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A10173	Protestants demonstrations, for Catholiks recusance All taken from such English Protestant bishops, doctors, ministers, parlaments, lawes, decrees, and proceedings, as haue beene printed, published, or allowed among them in England; since the cominge of our king Iames into this kingdome: and for the most parte within the first six or seuen yeares thereof. And euidentlie prouinge by their owne writings, that english Catholiks may not vnder damnable syn, co[m]municate with English Protestants, in their seruice, sermons, or matters of religion: and soe conuincinge by the[m]selues, their religio[n] to be most damnable, & among other things, their ministery to bee voide, false & vsurped.	Broughton, Richard, attributed name.	1615 (1615)	STC 20450; ESTC S112509	81,861	158

them Further I argue in this maner Whatsoeuer is confidently taught printed and published by men of Religion is to bee allowed and graunted by all that acknowledg themselues to bee wholly of the same Religion with them in all things essētiall But the hauing of the pure worde preached though essentiall in Religion is yet denyde by these consenting protestants to bee in their church Therfore they must graunt it is wanting with them The maior proposition is euidently true otherwise they should not agree but dissent in essentiall things The minor is thus proued by these agreing protestants M. Iacob one of their agreing protestants writeteh in these words the protestants flocke Iacob Reas pag. 52. pa. 52. 53. Iacob reas episc dedic pag. 51. of England cannot expect that heauen shall bee opened vnto them And thus further The english p●otestant Religion diminisheth the honor and dignitie of Christ impugneth the foundation of sauing faith and is contrary to Gods word And thus againe Christs owne ordinances necessarie to bee enioyed for our soules health are wanting in England t●ere is noe ordinary meanes of saluation Iacob exhor pag. 82. pag 79. 8 to bee had in the english protestant Religion euery man vvanteth the heauenly foode and perseruatiue appointed for vs of God the english protestant church vvanteth the ordinary meanes appointed of God for saluation to euery man Their agreing protestant author of the booke named Aduertisement sp●eking of the errors of their english Aduertisement An. 1604. pag. protestant church writeth thus Millions of millions runne to eternall flames Christianitie is denyed in England by publicke authoritie Their Certaine dem An. 1605. p. 4● thus well agreing Author of certayne demaunds hath these wordes The protestant Religion of England cannot bee kept vvithout breach of the commaundments Therfore the pure word of God is not preached with them their church not true their Religion false noe saluation to bee hoped with them therefore noe communion in Religion to bee yeelded vnto them And this is sufficiently graunted by the protestant Bishops themselues in their publicke Conference at Hampton Court where their behauiour and confession was this as the protestant Author of the first copie ioyned to that of their Bishop Barlowes setteth downe in thes words Canterbury London Winchester fell dovvne on their knees and desired that all things might remayne Conference at Hamptō copie 1. annexed to B. Barlovves printed by Ihōwindet Copie 2 sup least the papists should thinke vvee haue beene in error And this is confirmed by a seconde protestant writer and Copie of that conference in this maner Bishops of Canterburye London and Winchester makinge earnest suite that all things might stand as they did leaste the papists should take offence vvhoe might say vvee vvould persvvad● them to come to a church hauing errors in yt Like is the testimonie of a third Copie 3. protestant Copie followinge in the same place And D. Morton concludeth this matter with this generall protestant Maxime and grounde in their doctrine It is a generall Maxime there is none in the churche vvhose iudgment is of infallible Morton Apol. part 2. pag. 315. authoritie Then an other Maxime is that the protestants church is erroneous hath not true faith for euery article of faith being ●euealed of God is most certaine infallibly true The 4. particular protestant demonstration is because english protestants by their owne testimonies want the due ministration of Sacraments an other thinge alsoe essentiall to the true church by their owne Religion AS I haue proued in the former Chapter that the protestants of England haue not the pure worde of God preached amonge them because by their owne testimonie they haue noe true and lawfull preachers Soe I now demonstrate that they haue not the due ministration of Sacraments because they want a true and lawfull ministery and sacred ministers to administer them for where the due and right Actor and doer of a thinge is not the thinge cannot bee duely righly done because euery externall Action is an emanation or doing of the effect from the agent Secondly I argue thus These protestants haue not sacraments Therfore not sacraments duely ministred The consequence is euidently true for where there is noe action or thinge to bee done there yt cannot bee either dulie or vnduely done because yt can by noe wayes bee done The Antecedent that these protestants haue not sacraments I thus demonstrate