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A09869 Want of charitie iustly charged, on all such Romanists, as dare (without truth or modesty) affirme, that Protestancie destroyeth salvation in answer to a late popish pamphlet intituled Charity mistaken &c. / by Christopher Potter ... Potter, Christopher, 1591-1646. 1633 (1633) STC 20135.3; ESTC S4420 135,510 274

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And if the Canons of Councells be divinely inspired then they must be admitted into the Code of holy Scriptures as of equall authoritie with them which though h Vide Can. loco lib. 5. c. 5. qu. 3. some grosser Papists admit yet the i Bell. de Concil lib. 2. c. 12. wisest dislike and deny Upon these or the like grounds Bellarmin leaves his companion Stapleton to walke alone in this dangerous path and avowes to the contrarie k Ibid. §. Dicuntur igitur that Councells neither have nor write immediate revelations Yet may some decrees of Councells in regard of their matter and consonancy to Scripture be of divine and infallible truth as those of the first Councells against Arrius Macedonius and the rest If in other things of lesser moment or in any thing they erre or mistake the Universall Church hath meanes of remedie either by antiquating those errors with a generall and tacite consent or by representing her selfe againe in an other Generall Councell which may review and correct the defects of the former as the great Councell of Chalcedon did with the second of Ephesus So sayes l De Baptis contr Donat. lib. 2. cap. 3. S. Augustine Provinciall Councells may be corrected by plenarie and plenarie Councells the former by the latter But still all examined by Scripture and submitted to it as the same Father m Aug. ad Donat post Collat. ca. 15. Item l. 3. contr Maxim de unit Eccl. cap. 18. 19. constantly teaches But if our Mistaker will be ingenuous and speake out he will confesse that he meanes by his infallible Church onely the Church virtuall that is onely the Pope In whom alone all the vertue and power of the Church is eminently conteined by whom all Councells must be judged and all Controversies determined on whom the whole frame of the Romane Catholique faith depends and into whom it is lastly resolved For this is the new Catholique doctrine of his new Masters especially of the Fathers of hi● society who teach with great consent that n Bell. lib. 4. de Rom. P. c. 3. §. Secundò probatur Quilibet Successor Petri est petra fundamentum Ecclesiae every Successor of S. Peter is th● rocke and foundation of the Church tha● o Skulkenius Apol. pro Bell. cap. 6 pag. 255. Pontificia potestas est velut cardo fundamentum ut uno verbo omnia complectar summa fidei Christianae Vide Bell. Praef. in lib. de R. P. the Popes authority is the hinge foundation and in briefe the summe of Christian faith that p Gretser Defens cap. 10. lib. 3. 〈◊〉 verb. Dei pag. 1450 1451. per Ecclesiam intelligimus Pont. Romanu● Et per Ecclesiam Papam interpretantur Non abnuo Franc. Albe●● Corollar Theolog. Tom 1. Corol. 4. punc 7. num 35. 36. Dico primo quòd praeter veritatem primam revelantem est in universo aliqu● regula infallibilis animata rationalis qualis est Ecclesia Quò● autem haec regula animata rationalis sit summus Pont. Romanus n●● est hîc locus proprius probandi sed inter recentiores videndus Valent. 22. q. 1. Card. Bell. Medina-Dico secundo stante hâc regulâ ration●●● infallibili omnes Articuli fidei ultimatè resolvuntur in ipsam tanqu●● in rationem formalem quâ in proponendo by the Church is understood the Pope in q Greg. de Valenti● Anal. fid lib. 8. cap. 7. §. Porrò Authoritas quae in uno Pontifice re●det authoritas dicitur Ecclesiae Conciliorum whom alone resides all the authority of the Church and o● Councells that r Bell. l. 4 de Ro● P. cap. 3. §. At contra Apparet totam firmitatem Conciliorum esse● Pontifice non partim à Pontifice partim à Concilio vide Long. à Cori● in Sum. Concil praelud 6. the strength of all Councells depends upon him alone that s Gretser defens cap. 1. lib. 1. de ver● Dei p. 16. Id solum pro verbo Dei veneramur ac suscipimus quod no●●● Pontifex ex Cathedra Petri tanquam supremus Christianorum Mag●ster ac omnium Controversiarum Judex definiendo proponit he i● the supreme Master of Christians and judge of all Controversies and whatsoever ●e propounds out of his chaire and that ●nely must be received as the word of God that his judgment is so absolutely infal●ible t Valent. Anal. fid lib. 8. cap. 3. ad 6. object sive Pontifex in definiendo studium adhibeat sive non adhibeat modò tamen controversiam definiat infallibiliter certè definiet that whether he be carefull or negligent in his definitions it matters not let him but define and without doubt he defines infallibly that u Jesuitae in Regulis Patavii inter schedas relictis An. 1606. quum illinc ob interdictum discederent reg 13. Apud Paulum Soarpium Theologum Venerum in Histor Interd lib. 2. if he who is the Hier●rchicall Church define that to be white which the eye judges to be blacke it must be so admitted that w Bell. de R. P. lib. 4. cap. 5. §. Quod autem Si Papa erraret precipiendo vitia vel prohibédo virtutes teneretur Ecclesia credere vitia esse bona virtutes malas nisi vellet contra conscientiam peccare if he should erre and command the practise of vice or forbid the exercise of vertue the Church were bound in conscience to beleive vices to be good and vertues to be bad This is plaine dealing Scriptures are obscure unlesse the Pope interpret them All Fathers and Councells may erre unlesse the Pope confirme them The Church without him is a bodie without an head an house without a foundation Controversies cannot be decided but onely by his definition and in that there can be no error nor any appeale from it But this being so these men deale not plainly with us when they