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A41212 A compendious discourse upon the case, as it stands between the Church of England and of Rome on the one hand, and again between the same Church of England and those congregations which have divided from it on the other hand together with the treatise of the division of the English church and the Romish, upon the Reformation / enlarged with some explicatory additionalls by H.F. ... Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1655 (1655) Wing F790; ESTC R5674 55,518 166

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their or the like Principles may in time consider it and not think it enough to say the Lord be glorified because they prosper and are become rich but rather enquire whether that they have done be as to their private advantage and gain so to the behoofe of Gods Church and the advancement of true Religion and whether the Lord to whom they have so oft appealed by their Fasts and Thanksgivings can indeed own their doings as making for his glory certainly the Lord must deny himself which he will not do if he own Injustice Schisme and Sacriledge Hee forbeares a while and keepes silence for Causes best known to himself and men prospering by those sins think he is such a one as themselves approving their doings but he will reprove them and set before them what they have done He will appeare and they shall be ashamed If such considerations as these prevaile not with them that doe gain by the formentioned sins yet let the word of exhortation take hold upon you all you that have followed the Schism in the simplicity of your hearts not engaged by any design of gain or self-interest but only deceived with the pretence of Purity in Gods worship and of strictnesse of life Doe not make your selves guilty of other mens sins sins that cannot stand with Righteousnesse or that Charity which the Apostle requires so strictly 1 Cor. 13. without which all your other supposed Purity Faith or Knowledge is nothing will stand you in no stead Consider sadly how those you follow have led you from the Unity of this your Nationall Church and thereby from the profession of Catholick Primitive Truth from Obedienee to your lawfull Governors and Guides who bore the same Office taught the same Doctrine held the same way of publick Worship as did those martyrd Bishops in Primitive Times as did also those other in Queene Marie's dayes How I say they have led you from this Catholique Communion into a way of which whether Classicall or Congregationall we see the late and irregular beginning it being but the product of some tumultuary Reformations made in France Geneva Holland or Scotland and by those that would be contentious here imitated and violently attempted to the disturbance of this Church not without the down-right guilt of Schism and Sacriledge Consider it sadly and do as those Confessors did who being led away by the Novation Schismaticks under like pretence of purity and strictness as soon as they perceived their error confessed it and returned to the Unity of the Catholick Church as St. Cyprian often relates and propounds it as an example and motive for Unity Do you so and then may you obteine what you pretend was your aim and desire Purity and righteousnesse indeed which you cannot in the way of Schisme by reason it holds not a perfect Rule of Righteousness but such as is strict in denying small things and flying appearances of Evill but large in admitting great Offences teaching to straine at Gnats and swallow Camells to scruple at a Rite and Ceremony but makes no bones of Disobedience Schisme Sacriledge and so necessarily leaves your Consciences while ye are in that Communion defiled with your partaking in such sinnes But return into the Unity of this Church and shew your Communion with it in the publique worship of God Liturgy and Sacrament then may you perfect Holinsse in the feare of God and with good Conscience peforme all the parts of Purity and Righteousnesse And do it in Gods name according to all the Duties he requires of you and according to all the opportnuities he puts into your hands So will your Purity and Righteousnesse exceed that of the Pharisees and as many as walk after this Rule Peace be on them and Mercy and on the Israel of God Amen The End It holds the truth between Romanists and Sectaries In Catholick Practice and Tradition In the visible and invisible condition of the Church The Article touching the Church In the Papal Infallibility and private judgment In the due subordination of Pastors and Governors National-Church Reformation Publick or Private Actual Non-communion Schisme Difference of it in regard of the parties between which Difference in degrees of it Iust cause for Reformation Trial of a Church as to a safe communion with it A necessary Rule Such authority in the nationall Ch of Engl. VVhat makes a Church Christian Orthodox Protestant and reformed we have not cast off the Faith received Bishop of Rome his pretence to universall jurisdiction Impossible to make it good His special