from themselues for first they deny fyue of those seuen which the Apostolick Romane church receaueth onely retayning twoe as they themselues affirme that is Baptisme and the Lords supper as they name the moste holy sacrament of the Altar Soe that if but one of these twoe is want●ng with them they cannot bee said to haue sacraments in the plurall number as their definition before containeth but one onely sacrament and if that is either wanting with them or not duely ministred by them they haue none at all duely ministred Now that the blessed sacrament of the altar is wanting in their church I thus demonstrate First because as they acknowledg it is to bee celebrated by a lawfully consecrated preist or minister as some of them rather call him yt selfe beinge a sacrament of greatest consecration and they haue not any such cōsecrated preist or minister in their church therefore this soe sacred and consecrated holy sacrament not being without such consecration and preist is not in their church and their breade and wyne is noe more a sacrament then that which in a tauerne is seet on the table by the drawer of the wine And for this present it is manifestly demonstrated by D. Couell and his priuiledging protestants whoe entreating of lawfully called sacred church preists or ministers hath these words To these parsons God imparted power ouer Couell def of Hook-pa 87. his misticall body which is the societie of soules ouer that naturall which is himselfe for the knittiuge of bothe in one a worke which antiquitie doth call the making of Christs body And in an other booke hee writeth thus The power of the Couell mod exam pag. 105. ministery by blessing visible Elements it maketh them inuisible grace it giueth dayly the holy ghost it hath ●o dispose of that flesh which was giuen for the life life of the worlde and that blood which was powred out tò rèdeme soules Where wee see a diuine and miraculous consecration and grace belonging to both these holy Sacraments of Order to consecrate and the most blessed Eucharist the bodie and blood of Christ to bee consecrated both which as is manifest are wanting in the english protestants church by their owne both practise and writings And to make this matter more euident if it could bee and further confirme that these men want this sacred Order and Sacrament of preisthood to minister this and the other sacraments hee writeth of yt againe in this maner It is a power Couell def sup

Ministery and worship The protestant Authors of the defence of the ministers reasons Defenc● epist dedi● for refusall of subscription tell vs very many points are contrary to the word of God And add in this maner if the Questions bee of noe substance toyes and trifles what meaneth such vrdginge and pressing of t●em and the more s●uere punishing● of the not obseruinge them then of the weightiest matters not of our lawe but of the lavve of God it selfe vv●at meane all those dyuers and lardge treatises dayly published by them that call them trifles in t●eir defence if trifles soe seriously to mayntayne them argueth want of iudgment to knovve vvhat is meete to bee done They might haue added alsoe want of Religion and iustice to denounce soe many seuerall excommunications for things not materiall as before are cited Neither can the condition of these men by any morall iudgment in their owne proceedings bee otherwise for hauing generally by their allowed Articles princes letters patents Statutes and such protestant Consistories vncanonized diuers bookes of holy scriptures condemning diuers of their errors denyed di●●ne traditions the vnwritten worde of God the infallible authoritie and iudgment of generall Councells in matters of faithe the supreame commaunding power of the Apostolicke See of Rome endowed with greatest priuiledges from Christ our Sauiour not regarding the doctrine of the learned primatiue fathers but condemning these and all Churches of Error in Religion and fantastically making their owne priuate spirits erroneous iudgment and deductions from false translations of scriptures They must needs fall to these prophane absurdities of lying deceauing willfull corruptions falsifications and the like vngodly and vnchristian dealings or els manifest and lay open their Heresies and moste straunge innouations to the vewe of the whole worlde euen the moste simple and ignorant whome they haue abused and seduced by such practizes I will onely exemplifie in towe protestant writers D. Willet and M Parkes both writing with priuiledge and publicke allowance one against the other and either of them taxing the other in this kinde of impietie as followeth M. Parkes writing but against one little booke published by this D. Willet named Lymbomastix denyinge the Article of Christs discent into hell hath these words Holy scripture is much Par●es sect 5. 8. pag 14 144 1●9 71. sect 22. 5. 7. abused corrupted and straungely peruerted they intrude into the text the holy scriptures are belyed the scripture abused falsefyed the originall greeke yt selfe clypp●d in citing scriptures words are left out they inuert the scriptures to serue their turne Holy scripture is much abused straungely peruerted notoriously depraued belyed manifestly wrested c. How holy fathers and such authorities are delt with by this doctor in that treatise Parkes sup against lymb p. 70 151 def of 3. test sect 〈…〉 def of 1. 