pretend often in their dispu●ations against us Scriptures and Fathers and Councells and the Church since in the issue their finall and infallible argument for their faith is onely the Popes authority But infallibly there is nothing in Scripture which favours this infallibility unlesse the Pope may be admitted to expound it which he will do infallibly for his owne advantage And as little in reason or in Antiquity The Ancient Church was very carefull to conserve the puritie of the faith against heresies Some x Tertullian Vinc Lirin Fathers have written purposely of the plea's or prescriptions which the Church hath against them and how Catholique doctrine may be discerned and maintained to wit by authority of Scripture and tradition of the Catholique Church If they had beleived the Bishop of Rome to be the infallible Judge surely without more a doe they had appealed all Heretiques to his Tribunall And what needed the Christian Emperours anciently and sometime at the request of the Bishops of Rome themselves to
Art 3. Vix vllum peccatum cogitati potest solà Haeresi exceptâ quo illa Sedes Romana turp●ter maculata non fuerit maximè ab anno 800. He need not except Haeresy into which Biel In Can. Mass Lect. 23. grants it possible the Bishops of that Sea may fall And Stella in Luc. cap. 22. Almain L. 3. D. 24. q. 1. and Gabr. a Porta a Iesuite now professor at Burdeaux in 2. 2. q. 1. a. 10. dub 1. cited by Aurelius the Sorhonist In octo causas Spongiae praeambulas pag. 560 grants if freely that some of them did fall confessed them to be just but resolved to neglect thē This forced Luther and his associats to cry out more vehemently not against the Church but her corruptions Yet calmely and without any thought or designe of separation at the first When loe the i Leo. 10. Pope answeres all their iust complaints with vnjust and violent censures Because Luther and his favourers tell him modestly of his faults wishing him to correct foule disorders Hee therefore in a rage beates them out of doores excommunicates and chases them all out of his Romanc communion And his Successors take care to continue the Schisme For yeerly each Maundy Thursday in the Bull called Caenoe Domini all Heretiques are with great solemnity cursed into hell By Heretiques they meane all them that are not of the Romane obedience and such as cannot beleeue the vices of Rome to be good manners or her new inventions to be Catholique and as our Mistaker will say fundamentall doctrines k Cum carpuntur vitia inde scandalum oritur ipse sibi scandali causa est qui fecit quod argui debet non ille qui arguit Bern. ad Hugon de S. Vict. Ep. 78. Heere is the true cause of this miserable Schisme in Christendome the just grievance of all Christians in the world besides their owne zelotes Rome cast vs out before we left her l Non. fugimus sed fugamur Rex Iac. in Epist Is Casaubon ad Perrhon Cardin. Anathematibus diris nos expulerunt Quod satis superque nos absolvit Calv. Inst l. 4. c. 2. § 6. as our late most learned Soveraigne truly obserued It is true when the first Reformers were driven out they were not vnwilling to be gone And when they saw the Church of Rome in loue with her diseases so as shee would not bee cured m Though Israel transgresse yet let not Iudah sinne Hos 4. 15. vide in cum loc S. Hieron other Churches who owed her amity but not obedience vsed their just power and liberty and reformed themselues n Gerson de Concil generali vnius obedientiae part 1. pag. 222. vlt. edit Paris Nolo dicere quin in multis partibus possit Ecclesia per suas partes reformari imo hoc necesse esset ad hoc agendum sufficerent concilia provincialia But the good man complaines this was neglected Heu desolatione desolata est omnis terra quia nemo est qui recogitet corde omnes quaerunt quae sua sunt Concil Tolet. 4. can 3. Si causa fidei est aut quaelibet alia Ecclesiae communis generalis totius Hispaniae Galliciae Synodus convocetur Alb. M. in 1. D. 11. A. 9. vnicuique etiam particulari Ecclesiae licet id quod Catholicum est promulgare Rome her selfe added Filioque to the Creed of a Generall Councell not only without the consent of the Greeke Church but they vehemently opposing it in provinciall or Nationall Synods confirmed by publique Authority Yet with such a temperament of wisdome and Charity especially in the Church of England whereof I especially speake that they left the Church of Rome in nothing which makes her a Church in nothing which she holds of Christ or of Apostolique tradition Not in any part of the Catholique faith or Gods service such as is acceptable to him not in a charitable affection to their erring and seduced brethren of that Church For whilest they hate and curse vs we loue and pitty and pray for them We returne not curses againe our o Luc. 6. 28. Lord hath taught vs otherwise All damnatory and capitall Censures wee leaue to him p Iam. 4. 12 who alone is able to saue and destroy Only wee cannot wee dare not communicate with Rome either in her publique Leiturgy which is manifestly polluted with grosse superstition as themselues in effect confesse by their severall pretended reformations of it or in those corrupt vngrounded opinions which shee hath added to the faith of Catholiques These abuses and errors deface the beauty and taint the purity of divine truth they make vp the Popery of Rome not the Church In them our Communion is dissolued but wee haue still a true and reall Vnion with that and all other members of the Church Vniversall in Faith and Charity The state of the Church vnder the Roman obedience and that part which is Reformed is very fitly q Mr Bedel ag Wadsw cap. 4. resembled to a field overgrowne all with weeds thistles tares cockle Some part whereof is weeded and cleansed some part remaines as it was before which makes such a difference to the eye as if it were not the same