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A33225 A view of the whole controversy between the representer and the answerer, with an answer to the representer's last reply in which are laid open some of the methods by which Protestants are misrepresented by papists. Clagett, William, 1646-1688. 1687 (1687) Wing C4402; ESTC R10868 75,717 128

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they_o live_v and_o upon_o their_o tomb_n when_o they_o be_v dead_a 16._o p._n 16._o by_o the_o weekly_a bill_n of_o london_n which_o show_v that_o mary_n have_v nineteen_o church_n and_o christ_n but_o three_o by_o the_o picture_n in_o their_o bibles_n and_o common-prayer-book_n and_o by_o many_o other_o mark_v as_o good_a as_o these_o etc._n p._n 17_o 18_o etc._n etc._n which_o because_o they_o stick_v fast_o to_o we_o as_o he_o think_v for_o any_o thing_n the_o answerer_n have_v say_v must_v come_v over_o again_o in_o another_o place_n and_o therefore_o the_o less_o repetition_n shall_v serve_v now_o sermon_n be_v do_v he_o ask_v whether_o this_o be_v misrepresent_v in_o a_o strict_a and_o proper_a sense_n and_o if_o not_o 34._o p._n 34._o he_o be_v content_v that_o the_o word_n misrepresent_v in_o his_o book_n shall_v not_o be_v take_v so_o i._n