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interpretation_n which_o we_o have_v good_a cause_n of_o hope_n to_o see_v short_o perform_v by_o the_o labour_n of_o so_o many_o learned_a man_n of_o foreign_a nation_n who_o have_v endeavour_v to_o give_v your_o majesty_n satisfaction_n in_o this_o kind_n in_o the_o mean_a space_n we_o can_v but_o high_o extol_v this_o rare_a modesty_n in_o so_o great_a a_o monarch_n especial_o when_o we_o hear_v m._n powell_n and_o other_o such_o unlearned_a upstart_n protest_v with_o full_a mouth_n that_o they_o know_v as_o certain_o that_o the_o pope_n be_v the_o great_a initio_fw-la disput_fw-la de_fw-fr antichr_n in_o initio_fw-la antichrist_n as_o that_o god_n be_v in_o heaven_n and_o jesus_n christ_n our_o saviour_n and_o redeemer_n certain_o it_o be_v strange_a how_o any_o man_n can_v fall_v into_o a_o fit_a of_o such_o extreme_a and_o impudent_a madness_n be_v it_o not_o that_o god_n permit_v sometime_o such_o excess_n of_o malicious_a folly_n for_o the_o reclaim_v of_o other_o mislead_v and_o seduce_v by_o these_o err_a guide_v and_o false_a prophet_n in_o which_o respect_n i_o have_v always_o think_v this_o question_n very_o profitable_a and_o of_o great_a importance_n to_o omit_v how_o necessary_a the_o discussion_n thereof_o may_v prove_v soon_o than_o we_o be_v aware_a in_o regard_n of_o the_o true_a and_o great_a antichrist_n himself_o who_o come_v we_o have_v far_o more_o reason_n to_o expect_v in_o our_o day_n than_o the_o ancient_a father_n have_v in_o they_o thus_o the_o divine_a goodness_n always_o turn_v evil_a into_o good_a and_o make_v all_o thing_n concur_v to_o the_o welfare_n of_o his_o elect_n and_o by_o this_o strange_a paradox_n and_o calumniation_n prevent_v and_o prepare_v we_o against_o antichrist_n come_v with_o a_o exact_a discovery_n of_o his_o whole_a proceed_n and_o persecution_n which_o whosoever_o consider_v attentive_o as_o it_o be_v lay_v down_o in_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n and_o declare_v by_o the_o holy_a father_n will_v easy_o perceive_v that_o hitherto_o the_o chief_a sign_n and_o note_n of_o antichrist_n have_v not_o be_v fulfil_v by_o any_o so_o that_o indeed_o there_o can_v be_v no_o doubt_n or_o question_n whether_o he_o himself_o be_v come_v only_o some_o controversy_n may_v be_v move_v which_o of_o his_o forerunner_n do_v most_o resemble_v he_o and_o in_o this_o also_o the_o matter_n may_v easy_o be_v decide_v for_o who_o see_v not_o that_o the_o false_a mahomet_n draw_v nigh_a unto_o he_o both_o in_o name_n and_o deed_n his_o name_n contain_v the_o number_n 666._o which_o be_v by_o s._n john_n assign_v to_o antichrist_n and_o his_o impiety_n enmity_n and_o persecution_n against_o christ_n and_o christian_n be_v notorious_a to_o the_o whole_a world_n for_o which_o cause_n there_o have_v not_o want_v some_o both_o catholic_n and_o apoc._n see_v peâ—erius_n in_o apoc._n protestant_n who_o have_v persuade_v themselves_o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o antichrist_n to_o be_v expect_v but_o these_o be_v evident_o confute_v by_o many_o invincible_a argument_n notwithstanding_o this_o their_o error_n though_o never_o so_o gross_a may_v seem_v in_o some_o sort_n excusable_a because_o they_o impugn_v a_o certain_a and_o manifest_a enemy_n but_o what_o shall_v we_o say_v of_o those_o who_o take_v their_o mark_n so_o much_o amiss_o that_o they_o make_v the_o chief_a visible_a pastor_n of_o christ_n church_n a_o member_n of_o satan_n yea_o antichrist_n himself_o can_v any_o thing_n be_v more_o absurd_a or_o intolerable_a be_v it_o possible_a that_o any_o christian_n will_v give_v luther_n the_o hear_n when_o his_o proud_a spirit_n of_o contention_n and_o contradiction_n make_v he_o first_o break_v forth_o into_o this_o open_a blasphemy_n how_o do_v not_o prince_n perceive_v that_o this_o be_v the_o high_a way_n to_o all_o rebellion_n can_v they_o conceive_v or_o imagine_v that_o