corne But being better considered it will be found all the difference is from the weeds which remaine there and here are taken away Yet neither here perfectly nor euery where alike but according to the industry of our weeders or conveniency of the worke with care of the safety of the good corne Those worthy Husbandmen that in these last 600 yeares haue takē paines in plucking vp those pernicious weeds out of the Lords field and severing the chaffe from his graine cannot be rightly said in doing this either to haue brought in another field or to haue changed the auncient graine The field is the same but weeded now vnweeded then the graine the same but winnowed now vnwinnowed then Such tares are all those Romane additions which wee haue rejected which the best learned of their owne confesse in effect to bee 1. doubtfull and perplexed opinions 2 doctrines vnnecessary and forraigne to the faith and 3. novelties vnknowne to Antiquity 1 Doubtfull The Romane Doctors doe not fully and absolutely agree in any one point among themselues but only in such points wherein they agree with vs In the other disputed betweene vs they differ one frō another as much almost as they differ from vs. In each Controversy there is not only variety but contrariety of judgements amongst them and in conclusion nothing but perplexity and vncertainty I appeale for proofe of this to the famous Tomes of Card. Bellarmine where in the front and stateing of every question he hath with great diligence noted the contentions contradictions of his Fellowes 2. They are confessedly Vnnecessary and Superfluous For they confesse that setting aside all matters controverted the maine positiue truths wherein all agree are abundantly
truth Every false opinion is not properly a● Heresy or condemned by a definition of the Church 2 The same Author saith of q Haer. 80. Alias ipse commemorat quae mihi appelland ae Haereses non videntur Philastrius that hee ranked many things in his Catalogue of Heresies which in his judgement were not truly so named Therefore either Philastrius set downe many Heresies not defined to bee such by the Church or else S. Austin should be an Heretique who denied them to be Heresies after the Church had defined them Lastly he notes that Philastrius and Epiphanius differ in the number of their Heretiques because they differed in their judgement of Heresy r August ibid. proculdubio in ea quaestione vbi disputatur quid sit Haeresis non idem videbatur ambobus c. that seeming an Heresy to the One which seemed not so to the Other Himselfe differs from them both professing the reason to bee because it is hard to agree vpon the true nature and definition of Heresy He was not then of our Mistakers opinion that the definition of the Church is that which makes an Heresy The like difference may bee observed in the Writers of the Romane Church s Alph. in Praefat. lib. 1. cap. 9. Pater miserè errâsse Bern. de Lucemburgo Hereticorum Catalogum describentem Alphonsus à Castro often taxes the miserable errours as he calls them of Guido Perpinianus Bernardus de Lucemburgo and others in their Catalogues of Heretiques and in their judgement of Heresy wherein he thinkes them many times mistaken And will the Mistaker say that all the Heresies recounted by Alphonsus himselfe Prateolus and the like were errours publiquely condemned by the definition of the Church It is true when the Church hath declared her selfe in any matter of Opinions or of Rites her Declaration obliges all her Children to peace and externall obedience Nor is it fit or lawfull for any private man to oppose his judgement to the publique He may offer his contrary opinion to bee considered of so he doe it with evidence or great probability of Scripture or reason and very modestly still containing himselfe within the dutifull respect which hee owes But if he will factiously advance his owne conceits and despise the Church so farre as to cast off her communion hee may be justly branded and condemned for a Schismatique yea and an Heretique also in some degree and in foro exteriori though his opinion were true and much more if it bee false And this was it that made one great difference betweene Saint Cyprian and the Donatists though they agreed in the er●or of Rebaptization For the Donatists had other errours more grosse and dangerous and even amounting to Heresy in the matter of them where of Sr Cyprian was no way guilty as shall appeare St Cyprian was of opinion that all Heretiques returning to the Catholique Church ought to be rebaptized Steven at the same time Bishop of Rome held the direct contrary that no Heretiques should be rebaptized Both of them erred and both said true in some sense The ambiguity of the word Heretique deceived them For the Catholique Church afterwards in the Councell of Nice declaring her selfe in that Controversy distinguished of Heretiques and decreed that t Concil Nic. Can. 8. Cathari Some should not bee rebaptized but receiued with a simple benediction and that u Paulianistae s●u Samosateniani ibid. Can. 19. Concil 6. in Trull Can. 95. Others should be But the disposition and carriage of Steven and Cyprian in this businesse was very different and very remarkable Steuen in a violent heat w Eusch Hist lib. 7. cap. 4. excommunicates all the Bishops of Cilicia Cappadocia Galatia c. because they were not of his minde When they sent some Bishops of their Company to him fairely to treate of the matter He x Vide Firmiliani Epist inter Epist Cypriani 75. ad fin forbids them to be receiued into any house or harbor He vses Cyprian with termes of reproach calls him y Ibid. false Christ false Apostle deceitfull Worker With Steuen agreed his Italian Bishops On the other side notwithstanding this Declaration of the Bishop and Church of Rome in this Controuersie S. Cyprian a Bellar. lib. 2. de Concil cap. 