pretence to jurisdiction over this Chur Conclusion of the whole case as it stands with the Roman Church Difference 'twixt just and distempered Reformations 1. Church Government 2. Church Authority in making Decrees Orders 3. Force of Church-Custome 4. Vnion of charity 5. Admonition and rejection of Hereticks and Schismaticks Application of the Premises VVant of Purity Ancient Schismaticks had like pretence of purity VVhat is meant by a Bishop Force of universall practise or Catholick Tradition Presbytery Elders and Bishops Of the first Elders set in the Church by the Apostles No example or precept in Scripture for the Adversaries pretension The alteration of Church-government from Presbyterian to Episcopall not imaginable Of other reformed Churches which have not Bishops Our Liturgy how agreeing with the Mass-book Lawfulnesse of set Formes Expediency of set Forms in publick Expediency of Set Formes in publique Spirituall gifts to be used but with submission to the Chur Lords Prayer undervalued neglected Not burthensome or superstitious Vse of Ceremonies significant Standing up at Creed Ring in Marriage Cross in Baptisme Kneeling at the Sacrament Bowing at the name Circumstantialls of VVorship Objective terminations of VVorship and Circumstantiall Instances Confusion the Issue of Error having passed due bounds Confusion levelling upon levelling Self-Condemnation of the Pharisees How it concernes these days Gods Iudgements on Schism and Sacriledge VVhy God suffers Error so much to prevaile against Truth Confusion of boundless Error Punished often with its owne pretences Exhort to all that truly desire Purity which cannot be had truly in the state of Schisme
Churches as Jerusalem Antioch Rome Ephesus Corinth and this practice and succession setled before St. John the Apostle dyed All which as it clearly shewes those severall Angels of the severall Churches to whom our Saviour by Saint John did write could be no other then such Bishops having chief care of and rule in those Churches therfore more chargeable with the Corruptions prevailing in them So doth it clearly convince that plea of the Adversaries which amounts to a charging the first Bishops with Usurpation and invasion upon the right of Presbyters or particular Congregations to be a conceit altogether unreasonable for it is beyond all Imagination that Saint John would have suffered such an invasion or that those first Bishops who conversed with the Apostles and were their disciples should make such an invasion and immediately subvert the Apostolicall order pretended for the Presbyterian Consistory Or that those first Bishops being holy men and many of them Martyrs for still we finde the heathen Persecutors sought chiefly after the Bishop of the Church that the chief Pastor being smitten the flock might be more easily scattered should be so ambitious and unjust or lastly that the Presbyters then should be so tame as not once to complain of the wrong done them or to transmit their Protestation against it to Posterity To conclude this Tryal by Scripture It comes to this issue The Adversaries were bound to shew direct Authority of Scripture against Episcopal Government it being in possession established by the continued Authority of this Nationall Church and which is more by the perpetuall practice of the Catholick Church against this it was expected they should bring some places of Scripture forbidding that power of Ordination and Jurisdiction to be committed to speciall hands such as Bishops properly taken or commending it to the Consistory of Presbyters or some instances at least of that power exercised by such a company Whereas all they can evince out of Scripture is that there were Presbyters strictly so taken and of the inferiour rank which being granted them we shew there was a Prelacy still over such Presbyters still there were special men that had an inspection and rule over them and when the Apostles went off the practise of the Church shewes the power was left in the hands of special men called Bishops properly So that the Government of the Church by Bishops appears as was said above conformable not onely to the Universal practise of the Church after the Apostles time but also to the Word of God i.e. to the practise and patterns we have there 1. of our Saviour appointing twelve Apostles and besides and under them seventy Disciples of a lower rank 2. of Apostolical practise by which we find the power exercised by special Elders viz. the Apostles themselves or other choice men appointed thereunto by them whereas all Elders had power of the Ministry of the Word and Sacraments 3. of the several Angels of the several Churches to whom the Epistles were directed Rev. c. 2. 