2 test p 2 ● se●t 18 21 p 181. 166. 101. 100. def of 2● place sect 10 11. 20. def of 3. test s●ct 7. 12. 15. 16 c pag. 7. 10 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24 25. pag. 28. def of 1. 2. 3. testim c. Par●●s Apolog sup epist. dedic hee writeth thus Hee condemneth all the auntient fathers for dreamers condemneth all the fathers Hee condemneth all learneb and Godly diui●as for enemies of Christs crosse and bla●p●em●rs of his passion Hee iustifieth m●ste wicke● Hereticks and condemneth moste holy fathers H●e falsely translateth corrupteth indignely han●let● clippeth shamely corrupteth iniuriously han●leth greately abuseth vntruely alleadgeth mayneth mistranslateth much abuseth notably corrupteth c. S. Augustine Origen S. Ambrose S. Chrisostome S. Leo S. Hierome Tertullian S Bernard c. And speaking generally of their protestant writers hee writeth in this maner Euery man maketh Religion the handmayde of his affections Wee may say novv that there are soe many faithes as vvills and soe many doctrines as maners of men vvhiles either vvee vvrite them as vvee list or vnderstand them as vvee please in soe much that many are brought to their vvitts ends not knowinge what to doe Men say they know w●ome to flye but whome to follow they cannot tell This age is the last and worst wherin heresie and infidelitie ioyne and labour to subuert and ouerthrowe all grounds of Christian Religion by their doctrine and life their moste zelous followers are become irreligeous to God irreuerent towards man discentious in opinions disorderous in maners Religion it selfe is brought to a matter of meere dispute and altercation Not without feare leaste it befall vnto vs as it did vnto the builders of babel or to the brethren of Gadines For as the end of scisme is sect 16. heresie soe is the end of heresie Atheisme The profession of the Ghospell is made a cloke wherewith to couer the sowle prophanation of yt Hitherto some testimonies from M. Parkes The Citations of like nature from his Aduersarie protestant D. Willet are too many and tedious in this kinde to bee related Therefore to giue some coniecture of them I will onely sett downe the Title of his booke which followeth in this Willet titu Lordoromast maner Loidoromastix that is a scourge for a Rayler conteyning a full and sufficient Answeare vnto the vnchristian Raylings slaunders vntruthes and other iniurious imputations vented of late by one Richard Parkes ●aster of arts against the Author of Lymbomastix wherein three ●undred Raylings errors contradictions falsisications of fathers corruptions of scripture ●ith other grosse ouersights are obserued out of the saide vncharitable discourse by And●●vv Willet Professor of ●iuinitie Hitherto the onely Title of this priuiledged protestant Booke What stuffe is conteyned in the whole worke of this k●●de and how common a thinge it is for protestant writers to dissemble corrupt falsefie mistranslate mi●apply c. scriptures fathers and other authorities to aduantage their cause by such de●linges may bee iudged by publicke priuiledge and allowance giuen to such writings Therefore I shall lawfully conclude this q●estion with thes words of M. Ormerod concerning● Ormer pict purit g. 4. protestants They fill the margents of their bookes f●ll of places of scripture● in a wrong sence that ●y this meanes ●●ey might more easely deceaue the simple people they ne●ther care for maior minor nor conclusion so● they may say some thinge the● point their mergent with s●amefull abu●nge of scripture And to shew these dealings to bee vsuall nor onely in obscurer places but in their vni●ersi●ie themselues cheef●st places of learninge amonge ●●em in the epistle dedicatorie of the same worke hee writeth thus There is a straunge maner of preaching Ormer sup pict pur● epist. d●●ic in vse in many places ●othe in t●e vniuersities and els w●ere 〈◊〉 t●ough th● pu●pit were but a s●●●●olde in which the prea●●er like a Mast●r ●ss●nce were to play his prizes and as though the scripture were but a rattle for Children and fooles to make sporte withall hee tosseth it hither and thither and will not sayle to

the pretended english Bishops made either by vertue of the Queenes letters patents or commission as the wordes of the statute bee as kinge Edward made Ihon of Alasco or by the new toyeish booke of ordination or otherwise and their ministery deriued from them is voide ridiculous and vsurped none at all But before I conclude this Chapter because I meruaile more then vrgent occasions mouinge me with what colour of reason or least shewe of common ciuilitie this false adulterate vnsacrificing pretended ministery foretold by that badge of taking away the publick sacrifice and making them preists that are mere lay men by that Holy Bishop S. Methodius about 1400. yeares agoe wa●ranted by M. Iames the protestant in his booke of english manuscripts and doe vnconscionably persecute the churche of Rome especiall the preisthood thereof and yett claime honor their pretended ministery from thence I humbly craue leaue of his Maiestie my moste honored Lordes and other temporall Rulers in authoritie that as I haue confuted the vayne pretences of these men and demonstratiuely proued by our greatest aduersaries the