5. Constat Cornelium Papam cum nationali Concilio omnium Episcoporum Italiae statuisse non debere Haereticos rebaptizari eandem sententiam posteà approbâsse ●●am Stephanum Papam jussisse vt Haeretici non rebaptizarentur Et simu constat Cyprianum contrarium sensisse mordicus defendisse id quod etiam ipse fatetur in Epist ad Pompeium vbi arguit Stephanum Pa●am erroris Et tamen Cyprianus semper est habitus in numero Catholicorum persisted in his opinion and with him 80. Bishops of Africa Synodically assembled at Carthage besides those other of the East For in that age men did not beleeue that the Romane Church was infallible or that it was Heresie to dissent from her judgement or not to submit to her authoritie But the behauiour of Cyprian was full of sweetnesse and modesty He deliuers his owne firme opinion but withall b Cypr. Epist 72. ad Stephan Quâ in re nos vim nemini facimus nec legom damus cùm habeat in Ecclesiae administratione voluntatis suae arbitrium liberum vnusquisque Praepositus Id. Epist 73. ad Iubaianum in fine Haec breuitèr pro nostra mediocritate rescripsimus nemini praescribentes aut praeiudicantes quo minùs quisque Episcoporum quod putet faciat habens arbitrij sui liberam potestatem Nos quantum in nobis est cum Collegis Coepiscopis nostris non contendimus cum quibus diuinam concordiam Dominicam pacem tenemus Et mox Seruatur à nobis patientèr ac firmitèr Charitas animi Collegii honor vinculum fidei concordia Sacerdotij Id. in Praefat. Concil Carthag Superest vt de hâc re Singuli quid sentiamus proferamus Neminem judicantes aut à jure communio nis aliquem si diuersum senserit amouentes Neque enim quisquam nostrûm tyrannico terrore ad obsequendi necessitatem Collegas suos adigit professes that he meant not to prescribe or giue lawes to any that euery Bishop might freely follow his owne judgement that he would not contend with any of his Colleagues about this matter so farre as to breake diuine concord and the peace of our Lord that he was farre from judging or censuring any of his Brethren or cutting off from his communion any that were of a different minde that in such cases none ought to constraine his Collegues by tyrannicall terrour therein glancing at the procedures of Steuen to a necessity of beleeuing or following what he thinkes meet This modestie and Charitie is very often and very deservedly commended by c Aug. de Bapt. cont Donat. lib. 1. cap. 18. lib. 2. cap. 1. 2. 3.
purè divina nec purè humana sed quasi media another In truth and to speake properly an humane testimony saith a q Aegid de Conick disp 9. dub 5 Conc. 2. Quantumvis Ecclesia dirigatur infallibili Sp. S. assistentiâ atque ita ejus testimoniū nitatur suo modo authoritate divinâ atque ab ea firmitatem accipiat tamen non est verè propriè testimonium sive verbum revelatio Dei sed propriè est testimonium humanum Ergò illud nequit esse objectum formale fidei Theologieae consequenter haec nequit in illud tanquam in suum objectum ultimò resolvi third who thereupon well inferres that therefore the voyce of the Church cannot be the formall object of divine faith or that where-into it is lastly resolved The Church then is onely the first inducer to beleeue and the watchman that holdeth out the light in open view and presenteth the shining beams thereof to all that haue eyes to discerne it but the principall motiue and last object of beliefe is the divine authority of Scripture it selfe And that Scripture is of divine authority the beleever sees by that glorious beame of divine light which shines in r Bellarmin de verbo Dei li. 1. c. 2. Certissimas divinas esse Scripturas quae Propheticis Apostolicis literis continentur nec humana inventa sed divina oracula continere testis est ipsa Scriptura O. rig de Princip l. 4. c. 1. Quòd ipsae divinae Scripturae sint divinitùs inspiratae ex ipsis divinis Scriptuis is ostendemus Salv. Massil l. 3. de Gubern mox a● initio Alia omnia id est humana dicta argumentis ac testibus egent Dei autem sermo ipse sibi testis est quia necesse est quicquió incorrupta veritas loquitur incorruptum sit testimonium veritatis Scripture by many internall arguments found in the letter it selfe though found by the helpe and direction of the Church without and of grace within Herein the Church leades but the Scripture resolues The Ministery of the Church as a Candlestick presents and holds out the light but this supposed there is in the Scripture it selfe * 2 Pet. 1. 19. light sufficient which though blinde * 1 Cor. 2. 14 sensuall mindes see not yet the eye of reason cleared by grace and assisted by the many motiues which the Church useth for enforcing of her instructions may discover to be divine descended from the father fountaine of light To this light the Church addes nothing at all but onely points at it directs us to it disposes and prepares us for it introduces it as the dawning of the morning doth the cleare Sunshine So farre as any Church walks in this light and carries it with her we may safely follow her if she bring a divine word for her warrant she must be beleeved But if her propositions or doctrines be meerely voluntary her owne and not according to that word there Es 8. 20. is no light in them neither can her authority make such doctrines proper objects of divine faith An Object how sensible soever it be in it selfe yet it doth not actually moue the Sense unlesse it be conveyed applyed to it by some Meane So here God hath appointed an ordinary outward meanes to present and propound divine verities to our faith and this ordinary means wee grant is the Church to which wee willingly attribute these two excellent uses in that imployment 1. of a witnesse testifying the authority and sence of the Scriptures unto us 2. of Gods instrument by whose ministery in preaching and expounding the Scriptures the Holy Ghost begets a divine faith in us But in that assent which wee yeeld unto the mysteries propounded and delivered by the Church though the Church be one cause to wit inductiue or preparatiue s Gretser Append. 