temporal_a authority_n &_o jurisdiction_n will_v be_v regard_v where_o the_o chief_a spiritual_a power_n upon_o earth_n be_v thus_o impudent_o contemn_v and_o tread_v under_o foot_n can_v they_o trust_v to_o their_o pedigree_n when_o they_o see_v the_o continual_a succession_n of_o 1500._o year_n so_o light_o esteem_v what_o better_a title_n can_v they_o pretend_v for_o themselves_o than_o the_o express_a word_n of_o our_o saviour_n with_o which_o he_o establish_v s._n peter_n and_o his_o successor_n your_o majesty_n wise_o observe_v that_o unless_o court_n in_o the_o conference_n at_o hampton_n court_n the_o authority_n of_o bishop_n be_v maintain_v that_o of_o prince_n can_v not_o stand_v no_o bishop_n no_o king_n say_v your_o majesty_n and_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o no_o lawful_a bishop_n can_v be_v uphold_v against_o the_o pope_n authority_n to_o which_o all_o other_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n be_v subordinate_a can_v any_o judge_n or_o magistrate_n of_o the_o realm_n be_v independent_a of_o your_o majesty_n this_o be_v so_o evident_a that_o even_o the_o puritan_n themselves_o though_o otherwise_o never_o so_o blind_v with_o malice_n against_o the_o pope_n can_v not_o choose_v but_o see_v it_o for_o which_o cause_n they_o stick_v not_o to_o protest_v to_o all_o the_o world_n that_o if_o the_o prelate_n have_v the_o truth_n especial_o in_o this_o point_n the_o pope_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o in_o they_o god_n and_o christ_n jesus_n himself_o have_v great_a wrong_n and_o indignity_n offer_v unto_o they_o in_o 16._o in_o the_o christian_a and_o modest_a offâ—r_n etc._n etc._n publish_v anno_o 1606._o pag._n 16._o that_o they_o be_v reject_v and_o that_o all_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v schismatical_a in_o forsake_v unity_n and_o communion_n with_o they_o thus_o than_o it_o plain_o appear_v that_o the_o protestant_n neither_o according_a to_o the_o truth_n itself_o nor_o in_o the_o puritan_n judgement_n can_v defend_v themselves_o &_o their_o pretend_a bishop_n but_o by_o establish_v the_o pope_n and_o roman_a church_n and_o all_o the_o vehemency_n which_o they_o use_v against_o the_o pope_n to_o prove_v he_o antichrist_n fall_v upon_o themselves_o who_o participate_v with_o he_o in_o admit_v the_o hierarchy_n of_o bishop_n and_o as_o for_o other_o proof_n proper_a to_o puritan_n they_o be_v enforce_v to_o answer_v they_o as_o well_o as_o we_o yea_o most_o of_o all_o these_o argument_n be_v such_o as_o may_v very_o easy_o be_v turn_v against_o any_o lawful_a prince_n whatsoever_o and_o much_o more_o against_o such_o protestant_a prince_n as_o beside_o their_o temporal_a power_n make_v claim_n to_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n let_v any_o discreet_a reader_n reflect_v upon_o all_o particular_n and_o he_o will_v easy_o discern_v that_o if_o catholic_n have_v be_v no_o more_o moderate_a than_o luther_n and_o other_o protestant_n be_v king_n henry_n can_v not_o have_v entitle_v himself_o head_n of_o the_o church_n in_o spiritual_a and_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n without_o have_v the_o name_n of_o antichrist_n apply_v and_o appropriate_v unto_o he_o for_o if_o such_o contumelious_a inference_n be_v make_v against_o the_o pope_n
only_o within_o their_o own_o tribe_n for_o i_o can_v assure_v he_o that_o neither_o the_o king_n nor_o the_o nobility_n of_o england_n will_v imitate_v those_o of_o juda_n in_o this_o and_o it_o will_v be_v their_o only_a way_n to_o get_v a_o law_n enact_v that_o their_o generation_n may_v succeed_v they_o in_o their_o ministry_n which_o m._n downam_n seem_v to_o wish_v and_o to_o mislike_v that_o law_n not_o a_o little_a which_o in_o a_o parenthesis_n he_o tell_v we_o have_v otherwise_o provide_v these_o be_v the_o base_a and_o carnal_a cogitation_n of_o these_o new_a ghospeller_n and_o yet_o all_o will_v not_o serve_v for_o