3. which is the last instance in holy Writ to this purpose §. XV Episcopacy most agreeable to the reason of Church-government Lastly The Government of the Church by Bishops was said above to be most agreeable to the reason of Church-government for preserving Unity and excluding Schism This is very obvious in the writings of the Fathers St. Cyprian had much to do with the Novatian Schismaticks of his time which caused him to write many Epistles upon that occasion and a Book intituled De Vnitate Ecclesiae wherein he shewes the Unity of the Church as to the preventing of Schisme stands much upon this that there be one Bishop in one Church St. Hierom whom they of the Presbyterian perswasion take for their best friend because he strives to advance the Order of Presbyters as much as he can yet as he denies the power of Ordination belongs to Presbyters so he acknowledges that Bishops were appointed over Presbyters to keep out Faction and Schism that the people should not say as they did at Corinth I am of Paul I of Apollos I of this Teacher I of that And for his saying of Presbyters that they did anciently communi consilio with joint advice rule the Churches is not to be understood exclusivè to the Bishop for such a time was never known in the Church but joyntly with him as his Council so were the Presbyteri Civitatis to the Bishop and their advice was more used and there was more cause for it before the many Canons and decrees of Councils gave rule in most particulars what the Bishop should do as it was by that time S. Jerom wrote and whatever he saith for the advancing of the order of Presbyters it is but to set them above all Deacons even those that immediately attended on the Bishop and it seems carried themselves too high it is not to equal them to Bishops whose Prelacy St. Jerome acknowledged and thought it very necessary for this purpose of keeping out Schism which the Parity of Presbyters would expose it to And I would appeale to the reason of any of that perswasion whether it were not more convenient and necessary for keeping all in order to have one aged grave learned and experienced in the way of the Church to be the standing Moderator of the Classis or company of Presbyters than to change their Moderator year by year and leave the place open to every young unexperienc'd Presbyter that can make a faction to advance him unto it I have heard this inconvenience complained on by some of the new erected Classes whereas a Bishop being such a Moderator as is fixed and above all competition is more enabled to keep all ordinary Presbyters in their station and within their bounds And then again I would demand whether the Apostles who complained of Divisions as in the Church of Corinth and of false Teachers there and elswhere were not careful to provide the most reasonable Expedient in government against them It cannot be denyed and upon this score and to this very end of preserving Schism it cannot be thought otherwise but that the Apostles gave beginning to this Government throughout the Church 1. Notwithstanding those of the Classicall perswasion bear themselves much upon Mr. Blondels Collections whose pains might have been better implyed to the use of the Church upon some other Argument For in this it is impossible to drive out of Antiquity though ransaked over again any more to the purpose of the Presbyterian claim than has been already acknowledged and the weakness of it discovered viz. That it seems to be the judgement of some Fathers that the name Bishop was at first common to all Elders and that those Bishops mentioned Phil. 1. 1. 1 Tim. 3. Tit. 1. were Presbyters or Elders of the second rank But what advantage is this to the cause they would establish without proving also that the power of Ordination and Government which we appropriate to
them to examine the purity of their Religion by the Apostles trial of it Jam. 1. ult. who thought good to omit the mention of these exercises because of the Pharisees seeking the esteem of holinesse by such performances because of Christians then as now in our Times resting too much on a fansy of their faith performance of such Exercises without works and deeds answerable And therefore the Apostle described pure Religion by such duties of Charity absteining from all spots of the world or works of the Flesh as make better proof of the sincerity of Religion If the making of Fatherlesse and Widdowes the turning men out of their Estates the invading of other mens Rights had by the Apostle been made the trial of pure Religion then might the Contentious of our dayes have pretended to Purity and Religion and have blessed the Lord that they were become rich though with the spoiling of others as they did Zech. 11. 