2. ad lib. 3. Bellar. de verb. D. Col. 1514. principaliter Scripturis fidem habemus propter divinā revelationem at ob Ecclesiae authoritatem non aliter quā ut ob conditionem sine qua non Et infra Sacris litetis assensum prae bemus primariò ob divinam revelationem secundariò ob Ecclesiae testimonium without which men ordinarily do not beleeue yet it is not the principall or finall upon which wee lastly depend The chiefe principle or ground on which faith rests and for which it firmly assents unto those truths which the Church propounds is divine revelation made in the Scripture Nothing lesse then this nothing but this can erect or qualifie an act of t Becan Sum. tract de fide ca. 1. q. 2. §. 9. Assensus qui nititur authoritate Ecclesiae non est assensus fidei Theologicae sen divinae sed alterius inferioris ordinis super naturall faith which must be absolutely undoubted and certaine and without this faith is but opinion or persuasion or at the most an acquired humane beliefe This power in the Church to instruct her children in the faith according to Scripture which is her ground and rule from which she may not depart we willingly admit But we cannot yeeld that the present Church hath an absolute or unlimited authority to propound what she pleases or an infallible assistance in all her propositions which is our Mistakers meaning and the new doctrine of some of his Masters Who teach 1. that the authority of the Church is absolute not depending on Scripture but on which the Scripture it selfe and so our whole faith depends The words of u Bellar. de effect Sacram. lib. 2. cap. 25. §. tertium testimonium Bellarmine are remarkable If saith he we take away the authority of the present Church of Rome and of the Trent Councell the decrees of all other ancient Councels the whole Christian faith may be questioned as doubtfull For the strength of all doctrines and of all Councels depends upon the authority of the present Church And elsewhere againe to the same purpose lest the former words might seeme to haue fallen from his pen unawares w Bellar. de Eccl. mil. lib. 3. cap. 10. §. Adhaec necesse est The Scriptures Traditions and all doctrines whatsoever depend on the testimony of the Church he means that of Rome without which all are wholly uncertaine Here 's a plaine principle of Atheisme For if this be true all the faith we haue of God of our Redeemer of the Scripture of any thing in Religion is all but an ungrounded and uncertaine opinion unlesse the Church confirme it And as the Idols of old Rome could not be consecrated or deified but by consent of the Senate who tooke upon thē 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as S. x Chrys in 2. ad Cor. hom 26 in Moral Et Tertul. Apolog cap. 5. Nisi homini Deus placuerit Deus non erit Chrysostome merily speakes to make gods by most voyces So here it seemes our true God and
Scriptures and Religion must all stand at the courtesie and suffrage of the Roman Conclaue 2 They teach that much of the object or matter of faith is not contained in Scripture any way that the Church hath an unlimited power to supply the defects of Scripture and that she may propound any doctrines as necessary to salvation which haue no other ground but her owne authority which is equall to that of Scripture There are many things saith y Mel. Canus Loc. lib. 3. c. 3. fund 3. Canus belonging to the faith of Christians which are neither manifestly nor obscurely contained in the sacred Scriptures And Doctor a Princip Doctrin li. 12 c. 5. initio Stapleton Very many things necessary to salvation and necessarily to be beleeved are not comprehended in the Scriptures but are commended to us onely by the authority of the Church And againe b Id. Relect. Contr. 4. qu. 1. art 3. ad arg 12. Etiamsi nullo Scripturarū aut evidenti aut probabili testimonio confirmetur The Church may propound define matters of faith without any evident nay without any probable testimony of Scripture Do not these words of Stapleton imply that the Church of Rome propounds many things to the beliefe of Christians without any probability from Scripture With what ingenuity then or conscience do they pretend Scripture in each Controversie against us since by their owne confession many of their assertions are meere unwritten Traditions leaning onely on the authoritie of their Church On the contrary for the fullnesse and sufficiency of Scripture in all necessary points we have the full consent of Antiquity and of many learned Writers of their owne even of Bellarmine himselfe whose plaine words to this purpose have been already noted And the same Cardinall though herein as not seldome contradicting both himselfe and his fellowes c Bellar. lib. 3. de verb. D. interpret cap. 10. ad arg 15. Sciendum est propositionem fidei concludita li Syllogismo Quicquid Deus revelavit in Scripturis est verum hoc Deus revelavit in Scripturis ergò hoc est verum Ex propositionibus hujus Syllogismi prima certa est apud omnes secunda apud Catholicos est etiam firmissimas nititur enim testimonio Ecclesiae Concilii vel Pontificis grants that a proposition is not de fide unlesse it be concluded in this Syllogisme whatsoever G●● hath revealed in Scripture is true but th● or that God hath revealed in Scripture erg● it is true If matters of faith must be revealed in Scripture as this reason supposes then the proposall of the Church cannot make any unwritten veritie to become matter of faith Yet to salve the soveraigne power of His Church he makes all the strength and truth of the minor in this Syllogisme to depend on the testimony of the Church and by consequence the truth of the conclusion which ever resembles the weake Premisse