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A09103 A discussion of the ansvvere of M. VVilliam Barlovv, D. of Diuinity, to the booke intituled: The iudgment of a Catholike Englishman liuing in banishment for his religion &c. Concerning the apology of the new Oath of allegiance. VVritten by the R. Father, F. Robert Persons of the Society of Iesus. VVhervnto since the said Fathers death, is annexed a generall preface, laying open the insufficiency, rayling, lying, and other misdemeanour of M. Barlow in his writing. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.; Coffin, Edward, 1571-1626. 1612 (1612) STC 19409; ESTC S114157 504,337 690

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have_v hearken_v unto_o it_o and_o much_o less_o agree_v and_o subject_a themselves_o to_o ●ake_v it_o or_o allow_v it_o to_o other_o to_o be_v either_o propose_v or_o take_v well_o then_o what_o say_v m._n barlow_n to_o this_o conclusion_n certes_o he_o seek_v so_o say_v many_o thing_n but_o so_o far_o from_o the_o purpose_n that_o he_o true_o may_v be_v say_v to_o say_v nothing_o he_o set_v down_o clause_n of_o my_o speech_n with_o his_o answer_n thus_o first_o quoth_v i_o there_o be_v no_o partycule_a form_n of_o a_o oath_n put_v down_o in_o the_o council_n and_o consequent_o this_o new_a form_n can_v not_o be_v take_v from_o that_o he_o answer_v can_v a_o oath_n be_v keep_v which_o be_v not_o first_o take_v but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o the_o spaniard_n do_v take_v a_o oath_n to_o their_o king_n or_o not_o for_o that_o be_v grant_v but_o whether_o the_o form_n of_o the_o oath_n be_v like_a to_o this_o of_o we_o and_o yet_o as_o though_o he_o have_v answer_v to_o the_o purpose_n he_o go_v forward_o to_o prove_v that_o a_o oath_n be_v take_v it_o appear_v say_v he_o in_o the_o canon_n i●_n self_n that_o all_o of_o they_o have_v take_v a_o 〈◊〉_d the_o state_n decree_v it_o 220._o the_o subject_n of_o all_o sort_n take_v be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d enjoin_v the_o inviolable_a performance_n thereof_o so_o then_o a_o oath_n there_o was●_n that_o be_v without_o question_n and_o a_o form_n it_o ●ad_v i●_n not_o set_v down_o i●_n 〈◊〉_d council_n what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o point_n speak_v true_o sir_n nothing_o at_o all_o as_o be_v neither_o this_o your_o prove_v of_o that_o which_o be_v not_o deny_v but_o it_o have_v be_v much_o to_o the_o point_n to_o prove_v that_o that_o form_n and_o this_o form_n have_v be_v a_o like_a and_o so_o the_o one_o confirm_v by_o the_o other_o which_o you_o attempt_v not_o at_o all_o to_o do_v and_o yet_o i_o pray_v thou_o good_a reader_n see_v here_o how_o he_o brag_v immediate_o 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c●prian●_n judgement_n of_o su●h_a as_o die_v out_o o●_n the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d l_o 4_o 〈…〉_z 17._o au●ust_n 〈◊〉_d 2d_o 4._o ad_fw-la donat●_n a_o notable_a sentence_n of_o s._n augustine_n a_o ●ard_a cesure_n against_o all_o the_o ●abble_n of_o i●●n_a fox_n his_o martyr_n a_o convince_a argument_n upon_o th●_n premi●●s_n the_o hard_a ●ase_n of_o q._n elizabe_v a_o remarkable_a comparison_n q._n elizabeth_n hold_v condemn_v heresy_n haeresi_fw-la 53._o aug._n l._n 9_o conf●●●_n c._n 13._o s._n monica_n desire_v to_o be_v pray_v for_o at_o the_o