dignitie of our moste holy consecration soe in one protestant Argument I may proue the absurditie and p●rill of protestants clayming from Rome And thus I argue All men borne within this Realme or any other dominions vnder the Regiment of Queene Elizabeth An 27. Eli. cap. 2. in the 27. yeare of her raigne and ●ynce the feastè of the natiuitie of S. Ihon Baptist in the first yeare of her raigne made preists deacons or religeous or ecclesiasticall parsons made or ordeyned by any authoritie power or iurisdiction deriued challenged or pretended from the See of Rome are Traytors and guiltie of high treason And euery parson Wittnigly and willingly that receaue releeue comfort ayde or mayntaine any such preist deacon religeous or ecclesiasticall parson being at libertie as all saying seruice in their churches bee ●● to bee adiuged a felone without benefite of clargie and suffer death lose and forfaite as in case of one attainted of felonye But all protestant english Bishops and Ministers as their Doctors before haue told vs were soe made by authoritie and power and ordination deriued chalenged and pretended by them from the See of Rome and aboue fi●e monethes synce that feast of Saint Ihon Baptist in the moneth of December followinge when Matthew Parker their first protestant Archbishop was made their Sutcliff ag ●●ll ●a 4. 5. Archbishop and first minister maker by authotie and power from the See of Rome as D. Suttcliffe D. Feild M. Mason the present protestant Feild sup Mason epi. ded in cōsec of Matthew Park An. 2. Elizab. c Archbishop of Canterbury his director Encourager and others doe testifie Therefore all english ministers by them bee traytors and all reliuers receauers comforters ayders maintainers or wittingly and willingly communicating with them as their wiues children all goinge to their seruice or sermons bee felons and to suffer death lose and forfaite as in such case Both propositions bee confessed by these protestants for true and vndoubted the first being the expresse wordes of their parlamen● and highest commaundinge lawe in the seauen and twentieth yeare of Queene Stat. an 27. Eliz. cap. 2. Stat parla 1. Iacob c Elizabeth and confirmed in the first parlament of his maiestie The second proposition is the generall doctrine of their protestant Archbishops Bishops and Doctors at this present as is proued before And if any man of singularitie amonge them shall deny yt hee incurreth the former inconuenience to desminister and vnbishop all their soe named english protestant Bishops and ministers and make them to bee onely by the makinge of a woman Queene Elizabeth which marred many but could make none as these protestants haue demonstrated before If any man obiect that all Obiect such ordained preists deacons or ecclesiasticall parsons by takinge the oath of supreamacie and liuing accordinge to their protestant Religion and lawes in England are excepted by speciall prouision of that statute and that the ministers of England takinge that oathe when Book● of Ordin in ord Deacōs c they are made deacons as appeareth in their Rituall of soe named consecration and soe strictly obseruing the protestant Religion that they persecute the contrary are by this meanes exempt●d I answeare there is noe such prouision or exemption for such men in that sta●u●● But the exemption there onely concerneth ●eare and enfraunchizeth catholicke preists that then were come into England and had the time of fourt●e dayes to depart or such as should after come into England and within three dayes soe as they terme yt conforme themselues and noe others for euidence whe●●●f the very wordes of that prouision and 〈◊〉 bee these that followe Prouided 〈◊〉 that this Ast shall not extend to any such Ie● 〈◊〉 ●eminariè preist or other such preist deacon 〈◊〉 Religeous or ecclesiasticall parson as is before mentioned as shall at any time wit● in the said ●ourtie daies or within three dayes after that hee shall hereafter come into this Realme or any other her ●ighnes dominions submit himselfe to some Archbishop Bishop of this Realme or to some Iustice of peace within the countie where hee shall arriue or lande and doe there vpon truely and sincerely before the same Archbishop Bishop or suche Iustice of peace take the said oathe sett forthe in Anno p●imo and by writinge vnder his hand confesse ackno●ledge and from thence foorth continue his due obedience vnto highne● lawes c. Hitherto the exemption of their lawe which by noe meanes possible can bee applyed to their english ministers none of them being in either of those onely two exempted cases Therfore neither by the lawes of God or this kingdome it can bee lawfull to communicate with english ministers in their seruice and Religion without extreame capitall and damnable perill by their owne testimonies M. Speed Theat pag. 421. Speed addeth all communicating with maried preists are excommunicated by generall Councell The 3. particular Protestant Demonstration for Catholicks iust Recusancie is Because the not preaching of the word of God a thinge essentiall to the true church of Cbrist in Protestant doctrine is not amonge them by their owne testimonies AND by this it is euident that they haue not the other two protestant Notes and properties of the true church preaching of the Articu 19. puer worde ōf God and sacraments duely ministred in the congregation of faithfull men for as the sacraments cannot bee duely ministred wher● there bee not due Ministers of them soe the puer word of God cannot possibly lawfully and truely bee preached without preachers of yt for sacraments duly ministred and due ministers of them as alsoe the word of God truely preached and true preachers of yt bee correlatiues which mutuò se ponunt aufferunt come and goe together as logitians and reason teach vs. Therfore S. Paule knowing how vnpbssible a thinge it is

