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A70515 Of the incurable scepticism of the Church of Rome; De insanabili romanae Ecclesiae scepticismo. English La Placette, Jean, 1629-1718.; Tenison, Thomas, 1636-1715. 1688 (1688) Wing L429; Wing T705; ESTC R13815 157,482 172

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another_o place_n 1._o place_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 1._o the_o old_a roman_a breviany_n rom._n breviany_n cùm_fw-la doleret_fw-la eusebius_n liberium_fw-la papam_fw-la arianae_n haeresi_fw-la consensisse_fw-la breviar_n rom._n in_o the_o festival_n of_o st._n eusebius_n the_o confessor_n say_v liberius_n consent_v to_o the_o arian_n heresy_n to_o these_o produce_v by_o launoy_n i_o shall_v add_v three_o other_o philostorgius_n 3._o philostorgius_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d philost_a l._n 4._o c._n 3._o affirm_v that_o liberius_n and_o
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the_o ready_a way_n be_v to_o choose_v some_o out_o of_o every_o order_n and_o kind_n of_o ecclesiastic_n in_o every_o province_n and_o christian_a nation_n holden_n 9_o holden_n ut_fw-la tot_fw-la variarum_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la in_o diversis_fw-la regnis_fw-la &_o provinciis_fw-la sitarum_fw-la pars_fw-la aliqua_fw-la seu_fw-la numerus_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la deputetur_fw-la &_o intersit_fw-la hold._n anal._n fid_fw-we lib._n 1._o cap._n 9_o require_v that_o some_o part_n or_o number_n of_o bishop_n may_v be_v depute_v out_o of_o divers_a kingdom_n and_o province_n and_o be_v present_a in_o the_o council_n on_o the_o contrary_a salmeron_n 77._o salmeron_n qui_fw-la legitimè_fw-la impediti_fw-la vel_fw-la ex_fw-la permissu_fw-la sedis_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la non_fw-la veniunt_fw-la jus_o suum_fw-la totum_fw-la in_o eos_fw-la qui_fw-la convenerunt_fw-la censentur_fw-la transtulisse_fw-la salm._n tom._n 12._o tract_n 77._o say_v those_o who_o by_o a_o lawful_a hindrance_n or_o the_o permission_n of_o the_o apostolic_a see_v come_v not_o to_o the_o council_n be_v suppose_v to_o have_v transfer_v their_o right_n upon_o those_o which_o meet_v occam_fw-la and_o john_n brevicoxa_n bishop_n of_o paris_n seem_v to_o have_v conjoin_v both_o way_n whereof_o the_o first_o 8._o first_o diversae_fw-la personae_fw-la gerentes_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la &_o vicem_fw-la universarum_fw-la partium_fw-la totius_fw-la christianitatis_fw-la nisi_fw-la aliqui_fw-la noluerint_fw-la cel_z non_fw-la potuerint_fw-la convenire_fw-la vnde_fw-la si_fw-la aliquae_fw-la provinciae_fw-la nollent_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la possent_fw-la etc._n etc._n occam_fw-la dial._n l._n 5._o c._n 8._o require_v in_o a_o general_n council_n divers_a person_n bear_v the_o authority_n and_o place_n of_o all_o the_o part_n of_o christendom_n unless_o some_o will_v not_o or_o can_v not_o come_v whence_o if_o some_o province_n will_v not_o or_o can_v not_o delegate_v person_n have_v their_o authority_n and_o vote_n 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be_v endure_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o eternal_a salvation_n for_o suppose_v the_o delegate_n vote_v heresy_n shall_v the_o delegator_n be_v bind_v to_o confirm_v their_o suffrage_n the_o second_o way_n of_o delegate_a destroy_v the_o liberty_n of_o the_o council_n for_o the_o present_a bishop_n will_v by_o this_o mean_n be_v no_o judge_n of_o the_o controversy_n propose_v and_o all_o disputation_n or_o examination_n of_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n will_v be_v whole_o vain_a the_o first_o way_n therefore_o of_o representation_n be_v useless_a let_v we_o now_o consider_v the_o second_o i_o affirm_v that_o the_o absent_a bishop_n can_v be_v say_v to_o have_v commit_v their_o suffrage_n to_o the_o present_a for_o first_o although_o this_o may_v with_o some_o colour_n be_v say_v of_o those_o which_o have_v be_v lawful_o and_o sufficient_o summon_v yet_o it_o can_v be_v apply_v to_o they_o who_o either_o be_v not_o summon_v at_o all_o or_o not_o by_o he_o who_o have_v the_o 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one_o province_n provide_v the_o summons_n be_v direct_v to_o all_o the_o province_n as_o be_v interpretative_o invest_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o all_o the_o absent_a bishop_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o allow_v by_o our_o adversary_n and_o bellarmine_n 17._o bellarmine_n ut_fw-la saltem_fw-la ex_fw-la majori_fw-la parte_fw-la christianarum_fw-la provinciarum_fw-la aliqui_fw-la adveniant_fw-la bell._n the_o council_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 17._o himself_o require_v as_o the_o