altar_n after_o her_o death_n which_o q._n elizabeth_n do_v not_o lett._n p._n 36._o see_v answer_n to_o sir_n edw._n cook_n c._n 15._o his_o majesty_n mild_a disposition_n divert_v the_o exercise_n of_o the_o minister_n t._n montague_n barl._n pag._n 102._o malicious_a contradiction_n barl._n pag._n 103._o m._n barlow_n a_o true_a parasite_n barl._n pag●_n 102._o about_o the_o nature_n of_o flattery_n &_o how_o sy●_n william_n demean_v himself_o therein_o augu._n in_o 〈◊〉_d 69._o m._n barlow_n a_o egregious_a flatterer_n m._n barlow_v prayer_n without_o hope_n luc._n 10._o 21._o flatter_v of_o his_o majesty_n barl_n p._n 105._o sir_n willi●m_n deserve_v his_o fee._n about_o the_o little_a university_n these_o be_v a_o other_o manner_n of_o university_n act._n ●●_o s._n athan●sius_n epist._n ad_fw-la solitari●m_fw-la vitam_fw-la agentes_fw-la s._n gregor_n nazian_n s._n ambrose_n nazian_n orat_fw-la ad_fw-la ●ives_n timore_fw-la perculsos_fw-la ambros._n epist_n 33._o ad_fw-la sororem_fw-la s._n chrysostome_n s._n hierome_n s._n aug●stine_n s._n gregory_n m._n barlow_v division_n of_o sycophancy_n miracle_n ●●●d●d_a and_o contemn_v m._n barl._n a_o good_a proctor_n for_o the_o turk_n &_o infidel_n the_o miracle_n of_o s._n denys_n the_o miracle_n of_o s._n clement_n m_o barl._n turn_v a_o anchor_n into_o a_o millstone_n of_o s._n gregory_n thaumaturgus_n m._n barlow_v foolery_n sixtus_n quartus_fw-la bely_v barl._n pag._n ●08●_n base_a babble_n chelsey_n erection_n for_o writer_n bar●_n pag._n 112._o m._n barlow_n add_v to_o the_o text_n a_o most_o reasonable_a and_o modest_a request_n of_o the_o cath._n simple_n &_o impertinent_a reason_n of_o m._n barlow_n let._n p._n 38._o in_o vita_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ●un●i_fw-la anno_fw-la 1●46_n liberty_n of_o conscience_n demand_v by_o all_o protestant_n ●_o psal._n 113._o 113._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d height_n of_o pride_n and_o in_o who_o it_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v barl._n pag._n 110._o strange_a note_n of_o humility_n set_v down_o b●_n m._n barl●w_n m._n barlow_n betray_v his_o own_o cause_n barl._n ibidem_fw-la the_o protestant_n have_v ecclesiastical_a power_n over_o puritan_n 1._o joan._n 2._o in_o what_o case_n catholic_n may_v yield_v and_o grant_v toleration_n to_o protestant_n matth._n 13._o m._n barlow_n at_o a_o nonplus_n unkind_a deal_n indeed_o barl._n pag._n 124._o m._n barlow●_n moderate_a &_o direct_a prot●●t●nt_n m._n barlow_n belie_v f._n person_n psal._n 5●_n barl._n pag._n 142._o strange_a impudence_n baseness_n and_o beggary_n of_o protestant_n theol._n tigurin_n in_o prafat_n apol_n prafix_n orthodox_n c●n._n anno_fw-la 1578._o lib._n 2._o the_o rat_n ineund●_n concordiae_fw-la p._n 2._o &_o 24._o protestant_n and_o puritan_n differ_v in_o substantial_a point_n of_o religion_n roger_n pr●f●●e_n pag._n 9_o arrige_fw-la aures_fw-la sir_n william_n m._n barlow_n a_o bad_a advocate_n m._n barlow_n in_o the_o brake_n amb._n ep_n 33._o ba●l_n pag._n ●69_n a_o hard_a argument_n for_o m._n barlow_n to_o solve_v silly_a stuff_n m._n barlow_v li●le_a care_n of_o his_o majesties_n eternal_a life_n good_a &_o evil_a prince_n to_o be_v obey_v for_o conscience_n but_o not_o against_o conscience_n barlow_n pag._n 160._o m._n barlow_n have_v the_o conscience_n of_o a_o ass_n &_o a_o