they_o shall_v never_o find_v a_o remedy_n for_o this_o their_o grief_n except_o they_o return_v to_o the_o catholic_a church_n whom_o they_o may_v thank_v for_o the_o live_n they_o have_v but_o in_o it_o god_n have_v provide_v for_o this_o &_o all_o other_o inconvenience_n that_o can_v any_o way_n arise_v and_o in_o particular_a for_o the_o decide_n of_o all_o question_n and_o controversy_n wherefore_o if_o the_o protestant_n and_o puritan_n will_v have_v a_o end_n of_o this_o of_o their_o bishop_n and_o presbytery_n they_o must_v of_o necessity_n stand_v to_o the_o catholic_a church_n judgement_n in_o which_o they_o shall_v find_v bishop_n establish_v and_o yet_o sometime_o by_o reason_n of_o persecution_n priest_n only_o without_o bishop_n as_o now_o we_o see_v in_o our_o country_n where_o conformable_a to_o that_o which_o in_o their_o judgement_n be_v practise_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o many_o place_n at_o least_o for_o a_o time_n we_o have_v hitherto_o only_a priest_n subordinate_a to_o a_o archpriest_n but_o yet_o we_o be_v far_o from_o mislike_v bishop_n but_o do_v both_o wish_n and_o expect_v they_o when_o our_o lawful_a superior_a who_o succeed_v the_o chief_a of_o the_o apostle_n shall_v see_v it_o convenient_a m._n c._n a_o table_n of_o the_o chapter_n of_o this_o first_o part_n of_o antichrist_n the_o disputation_n of_o antichrist_n be_v propound_v and_o the_o first_o argument_n from_o the_o name_n itself_o discuss_v chap._n i._n that_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v a_o certain_a determinate_a man_n chap._n ii_o that_o antichrist_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v chap._n iii_o the_o first_o demonstration_n that_o antichrist_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v chap._n four_o the_o second_o demonstration_n chap._n v._n the_o three_o demonstration_n chap._n vi_o the_o four_o demonstration_n chap._n vii_o the_o five_o demonstration_n chap._n viii_o the_o sixth_o demonstration_n chap._n ix_o of_o antichristes_n name_n chap._n x._o of_o antichristes_n character_n chap._n xi_o of_o antichristes_n generation_n chap._n xii_o of_o antichristes_n seat_n chap._n xiii_o of_o antichristes_n doctrine_n chap._n xiiii_o of_o antichristes_n miracle_n chap._n xv._o of_o antichristes_n kingdom_n &_o war_n chap._n xvi_o of_o gog_n and_o magog_n chap._n xvii_o the_o dotage_n of_o heretic_n be_v confute_v with_o which_o they_o do_v not_o so_o much_o prove_v as_o impudent_o affirm_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n chap._n xviii_o the_o trifle_n of_o the_o smalcaldicall_a synod_n of_o the_o lutheran_n be_v confute_v chap._n xix_o caluins_n lie_n be_v refute_v chap._n xx._n the_o lie_v of_o illyricus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxi_o the_o foolery_n of_o tylemanus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxii_o the_o lie_v of_o chytraeus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxiii_o the_o argument_n of_o caluin_n and_o illyricus_n be_v confute_v who_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v no_o long_o a_o bishop_n where_o also_o the_o fable_n of_o pope_n joane_n the_o woman_n be_v confute_v chap._n xxiiii_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n three_o book_n of_o the_o pope_n the_o first_o chapter_n wherein_o the_o disputation_n of_o antichrist_n be_v propound_v we_o have_v demonstrate_v hitherto_o say_v bellarmine_n that_o the_o pope_n succeed_v s._n peter_n in_o the_o chief_a princedom_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n it_o remain_v that_o we_o see_v whether_o at_o any_o time_n the_o pope_n have_v fall_v from_o this_o degree_n for_o that_o our_o adversary_n contend_v that_o he_o be_v not_o at_o this_o time_n a_o true_a bishop_n of_o rome_n whatsoever_o he_o be_v before_o and_o nilus_n in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o book_n against_o the_o primacy_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n