dostrine as hee propou●ded them and M. Foxe maintaineth them Some of them as they were propounded by Tyndall Foxe to 2. mon. in Tyndall first edition and maintayned by Foxe doe followe in these words The lawe maketh vs to hate God It is vnpossible for vs to consent to the will of God The lawe requireth vnpossible thinges of vs. Speaking of mā he speaketh thus Christ is in thee thou in him knitt together vnseperably neither cast thou bee dāned except Christ be dāned with thee neither can Christ bee saued except thou bee saued with him Euery man is Lord of other mens goods I am bounde to loue the Turke with all my might and power yea and aboue my power There is noe worke better then an other to please God to make water to was he dishes to bee a Sowter or an Apostle all is one to washe dishes and to preache is all one touching the deed to please God To worshipp God otherwise then to beleeue that hee is Iust and true in his promises is to make God an I d●ll God moued the hartes of the Egiptians to hate the people likewise hee moued kings Paule was of higher Authoritie then Peter Yf S. Paule were alyue I would compare my selfe to S. Paule and bee as good as hee The children of faithe are vnder noe lawe God bindeth vs to that which is vnpossible for vs to accomplishe synne cannot condemne vs. Soe longe as the Successors of the Apostles were persecuted and martyred there were good christian men and noe longer All these and other such damnable positions are mayntayned in one place of this protestant Doctors booke dedicated to his maiestie appoynted to bee written by their Archbishop D. Bancroft and published with common priuiledge Wherevppon and from such like proceedings the protestant Author of the booke named Aduertisement speaking of the errors of this their english protestant Religion writeth thus Millions of millions runne to eternall flames Christianitie is denyed in England by Aduertisem●●t An. 1604. publicke Authoritie Of other their heresies hellish errors and damnable deuises against the authoritie Reg●ll and cyuill power of Princes and such morall affaires I will entreate hereafter in the meane time I add these protestant positions registred by M. Ormerod in these Ormerod dial 1. wordes All synnes are equall it is as greate a synne to doe any seruile worke vppon the sabboth day as to doe murther and committ adultery it is as greate a synne to throwe a boul● on the sabboath day as to kill a man It is as greate a syn to kill a mans cocke as to kill his Seruant Their Bishop of Winchester D. Bilson setteth Bilsō Suru pag. 467. downe other their straunge errors in this maner the protestants cleare not Christ from synne it was rife in the pulpitts and vsuall in Catechismes that the death of Christ Iesus on the Bils pr●f sup crosse and his blood sh●dd for the remission of our syns were the leaste cause and meane of our Redemption And reciting further these protestants p. 466. 474. def pag. 126 122. Bilson sup pa. 490 def p. 134. Bils p. 496. 486. def pa. 131. 136 Bils p. 497. 503. def pa. 137. 138. Bils p. 515. def pa. 141. Bils p. 517. def pag. 142. Parkes epis dedicat pag. 139. sect 20. Povvell l. de diaphor ep d●●icat Parkes apol epist. dedic doctrines thus relateth them Christs will was contrary to Gods will Christ in his agonie knevv not Gods will Christ was forsaken both in bodie soule Christ suffered hell Torments Christ suffered the paynes of hell Christ suffered the death of the soule the death of the soule is such paynes and sufferings of Gods wrathe as allwayes accompanie them that are seperated from the grace and loue of God God did forsake Christ Thus our most blessed Sauiour Redeemer of mankinde consequently both Christians and all mankinde is damned with him by these blasphemous protestāts M. Parkes hath told vs that the parson of Christ is prophanely irreligeously spoken of the scripture is falsefyed to fastē blasphemie vpon Christ heauen hell the diuinity humanity yea the verie soule and saluation of Christ our Sauiour himselfe is called in questiō M. Powell hath published with publicke allowāce in his booke printed by Robert Barker the kings printer this doctrine To holde that Christ was a lawe maker is an insolent pseudographema false scripture M. Parkes againe complaineth thus The Creede it selfe which hath allwayes beene the verie badge and Cognizance vvhereby to discerne and know the faithfull from vnbeleeuers Christians from heathens and Catholicks from hereticks is the mayne point in questiō Which is cōfirmed by their Bishop Barlowe in his sermon before the kinge Barl ●erm septem 21 An 1606. in these wordes The whelps of those beasts are multiplied vvith vs in England of which S. Paule speaketh 1. Cor. 15. 