wolf_n a_o strange_a &_o wicked_a assertion_n of_o m._n barlow_n 1._o 2._o q._n 19_o art_n 5._o the_o goodness_n of_o the_o act_n of_o our_o will_n do_v depend_v upon_o our_o reason_n and_o judgement_n a_o sin_n to_o do_v contrary_a to_o a_o erroneous_a conscience_n what_o i●_n to_o be_v ●one_n of_o he_o who_o ha●h_v a_o erroneous_a conscience_n ●_o tim._n 1._o m._n barlowes_n monstrous_a doctrine_n more_o fit_v the_o turk_n alcoran_n then_o the_o gospel_n of_o jesus_n christ._n s._n paul_n abuse_v more_o contemn_v in_o the_o oath_n then_o civil_a obedience_n let._n p._n 51._o apol._n pag._n 22._o hi●r_n 27._o 12._o exod._n 5.1_o esdr._n 1.3_o dan._n 3.12_o no_o obedience_n against_o god_n &_o a_o man_n conscience_n deu._n 1._o 〈◊〉_d 1._o ●_o mach._n 1._o barl._n pag._n 161._o a_o strange_a assertion_n weak_a proof_n a_o simple_a discourse_n barl._n pag._n 168._o the_o fact_n of_o toby_n against_o the_o commandment_n of_o k._n senacherib_n tob._n 2._o v._n 9_o tob._n 12._o m._n barlow_n a_o bad_a angel_n the_o credit_n of_o the_o history_n of_o toby_n c●c_fw-la tri●_n sess_v 4._o carth._n can_v 47._o aug._n 2._o de_fw-fr doc_fw-fr 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epist_n 33._o amb._n ibid._n ambros._n con●_n de_fw-fr basili●●s_fw-fr non_fw-la traden●●●s_fw-la m._n barlowes_n shift_v answer_n to_o the_o three_o place_n of_o s._n ambrose_n feminine_a supremacy_n more_o esteem_v of_o m._n barlow_n then_o masculine_a barlow_n pag._n 171._o magdeb._n cent_n 4._o c._n 5._o 6._o &_o 7._o the_o ancient_a use_n of_o hallow_v church_n vessel_n naz._n orat_fw-la de_fw-fr s●ipso_fw-la contra_fw-la arianos_fw-la m._n barlow_v decline_v in_o the_o point_n of_o supremacy_n stat._n h._n 8._o anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1535._o the_o supremacy_n how_o it_o be_v give_v to_o k●_n henry_n &_o in_o what_o high_a measure_n k._n edwar●_n a_o 1_o e_z 6._o cap._n 2._o queen_n elizabeth_n m._n barlow_v judgement_n about_o the_o king_n supreme_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n m._n barlow_v fumble_v m._n barlow_v absurd_a distinction_n &_o division_n m._n barlow_v delusion_n m._n barlow_n have_v mar_v the_o market_n of_o the_o king_n supremacy_n lett._n p._n 56._o apolog._n pag._n 24._o how_o s._n gregory_n agree_v to_o the_o publish_n of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o emperor_n ●auritius_fw-la greg._n l._n 2._o epist._n 65._o indict_v 11._o greg._n lib._n 7._o epist._n 1●_n indict_v 1._o barl._n pag._n 173._o mauritius_n his_o law_n no●_n altogether_o ecclesiastical_a how_o the_o emperor_n law_n be_v ecclesiastical_a a_o good_a consideration_n a_o fond_a cavil_n pag._n 174._o barl._n pag._n 174._o a_o ridiculous_a error_n in_o grammar_n of_o m._n barlow_n letter_n pag._n ●8_o conc_fw-fr arel_n sub_fw-la carol._n can._n 26._o vi●e_v in_o capitularibus_fw-la franc._n lib._n 6._o c._n 285._o de_fw-fr concilio_n worma●_n wherein_o the_o council_n or_o arles_n do_v submit_v itself_o to_o the_o emperor_n emperor_n can._n 2._o 2._o can._n 3._o 3._o can._n 4._o 4._o can._n 7._o &_o 8._o 8._o can._n 13●_n 13●_n can._n 15._o &_o 16._o 16._o can._n 20._o 22._o 23._o the_o zeal_n of_o charl●_n the_o great_a to_o have_v manner_n reform_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o 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foolish_a wrangle_n of_o m._n