speak_v thus_o but_o let_v that_o be_v the_o sum_n and_o head_n of_o my_o speech_n that_o while_o the_o pope_n keep_v in_o the_o church_n a_o convenient_a heavenly_a and_o of_o ancient_a time_n appoint_v order_n while_o he_o hold_v and_o defend_v the_o heavenly_a truth_n &_o while_o he_o cleave_v to_o christ_n the_o chief_a and_o true_a lord_n and_o head_n of_o the_o church_n i_o will_v easy_o suffer_v he_o to_o be_v both_o the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n &_o the_o chief_a priest_n &_o the_o successor_n of_o peter_n or_o else_o if_o he_o will_v of_o all_o the_o apostle_n that_o all_o obey_v he_o and_o that_o whatsoever_o belong_v to_o his_o honour_n be_v in_o nothing_o diminish_v but_o if_o he_o be_v depart_v from_o the_o truth_n &_o will_v not_o return_v to_o it_o he_o ought_v deserve_o to_o be_v account_v of_o as_o one_o that_o be_v condemn_v and_o reject_v but_o he_o shall_v have_v show_v into_o what_o error_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v fall_v and_o when_o and_o by_o who_o they_o be_v condemn_v for_o we_o know_v that_o in_o the_o general_n lateran_n council_n under_o innocentius_n the_o three_o and_o of_o lion_n under_o gregory_n the_o ten_o and_o of_o florence_n under_o eugenius_n the_o four_o the_o greek_n be_v convict_v of_o error_n return_v to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o latin_n and_o afterward_o always_o return_v to_o their_o vomit_n again_o and_o be_v therefore_o most_o grievous_o punish_v by_o god_n but_o we_o never_o read_v that_o the_o latin_n come_v to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o greek_n neither_o can_v there_o any_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n be_v produce_v against_o the_o latin_n as_o we_o bring_v many_o against_o the_o greek_n now_o caluin_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 7._o §_o 22._o let_v say_v he_o all_o those_o thing_n be_v true_a which_o notwithstanding_o we_o have_v now_o wrest_v from_o they_o that_o peter_n be_v by_o the_o voice_n of_o christ_n appoint_a head_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n &_o that_o he_o leave_v the_o honour_n give_v unto_o he_o in_o the_o roman_a sea_n that_o this_o be_v establish_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n &_o confirm_v by_o long_a use_n that_o the_o chief_a authority_n be_v always_o due_a from_o all_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o that_o he_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o cause_n and_o man_n that_o he_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o none_o let_v they_o have_v more_o also_o if_o they_o will_v yet_o i_o answer_v in_o one_o word_n that_o nothing_o of_o this_o stand_v in_o force_n except_o the_o church_n and_o bishop_n be_v at_o rome_n and_o after_o §_o 24._o let_v the_o romanist_n untie_v i_o this_o knot_n i_o deny_v that_o their_o pope_n be_v the_o prince_n of_o bishop_n since_o that_o he_o be_v not_o a_o bishop_n and_o after_o let_v rome_n in_o time_n past_a have_v be_v the_o mother_n of_o all_o church_n but_o since_o she_o begin_v to_o become_v the_o seat_n of_o antichrist_n she_o leave_v to_o be_v that_o which_o she_o be_v and_o after_o §_o 25._o we_o seem_v to_o some_o backbyter_n and_o slanderer_n when_o we_o call_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n antichrist_n but_o they_o which_o think_v so_o understand_v not_o that_o they_o accuse_v paul_n of_o immodesty_n after_o who_o we_o speak_v yea_o out_o of_o who_o mouth_n we_o speak_v so_o and_o lest_o any_o object_n that_o we_o wrongful_o wrest_v paul_n word_n against_o the_o pope_n which_o perteine_a to_o another_o purpose_n i_o will_v brief_o show_v that_o they_o can_v be_v understand_v otherwise_o then_o of_o the_o popedom_n so_o he_o the_o like_a teach_v all_o the_o heretic_n of_o this_o time_n &_o chief_o luther_n in_o supput_fw-la temporum_fw-la &_o in_o 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