32. vvhich made a lest of the soules immortaliti● and the bodies resurrestion Therefore seing these bee the moste materiall D. George Abb. against D. Hill p. 101. essentiall and fundamentall points in Religion and their present protestant Archbishop hath peremptorily told vs. protestants and puritanes did neuer differ in any point of substance wee all ioyne in all materiall points of saluation and noe Goliath against vs can proue the contrary And Povvell ag epis apol pag. 52. M. Powell saith Hee lyeth which saith they differ in substantiall points they are all guiltie of these heresies The 7. particular protestant demonstration for Catholicks iust recusancie is Because English protestants by their owne writings are Scismaticks FVRTHER that these english protestants are Scismaticks and soe by that title alsoe not to bee communicated with in spirituall things is manifest by that which is written before and more directly in this order followinge Noe Scismaticks are to bee communicated with in Religeous matters But the protestants of England by their owne testimonies are Scismaticks Therefore not to bee communicated with in such busines The maior proposition is euidently true and before graunted by these protestans for this time I will therefore onely cite their Bishop of Peterborough D. Doue his words bee these This proposition noe hereticks nor Scismaticks are to bee communicated Doue persuas pag. withall is vndoubtedly true because it is grounded vppon scripture c. The minor proposition that english protestants bee Scismaticks is proued by this their owne definition of Scisme published by D. Feild in this maner Scisme is a Feild l. 3. c. 5. pa. 70. breache of the vnitie of the churche the vnitie of the church consisteth in three things First the subiection of the people to their lawfull pastors Secondly the connexion and communion wich many particular churches and the pastors of them haue amonge themselues Thirdly in holdinge the same Rule of faith Then if Scisme is a breache of the vnitie of the church and this vnitie consisteth in three things and

they were noe Bishops being of necessitie either made by a woman which they confesse could not doe yt or by the pretended Bishops of kinge Edwards makinge vtterly alsoe as before condemned by lawe and the Iudges themselues And yett of thes twoe ab●urdities that which was the worst and moste absurde to bee made by a woman vncapable must needs bee their case For the new Booke of cōsecr statu An. 3. Ed 6. ca 12. Stat. 1. Mar. Booke of Article● of Religion 1562 articul 36. Stat. An. 8. Elizab. c. 1. forme and fashion of making pretended Bishops and preists in the time of the child kinge Edward the sixt abolished by Queene Mary was neuer reuiued by the english protestants vntill their booke of Articles made in the fourth or fift yeare of Queene Elizabeth made in their conuocation consisting as before is euident onely of lay men without authoritie receaued yt and was neuer allowed by parlament vntill this in the eight yeare of Queene Elizabeth Soe that by noe possibilitie thes after Acts if they had beene powerable in religeous causes the contrary whereof is euident could make soe many yeares before pretended and vnlawfull Acts and consecrations now to bee true and lawfull Therefore thes pretended protestant Bishops and Ministers can by noe power by their owne proceedings bee lawfull wanting both true forme matter maner men ordering and the Acts and Cōc Floren. in ●niō will apud ●arkes p. 137. 180. Park ib. ●il● sur● p. ●2 mort pa 2 Apol. p. 340 l. 4 c. 18 Relat. ca. 47 ●eild p. 202. 218. functions themselues as is before proued and ●ppeareth by the councell of ●lorence which D. Wille● M. Parkes and others allow for generall which D. Bil●on D. Mo●ton their Relator of Religi●n and D. Feild assure vs hath supreame power and authoritie to commaund all whomsoeuer to obey the definitions thereof Neither need I appeale to generall councells though their graunt in this Question for by their owne parl●ments Articles common writings and publicke doctrine yt is more then euident that their pretended Bishops by whome their ministers and other pretended Bishops bee made bee noe more Bishops then their ordina●y ministers none at all noe more then all lay men bee noe more nor soe much as kinge Edward 6. a child Q. Elizabeth a woman and our present and euer of mee moste honored kinge Iames were or is by their proceedings which is thus made euident by their owne Religion Euery distinct order hath some really and essentially distinct Act and office to execute which others from which it is distinguished haue not nor can performe But the pretended callinge of protestant Bishops in England by their owne proceedings hath noe such really and essentially distinct Act or office Therefore by their ow●e Religion it is noe distinct order The m●ior proposition is euidently true for euery dist●●ct Order power facultie or habilitie spirituall or other is soe knowne and distinguished The minor proposition is thus proued by themselues For whereas our Pontificall and scholes ascribe to episcopall Order Pōtifical in Ord. Sacer. ep●schol insacr ord in 3. p. d. Th. c. Articles of Relig. Artie sacram c thes Acts to cōsecrate Christne giue twoe sacraments Orders and confirmation thes protestants by their publick Articles and practice both deny all thes and yett ascribe noe