So as if this be true there is no truth in the Scriptures or in our Religion without the attestation of the Church 3. They teach that the Church is infallibly assisted in her proposalls and doctrines so as she cannot erre And this dreame hath made Rome sencelesse of her errours and careles to seek any remedie nay utterly incapable of remedie For to mindes really possessed with this fond persuasion and prejudice the most convincing reasons the most plaine Scriptures the most pregnant authorities of Fathers which proue the Church of Rome may erre or hath erred are all lost and made ineffectuall and seeme not strong arguments of the truth but strong temptations against it And this imagination of their Churches infallibility is to them at once both a sufficient reason of what is most unreasonable and a sufficient answer for what is most unanswerable That the Church is infallible we do not absolutely deny wee only deny the Church to be absolutely infallible Some of the most able Writers of the Roman partie do so fairly limit this priviledge that in their sence we do without difficulty admit it Their limitation is double regarding 1. the subject of this infallibility 2. the object of it First for the subject they plant this infallibility only in the Church Universall or the Catholique body of Christ on earth comprehending all his members not in any particular Church or any representation of the Church in Coūcels Generall or particular much lesse in any one member of the Church no not in him who pretends to be the Head So d Walden lib. 2. Doct. fid art 2. cap. 19. §. 1. Ecclesia Universalis fidē habet indefectibilem non quidem in Generali Synodo congregata quam aliquoties errâsse percepimus Sylv. Sum. verb. Ecclesia cap. 1. §. 4. Ecclesia quae non potest errare dicitur nō Papa sed congregatio fideliū Et vide gloss in cap. 24. qu. 1. call A recta Waldensis Sylvester and others 2. For the object or extent of this infallibility they grant it reaches not to all points or questions in Religion that may arise but only to such Articles as belong to the substance of faith such as are matters essentiall fundamentall simply necessary for the Church to know belleue To omit e Maldon in Iohan. 14. 26. Dubium est an illud docebit omnia referendum sit ad illud quaecunque dixi vobis quasi non aliud docturum Spiritum sanctum dicat quàm quod ipse anteà docuiffer Non repugnabo si quis ita velit interpretari Charron vetité 3. chap. 5. §. lc second poinct L infallibilité de l'Eglise ne s'entend que des choses qui concernent la substance de la foy laquelle ne reçoit point de contrarieté divet sité changement pource nulle correction reformation ou amendement estant vne tousiours immuable non reformable dit Tertullien de virg Veland Et ibid. saepe others Dr f Staplet Princip Doctrin lib. 8. controv 4. cap. 15. Stapleton is full and punctuall to this purpose He distinguishes controversies of Religion into two sorts Some saith he are about those doctrines of faith which necessarily pertaine to the publique faith of the Church Others about such matters as doe not necessarily belong to the faith but may be variously held and disputed without hurt or prejudice to faith To the first sort he restrains the infallibility of the Church But in the second he yeelds that the Church may sometimes erre either in her discourses or in her conclusions that without any violation of Christs promise made to the Church for infallibilitie And of this assertion He giues diverse good reasons The first and chiefest taken from the end for which infallibility was given to the Church It was given saith He for the common salvation of the faithfull and not for the satisfaction of unprofitable curiosities or for the search of unnecessary subtleties For as nature so God is neither defectiue in necessaries nor lavish in
in Religion Now he pretends there is great Unitie in doctrine among his Roman Catholiques With little reason and with as little ingenuitie For certainly if in this point we be not innocent they are much more guilty The truth is that old complaint of Optatus fits our times better then his a Lib. 5. Omnes contentiosi homines sumus there is but too much quarrelling on all sides which exposes our holy faith to the scorne of Infidells and ill beseemes them that pretend as we doe all to serve and follow the Prince of peace But sure the Romanists are not in case to fasten this reproach on us since it will reflect more strongly on themselues who have many more and more weighty Controversies among their owne Doctors then those of ours For our dissensions I have already said enough if not to justifie yet to excuse them To which I now adde by way of just recrimination that they are both for their number and in their nature of farre lesse importance then the dissensions in his Romane Church But our Mistaker answers in the behalfe of his jarring Doctors two things 1. that they differ onely in some schoole-questions of opinion not in matters of faith 2. that they dissent in iudgement onely without breach of charitie But in both the parts of this answer I shall briefly let him see that he is Mistaken His first plea is a very true and reasonable Apologie for our Reformed Churches but not so for his Romane Our controversies are none of them in the substance of faith but onely in disputable opinions not cleerly defined in Scripture wherein learned and charitable men do each one abound in his ow● sence still keeping the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace The summe of our faith is the same which we have received from the Apostles We have no● added any new Articles to the Creed nor do we differ about any of the old ones But they of b Bulla Pii 4. post Concil Trident. Rome have inlarged the Creed of Christians one moity and will needs have the world to beleive many things as points of faith which at the best are but doubtfull opinions among all which there is hardly one wherein themselves do fully agree The c The new title of Cardinalls by the decre of Pope Urban Jun. 10. 