four_o condition_n of_o a_o general_n council_n that_o some_o bishop_n come_v from_o at_o least_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o province_n of_o christendom_n let_v the_o reader_n now_o judge_n how_o that_o can_v stand_v which_o richerius_n 21._o richerius_n maximè_fw-la propriè_fw-la &_o perfectissimè_fw-la rich._n apol._n axiom_n 21._o so_o positive_o affirm_v that_o a_o ecumenical_a council_n represent_v the_o whole_a church_n most_o proper_o and_o perfect_o on_o the_o contrary_a what_o i_o have_v already_o offer_v prove_v that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o at_o all_o much_o less_o most_o perfect_o represent_v thereby_o chap._n xiii_o that_o although_o there_o be_v ecumenical_a council_n it_o will_v be_v always_o uncertain_a which_o they_o be_v that_o there_o be_v no_o true_o ecumenical_a council_n i_o have_v prove_v in_o the_o precedent_a chapter_n but_o grant_v there_o be_v we_o shall_v gain_v but_o little_a unless_o we_o undoubted_o know_v which_o they_o be_v that_o deserve_v that_o name_n for_o the_o papist_n will_v not_o have_v their_o faith_n rely_v upon_o a_o council_n indefinite_o but_o upon_o such_o or_o such_o a_o council_n as_o for_o example_n upon_o that_o of_o constance_n or_o trent_n but_o their_o faith_n can_v rely_v on_o these_o unless_o they_o be_v certain_a they_o be_v ecumenical_a which_o that_o they_o can_v never_o be_v i_o shall_v prove_v in_o this_o chapter_n i_o may_v perhaps_o supersede_n this_o labour_n as_o be_v already_o perform_v by_o learned_a man_n even_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n launoy_n ames_n launoy_n laun._n epist_n part_n 8._o ad_fw-la ames_n and_o the_o author_n 2._o author_n de_fw-fr lib._n etc._n etc._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 2._o of_o the_o treatise_n of_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o gallican_n church_n although_o with_o a_o different_a intention_n for_o the_o first_o seem_v to_o have_v undertake_v it_o only_o for_o the_o love_n of_o truth_n the_o second_o that_o he_o may_v show_v the_o necessity_n of_o depend_v whole_o and_o absolute_o upon_o the_o pope_n but_o because_o both_o of_o they_o have_v omit_v many_o thing_n it_o will_v not_o be_v perhaps_o unuseful_a to_o add_v i_o to_o their_o observation_n first_o therefore_o the_o difficulty_n of_o know_v ecumenical_a council_n appear_v from_o the_o discord_n of_o author_n in_o number_v they_o bellarmine_n reckon_v 32_o which_o distribute_v into_o 4_o class_n he_o make_v 18_o of_o they_o to_o have_v be_v approve_v 7_o condemn_a 6_o partly_o approve_v and_o partly_o condemn_v and_o 1_o the_o pisan_a neither_o manifest_o approve_v nor_o manifest_o condemn_v bosius_n 8._o bosius_n bos_n de_fw-fr signis_fw-la eccl._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 8._o number_n 18_o express_o deny_v the_o rest_n to_o have_v be_v general_n bannes_n thom._n bannes_n ban._n catal._n council_n praemisso_fw-la tom._n 3._o in_o thom._n 15_o or_o at_o most_o 17._o but_o all_o omit_v that_o of_o sienna_n although_o acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v general_n by_o the_o council_n of_o basil_n 1436._o basil_n council_n basil_n in_o quâdam_fw-la resp_n datâ_fw-la 3._o id._n maii_n 1436._o again_o of_o those_o number_v by_o bellarmin_n some_o be_v by_o other_o writer_n expunge_v out_o of_o the_o list_n let_v we_o view_v they_o in_o order_n after_o the_o 1._o nicene_n council_n of_o who_o universality_n none_o doubt_v come_v that_o of_o sardica_n which_o be_v think_v to_o be_v general_n by_o bellarmin_n baronius_n perron_n lupus_n natalis_n alex._n maimbourg_n deny_v by_o the_o african_n photius_n and_o auxilius_n sardic_n auxilius_n apud_fw-la lupum_fw-la diss_n de_fw-fr council_n sardic_n among_o the_o ancient_n by_o richerius_n 3._o richerius_n rich._n the_o council_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 3._o and_o peter_n de_fw-fr marca_n 3._o marca_n marca_n de_fw-fr concord_n lib._n 7._o cap._n 3._o among_o the_o modern_n the_o first_o constantinopolitan_a council_n natalis_n 236._o natalis_n orientalis_n duntaxat_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la concilium_fw-la istud_fw-la fuit_fw-la nec_fw-la oecumenicum_fw-la nisi_fw-la ex_fw-la post_fw-la facto_fw-la quatenus_fw-la etc._n etc._n nat._n nat._n 4._o part_n 1._o p._n 236._o affirm_v to_o have_v be_v only_o a_o synod_n of_o the_o eastern_a church_n and_o ecumenical_a only_a ex_fw-la post_fw-la facto_fw-la inasmuch_o as_o the_o western_a church_n in_o the_o roman_a synod_n under_o pope_n damasus_n approve_v it_o yet_o in_o the_o year_n after_o the_o council_n the_o eastern_a bishop_n meet_v at_o constantinople_n and_o write_v to_o the_o roman_a synod_n call_v their_o former_a council_n ecumenical_a which_o valesius_fw-la 3._o valesius_fw-la val._n