other peculiar Act or office to their pretended Bishops make ministers and confirme children I answeare they deny both them to bee Sacraments and soe hauing noe misticall consecration but being onely ceremonies may bee vsed by men noe Bishops and soe in all protestants Presbyteries pretended ministers allowed by them are made by onely ministers and where the ceremonie of confirmation is allowed by protestants out of England it is al soe ministred by onely ministers and if thes doe not giue grace effectually as they say it is not necessarie to appoinct a distinct order for their ministration Soe there is now nothing left for thes pretended Bishops but pretended iurisdiction but this is from the kinge that is Queene Elizabeth and kinge Edward 6. before supreame in this busines and soe by their Religion more truely and better Bishops then Ridley Parker Whiteguift or any of that pretended calling And as the pretended Commissioners Stat. Ed. 6. Stat. An. 1. Eliz. cap. 1. Foxe tom 2 in Ed. 6. Eliz. Holin supr c. of kinge Edward and Q. Elizabeth related by their Statutes Foxe Hollinshed others withall power from them to reforme Religion were in thes mens doctrine more worthie the name of Bishops then they which haue that name but want that office power Soe his maiestie in their Religion by his supreamacie inspirituall things may by his letters patents and commission not onely with kinge Edward and Q Elizabeth authorize his Foxe in Ed v. in B. Card Stowe Hollinsh Speed c. An. 1 Eliza in histor lay Councellors and mere temporall men to Iudge depriue and depose Bishops but to bee allowed for Bishops Archbishops and higher patriarkes without any consecration or other ceremony They which gaue this power to Q. Elizabeth and our Soueraigne were onely lay men and neither any of them in particul●r or all in generall equall vnto him that is supreame Therefore it is his power by their doctrine at his pleasure without any ministers concurrence or consent to take order and neuer more neede then when their Religion is become a mockery of all true Religion in thes affaires and to make any the meanest subiect without any im●osing of handes speaking or prayer ouer him or other complement in such busines greater in callinge and dignitie then hee that beareth the name Archbishop primate of all England amonge them But the present soe named Archbishop of Obiect Canterbury director of M. Mason and his directed scholler perhaps will say that allthough D. Sutcliffe and too many others to bee cited and the said soe called Archbishop himselfe in and at other places and times for their adnantage and to serue their turne doe teach affirme as a matter of faith that the Pope is Antichrist noe true Bishop preist or maker of such yett in this their worke asscribed to M. Mason they confesse the contrary and therein they affirme that one of their pretended Consecrators Barlowe was a true Bishop and made by Romane or true catholick Consecration in the time of kinge Henry 8. And soe in time of necessitie such as their begynning was might make a Bishop Alas I cannot tell how to make Answ answeare to this obiection or rather petition not for any difficultie conteyned in yt But for feare of offence in speaking truth and giuinge the lye to soe many protestant Bishops and Doctors before soe confidently telling vs they doe not differ in any essentiall or materiall point of Religion such as this is But put into this perplexitie I must vse this Dilemma if their first opinion That the Pope is Antichrist and cannot

things that which is directly opposite and contrary to their owne Conscience and iudgment in Religion Therefore to proceede in my first intended purpose and proposition I argue in this maner Noe men which by their owne testimonies and writings doe generally dislike or disallowe of the temporall princes supreamacie in spirituall and ecclesiasticall Causes and in straunge and danigerous order can or may in conscience by oathe and swearinge allowe yt But this is the common estate of english protestants by their owne confessions published in writinge Therefore they cannot in conscience sweare to the oathe of supreamacie in temporall princes or allowe yt for true doctrine The maior proposition is euidently true for in soe dyinge they are periured and forsworne and in a matter of highe moment And all periury is damnable And soe noe spirituall communication to bee had with such men in such matters or in things daungerous vnto or against Regalitie or lawfull regiment allowed by the lawe of God and true Religion The minor proposition that protestants in England are in this condition is thus proued by their owne Testimonies The protestant author of the booke named Certaine demaundes writeth in these words The protestant Bishops doe not attributie Cert demaund An 1605. p. 54 any more spirituall authoritie v●to the Kinge to make constitute and ordeyne Canons Constitutions Rites or Ceremonies then they giue vnto him spiritual povver to preache the vvorlde adminis●er the sacraments and excommunicate But the articles of their Religion confirmed and thus published by his maiestie resolueth this matter in these wordes Wee giue not to our Articles of Relig. ar 37 Prince the ministrings either of Gods vvorde or of the sacraments the vvhich thinge the iniunctions also● sometime