether in expresse wordes or by necessarie sequele much more commendeth subiection to spiritual powers As with like blindnes the man also alleageth this our Sauiours sentence The Kinges of the Gentils haue rule over them Luc. 22. but you not so to proue that Popes should arrogate no temporal authoritie but feede onelie as he saith Peter did and manie of the next Popes after him Which he would neuer haue cited if he had knowen that hereby onelie al tirannical domination vsed among the heathen Princes
the Popes Excommunication and Curse The sacking of Rome by the Duke of Burbon because his souldiars vnder the conduction of Burbon committed horrible violence and vilanie in the Citie of Rome against his Holines the Cardinals and al other whom they found ther as their pray Wher in deed the said noble Emperour though then verie yōg yet was nether cōsenting therunto nor had anie knowledge of the disorder til it was done purging him self therof afterward to the Pope verie humblie and the said Burbon author of that wicked enterprice by Gods mightie hand and iudgement and for a signe how highlie that impious fact displeased his diuine Maiestie was slaine sodenlie and as it is thought the first of al other vpon the wal of the suburbes Let al thos that take such examples take heed of the like endes As for the loialtie of the most Catholique King that now is of Spaine to the Sea Apostolique Touching the exāples of K. Philip and the Duke of Alua. notwith-standing what temporal differences soeuer haue fallen or may fal out betwene them it were to much idlenes to stand vpon against this fond wrangler And the Duke of Alua his Maiesties general behaued him self euen at that time when he had his armie before Rome as wel of his owne singular deuotiō as by his Kinges commaundement most religiouslie and honorablie without anie violence in the world or domage to the Citie other thē the waste of a few places of pleasure vines and orchardes about the wals for which this good felowe with whō we deale maketh much mone as it seemeth wher in deed he would rather haue wished the whole Citie bothe sacked and suncke for deuotion But thes Princes saith he cared not for the Popes Curses when they thus pursued their claimes both by armes and lawes The truth is that the Pope excommunicateth not euerie one that ether resisteth him in temporal quarels or matter of emolumentes of their peculiar Churches or Countries whether it be by lawes or armes and therfore ther is no cause why in such cases wher no censures are vsuallie published this Libeller should say Hovv the Pope and temporal Princes may contend in armes They regard no curses nor anathematizinges c. Nether thē also whē the iniurie done to holie Church or Apostolique sea seemeth so euident to the Pope that ther may appeare some reasonable cause of excommunicating the impugners the parties so censured in the contrarie side vpon perswasion of their right doe persist notwithstanding in the defence therof not then I say doe they contemne the censure as is vntruelie conceaued by the aduersarie but rather absteining from the holie Sacramentes and companie of such as to them by lawe are forbidden doe vse humble meanes towardes his Holines for his better information in the cause and doe seeke that the matter may be ended by good order of composition or arbitrament of other Princes and godly persons Or if in such causes of strife for worldlie commodities where the temporal Prince may sometimes ether haue the right on his side or seeme to him self in conscience or by the iudgemēt of godlie learned and indifferent men to haue it we graunt that he may without feare of Censures by armes or otherwise pursue his iust claime without impechement of his obedience in spiritual affaires may therfore sacrilegious persons as Heretiques Apostataes and open obstinate offendours contemne at their pleasures and violentlie resist the sentence of holie Church No ther is no match in thes matters What if the late Q. Marie of England staied the messinger of the Pope The example of Q. Marie ansvvered bringing a discharge of the late renouned Cardinal Poole from his authoritie Legantine and a Cardinals hat for a person though verie godlie yet knowen to be vnfit til his Holines might be better enformed of the man of the whole matter as immediatlie he was with al diligence and humilitie by the said most deuout Princesse should this be an example or encouragement to others of plaine disobedience and reuolt or wholie to abandone the Popes authoritie and to inuest a woman which is against nature in his Supremacie and spiritual charge ouer al her subiectes soules No surelie no more then of reason it should haue serued her Maiesties Councel sitting once in consultation together of the case to denie entrance to the Nuncio Apostolico The Nuncio Apostolico that came to summon to the General Counsel denied to enter Englād sent by Pius quartus about the third yeare of her Highnes raigne to require and beseech her in God to send some of her learned men to the general Councel of Trent then in hand as most other great Potentates of Christiantie did bringing with him a Safe-conduct for their peaceable passage audience and intertainment notwithstanding their contrarie religion and faction So did the English Counsel thē make their aduantage of that vnlike fact of the late noble Queene at once both to mainteine their vnlike seperation from the Christiā world and the felowship of other Catholique kinges as also and that perhaps especiallie to couer the ignorance feare and insufficiencie of their Superintendentes The English Superintēdentes afraid to goe to the Councel of Trent who though her Maiesty and others of the Nobilitie were wel īclined to send some of them for the honour of the Realme yet for feare of burning as they pretended but indeed for feare of the Catholiques learning and their owne shame the good-felowes made al the sute vnder-hand they could that none might be inforced thither And so at length it was agreed and moreouer that his Holines Ambassadour should not so much as be heard or suffred to come within the Realme vpon the warrant I say of the forsaid vnlike example of the former Queene Mary Which also serueth them further euer since not onelie to renounce al the old authoritie power and interest of the Sea Apostolique ouer our Countrie and to make the cheefe Bishop therof a mere stranger as other worldlie Princes of the Prouinces about vs that haue nothing to doe with our affaires whos messingers yet and Ambassadours for needful entercours and mutual intelligence by the lawe of natiōs they willinglie admit ether in peace or warres as occasion serueth but also to make him a Diuel an Antichrist and worse then the Turke him self whos messingers as the world seeth may haue audiēce with them and good correspondence wheras the Pope can haue none Wherby is discouered the miserie of wicked Heresie and the extreme hatred that rebellious children doe beare to their mother whom they vnhappilie haue forsaken obstinatelie resist to their owne perdition And this shal be sufficient to shew how wrongfully vnreasonably this Libeller hath sought to defend their English general reuoult from the Church of Rome and their contempt of his Holines Censures by the examples of some Catholique Princes differences wordlie debates with certaine Popes prelates of