1630. See it in the French Merc. Tome 16. pag. 592. most eminent Cardinall Bellarmine in his Controversies against us hath fairly confessed as hath been formerly noted that each opinion almost is controverted amongst themselves A d Contradictiones DD. Rom. Eccl. ex Rob. Bellarmino Autore Joan Pappo Argentorati Ann. 1597. Vide etiam Matthiam 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Sectis controversiis religionis Papisticae Basil 1565. German Doctor hath collected out of Him their contradictions and set them down in his owne words to the number of 237. and withall a Catalogue of such Romane Writers as Bellarmine himselfe hath contradicted and confuted which contains the most part of Writers in his owne Church famous for learning in later ages Ioannes de Radae hath filled two grosse volumes with the contentions of the Thomists and Scotists And the Dominicans and Iesuites have filled libraries with their quarrells in the matter of Grace and Freewill wherein either side pretends the definition of the Trent Councell for their contrarie opinions It seemes that Councell like the Devill in the old Oracles hath deluded them both with ambiguous sentences Or if the definition be cleare one of the Factions doth obstinately contradict it Why doth not his Holinesse all this while interpose and give out his infallible judgment in the questions If he will not he wants charity towards his owne children if he cannot how is he the infallible Iudge Or is it rather his wary wisedome not hastily to decide Controversies wherein witty and learned men on both sides are engaged * As Widdrington and his followers have done See Widdringtons Purgation against the Popes Decree wherein he was condemned for an Heretique and no child of the Church lest in stead of changing their opinions they should fall to challenge not onely the infallibility but which were more dangerous the authority of their Iudge and in stead of reforming their owne judgement despise his The most capitall point of all others in their new Creed is that of the Popes authority and that obedience which he challenges in spirituall and temporall matters yet of all others they are most at discord among themselves about this point The old doubts are not yet resolved whether he be under or above a Generall Councell and whether he may erre in his definitive sentence some advance him with priviledges above the condition of men Others thinke more soberly of his power and are bold to resist him when they see him abuse it In the Trent Councel the Spanish Bishops stood stoutly for the independency of Episcopall authority and strongly maintained residence to be de jure divino being overborne onely with most voices by the Italian faction The Divines of Venice in the late quarrells of pope Paule the 5. against that State neglected the Popes Interdict so that he was fain with shame enough to revoke his Censures e Voiez la Declaration de l' Assemblee Generale du Clergé de France An. 1625. Very lately the Bishops of France have brought the Regulars of that Kingdome under their jurisdiction notwithstanding their exemptions by the Pope And whereas his Flatterers tell him that he hath either directly as f Carerius Bosius c. some say or indirectly as g Bell. c. others to the same purpose a Tempor all Monarchy over all the earth that all Princes are his vassals and may be deposed when he thinkes fitt that he may dispense with subjects for their oath of Allegeance and license them to take armes against their Soveraignes Many good Catholiques detest these damnable doctrines and have h Barclay Withrington The Divines of Venice confuted them as tending to bring ruine and confusion on all states and in France the seditious bookes of Mariana Bellarmine Becanus Suarez Santarellus and such like containing these horrible Maximes of the Society have been cast into the fire by the hand of the publique Hangman But among their discords there is none more memorable or of greater consequence then that of the two Popes Sixtus 5. and Clement 8. about their vulgar See Dr James his Bellum Papale and Cortuptions of the Fathers part 3. Latin Bibles When the Councell of Trent declared that Translation only to be authenticall there were abroad in the World above 60. severall Editions of it each differing from other Which Sixtus taking into consideration with great diligence and advise of many Cardinals he compared the Copies and out of them all published one which he straitly commanded to be received as the onely true Vulgar by a solemne Bull abolishing all others which did not exactly ad verbum and ad
literam agree with that and was so curious as with his owne hand to correct many errors escaped in the Presse because he would have it more compleat This Bible was published with the Popes Declaration before it the yeare 1590. a Copy wherof is extant though they have consumed as many as they could in the publique Library of Oxford Clement 8. shortly after observing many defects and corruptions in that Edition published another with the very like Declaration wherein he authorises onely his owne Bible revoking all others These two Bibles infinitely differ not onely in words phrases and entire verses but in very many absolute and direct contradictions yet are they both equally justified and equally injoyned under the penalty of a curse to them that obey not So as hereby all Roman Catholiques are involved in a miserable necessity either to use no Bible at all or to undergoe the curse of Pope Sixtus if they use that of Clement or of Pope Clement if they use the other of Sixtus Nothing can be said with truth or reason to salve this contradiction Now I suppose our