sett forth by Elizabeth our late Queene doe moste plainely testifie Therefore as the Conclusion before is The protestants of England cannot by their owne doctrine without periury sweare to the kings supreamacie Therefore parlamentarie pro●estants and puritans alsoe holdinge this opinion against the kings supreamacie and yett for preferment or other carnall respects hauing sworne vnto yt are periured and forsworne in a damnable degree And thus by this title the pretended ministery of England is a periured Ministery by their owne writings Againe I argue in this maner whatsoeuer Ministery claymeth their callinge to bee by lawe diuine diuinae ordinationis doe by the doctrine of english protestants deny the kings supreamacie But both the parlament protestants and puritanes thus clayme their callinge of ministery Therefore by their owne doctrine deny the kings supreamacie The maior proposition is proued by the protestant author of the booke named Certaine Considerations in these wordes if the english protestants Cert consider pa. 46. opinion bee mayntayned that Bishops iurisdiction is de iure diuino his maiestie and all the nobilitie ought to bee subiect to excommunication Therefore by this protestant reason the kinge is not supreame for hee that is supreame or superior cannot be excommunicated by the inferior which hath not power ouer the supe-superior much lesse ouer him that is supreame Againe hee that is supreame is subiect to none because not inferior but aboue commaundinge all Yett here the kinge is both named subiect and Censured as an inferior and to that penance and punishment soe greuous that the protestant author of Assertion thus expresseth Assertion An. 1604. pag. 326. it inflicted on princes by their supreamacies Excommunication is terrible to princes and rulers a delyuery of the soule to sathan punishment of the bodie and daunger of go●ds Excommunication is soe powerfull as it can constreyne princes and rulers to doe their duties M. Ormerod alsoe remembreth this protestant doctrine Ormer dial 1. in these words princes ought to submitt themselues to the Seniors of the church they ought to be cōtēt to be ruled gouerned punished corrected excōmunicated by their discretiō at their pleasur Then whether these protestāts can in cōscience sweare to the kings supreamacie as they haue done or sweare an oathe soe much concerning their Bishops presbitery as the named Oathe of alledgeance cōcerneth the Popes prerogatiue and whether it is more reasonable for any one temporall prince to acknowledge The Bishop of the cheefest Apostolicke See whome all Catholicke princes of Christendome and the church of Christ euer acknowledged for their supreame spirituall pastor and gouernor to bee alsoe vnto him as hee is and euer was to all his progen●tors kings and other princes or singularly with soe manifest daunger against scriptures councels fathers histories and all authorities and examples to make himselfe his soule bodie life and goods as before subiect and at the pleasure of his subiects euery pretended Bishop in his dioces and euery Minister of the presbyterie in his parishe or diuision I leaue these for others to conclude onely I add that these protestants by this their claymed superiority ouer princes haue within lesse then fourtie yeares disinherited depriued and spoyled more temporall princes of their lawfull territories and dominions as is proued against them by a Catholicke writer of our nation Then the Pope by any prerogatiue title Moder Answ ca. 8. c. 9. See the protestants there cited or clayme with the consent of kingdomes hath taken vpon him to alter the Regiment of temporall kinges from the first begynning of Christianitie to these dayes But more of this matter hereafter The minor proposition that both the protestant Bishops now and the presbiterie clayme their callings Iure diuino by the law of God and not from the prince is euidently proued before And manifest in probation of the first proposition For the lawes of this land and wee admitt noe others are soe far from making it the office and power of any Bishop presbiterie parson or societie whatsoeuer ●o excommunicate their prince delyuer his soule to Sathan punish his bodie on daunger his goods constreyne rule gouerne correct and punish him at their discretion and pleasure as their owne words before bee that the very conspiring or consenting vnto such things is a state of high Treason and greatest offence to lawe in this kingedome Therefore they must blasphemousely clayme as they doe other things from the lawe o● God noe other in force here as before Then I may say with their owne protestant writer in these words The kinges supreamacie is fallen Certaine cōsideratiōs An. 1605. pag. 47. downe and ouerthrowne in the moste daungerous degree by the english protestant proceedings And this might suffice for this purpose demonstratiuely prouing what I promised But I argue further in this maner Whoeseuer doe not onely say that the protestant Bishops or presbiterie haue the supreamacie in spirituall things and kings haue nothing therein to deale but must submitt their scepters and Crowns lose their Royaltie cease to bee kings not to bee obeyed to bee deposed vnthroned bereaued of all power and principalitie c. as the protestant ministery shall please or denownce