Mistaker will yeeld that the authenticall Edition of the Bible and the Popes Authority are not matters of opinion onely Their differences therefore are not onely in matters of opinion The second part of his Answer for his Doctors is that their differences are all fairely and peaceably carried without any breach of charity Happy were the poore Church of Christ if all Controversies in Religion might be so handled but it hath beene and is her misery that it is far otherwise And here againe the Roman Part is as guilty at least as the Reformed I love not to be raking in dunghills Yet to shew the Mistaker that Lutherans alone are not troubled with passions of the Spleene I will give him some few examples of Papists railing as unmercifully at their owne Brethren as they are wont to doe at us Alex. Carerius is so zealous for the Popes direct temporall Monarchie that all who deny it are in his language i Carerius in tit libri sui lib. 2. cap. 12. § Quorum impious polititians and heretiques and their reasons all false hereticall dotages Now it is denyed by the Cardinalls k Bell. lib. 5. de R. Pont. cap. 1. §. Tertia Bellarmin Turrecremata Cajetan and a great number of other learned Romanists In that bitter contention betweene the Seculars Iesuites of this Kingdome in the yeare 1600 and after about the authority of Blackwell the Archpriest the two Factions are notably deciphered each by other The Seculars by the l Parsons his Apol. for Subord ch 4. 8. c. and the Table prefixed Iesuites to be mad heads seditious libellers notorious calumniators factious turbulent obstinate brawlers tumultuous of scandalous life writing evident egregious malitious untruths impudent fictions and wicked slanders rebels betrayers of the Catholique cause c. On the other side the Iesuites by the m Watsons Quodlibet pag. 61. 151. passim Seculars to be Schismatiques Donatists Anabaptists Arrians Vipers men that runne such a desperate course as if Religion were but a meere politicall and Atheall devise living by the principles of Machiavell taught by their Arch-rabbies how to maintaine with equivocations dissimulation detraction ambition sedition surfeiting sorer then ever did Heliogabalus busied in setting division breeding of jealousie and making of hostile strife by opposition of King against King State against State Priest against Priest Peere against Peere Parents against Children raising of rebellions murthering of Princes making uprores every where Men unworthy to be called Religious or Catholiques or Christians For howsoever they boast of their perfections holines meditations and exercises yet their plots are heathenish tyrannicall satanicall and able to set Aretine Lucian Machiavell yea and Don Lucifer to schoole Wicked Iesuites who would have all Catholiques to depend on the Archpriest when as the Archpriest depended upon father Garnet Garnet on Parsons and Parsons upon the Devill c. These are our Mistakers friends whom he commends so much for unitie and charity But sure if this be charity it is such as he calls in the title of his booke Charity mistaken This very contention is now againe of late revived amongst them on the like occasion and pursued with the like intemperate bitternes both in * See the Treatise of Paul Harris Priest against the Excommunication published against him and D. Caddell by the Archbishop of Dublin Th. Flemming alias Barnewell a Franciscane Frier Printed Anno 1632. Ireland and especially in this Kingdome The present Pope Vrban hath given to one Richard Smith the title of Bishop of Chalcedon and hath sent him not to reside upon his See for that had beene to punish him and send him a begging but hither into England appointing unto him for his Diocesse the two Kingdomes of England and Scotland and investing him with the power and jurisdiction of Ordinary over all his Catholiques in these Kingdomes without any exception of Laitie or Clergie Secular or Regular The Jesuites cannot brook any subordination but where some of their owne command in chiefe Therefore being questioned by this Bishop for their Faculties they straightway question him for his Authority and publish to the world in divers n Discussio assertionum D. Kellisoni Autore Nichol. Smithaeo Apologia pro processione sedis Apostolicae Autore Daniele à Jesu Declatatio Catholicorū Laicorum Angliae Declarations that his power is meerly usurped and pretended that there is no necessity either of particular Bishops for the government of particular Churches or of the Sacrament of Confirmation especially in times and places of persecution for so these men speake of the most milde goverment of our most religious Soveraigne that the Regulars as such are proper and principall members of the Ecclesiasticall Hierachie that their state is a state of greater perfection then that of Bishops or Presbyters that their exemption from the power of Bishops is essentially annexed to their condition that their priviledges cannot be revoked no not by the Pope c. These Maximes and the like passe for Catholique doctrine among the Jesuited partie But on the other side they are condemned and censured not only by their owne secular Clergy here but in France by the Archbishop of Paris by 34 of their other Bishops in a full assembly and by the Sorbon to be o Censura quarundam propositionum per Facult Parisiensem Parisiis 1631. propositions rash presumptuous false absurd scandalous profane injurious to Episcopall dignity destructive to the Church and hereticall This Censure was quickly well washed with the bitter Sponge of Iohn Floyd a Jesuite p Aurelius in vindiciis pag. 385. lurking under the name of Hermannus Loemelius who charges the Sorbonists with malice ignorance stupidity schisme and heresie and with great scorne insults upon them But against him the Censure and Censors are defended by two Doctors of that Societie