5. but if Charity and denying of worldlinesse and lusts be the marks then let them try whether their way of Religion bring forth such fruits or be in a capacity to do it When the Romanists alledge the many pious and charitable works as building of Churches Colledges Hospitals Schools and the applying maintenance thereunto done by men in their Religion our pretenders to Purity will be ready to say it was the Doctrine of Merit that did it not reflecting upon themselves to consider what kind of Doctrine theirs is which pulls downe the Monuments of Piety and Charity and converts the publique to private use But when we shew that since the Reformation which cast out Popish merit as many good works for the computation has been made done in the like kinde as have been done in any one Age before we shew the fruits of our Religion and challenge theirs which onely can shew for their way and doctrines tend to no other issue a distempered zeal in destroying much of that which before was raised to pious uses and a self-seeking in the enriching themselves by the spoiles Swearing and drunkennesse the usuall and noted spots of the World are as it is fit very much declined in their way of purity but the Pharisee could say more he was no Extortioner no Adulterer and Saint James implied many other spots of the World which pure Religion must keep a man from and S. John 1. Ep. c. 2. 16. reducing the things of the world to three heads makes two of them the lust of the Eye and pride of Life and therefore tells us that Coveting Injustice Sacriledge and the Pride of life that either causes them or is maintained by them are the Exorbitant Iniquities of the world and therefore Spots which by S. James his rule will not consist with pure Religion I have been the longer upon this Argument because there is scarce any other thing by which the Devil hath gained more or the Church lost more than by this pretence of Purity the common plea of all Sects in all Times Now as to their Reply above that they could not have those duties of exercises of hearing praying in publique purely administred satisfaction will be given below when we come to consider of the offence they take at the Liturgy forms of publique Service Rites and Ceremonies used in and about Gods worship in this Church But first of their Exceptions against the Government it selfe for we charge them of separating or withdrawing their Obedience from their lawfull Pastors and Governours Such as Bishops were in this and in all the Catholique Church in all Ages XI Their Plea against the Government of this Chu. They plead it is no lawfull government of the Church but to be cast out as Antichristian This last contentious age has called the office of a Bishop into question and made a vast controversy of it I will not follow it at stretch but onely observe such grounds as Truth and Peace seems mainly to rest on and which every ordinary capacity may understand and receive satisfaction so far as to keep himself in the unity of the Church It is fitting therefore in the first place to remove the prejudice under which the Adversaries usually represent Bishops to vulgar eyes as men swell'd with their titles of Honour large Revenues attendance of Chancellors Commissaries Officials Lording it over the flock not feeding it Why persons Ecclesiasticall should be thought uncapable of the Honour or unfit for the means which the piety of former times has applyed unto them out of a religious respect I know no cause besides the ingratitude and sacrilegious disposition of this latter Age But to wave these Additionals as external to the very office of a Bishop and to passe by Abuses that might be in government through the iniquity of Persons and corrupter Times all which are capable of Reformation by due Authority that which is concerned in this Controversy is the Function and very office of a Bishop By the office be the times what they will he is set in the Church as a chiefe or more generall Pastor within such precincts or compasse commonly called a Diocesse having inspection and superintendency in which stands his Prelacy over particular Pastors and Flocks providing or ordaining such Pastors as need requires and doing all this with the advice and assistance of his Presbyters or some of the inferiour Pastors anciently called Presbyteri civitatis and they nothing without him Such an office will appeare to be conformable as to the perpetuall practise of the Catholick Church so to the Word of God and most agreeable to the reason of Church-government as to the preserving of Unity and keeping out Schisme the main concernments of the Church and therefore they must appeare also highly guilty of Sacriledge and Schisme that not onely deny obedience to the established Authority of this Office but have endeavoured to subvert the very Function it self §. XIII Episcopall Government is by universall Practise of the Chu First the practise of the whole Church in all Ages is against them Into this Island the Christian faith was received if not in the Apostles times as some think yet in the next age at farthest as all do acknowledge and with that faith the government by Bishops was received and ever since continued neither did the Catholique Church ever know any other Government till the last hundred yeares So the force of the Apostles argument 1 Cor. 11. 16. falls upon the Contentious of this Age and explodes their new way of ordaining Pastors and ruling their Churches without Bishops The Churches of God never had any such Custome yea in some Councils they declared against it upon occasion given by the presumption of some Presbyters that took upon them to ordaine as in the Case of Ischyras and some others ordained by one Coluthus who carried himselfe as a Bishop but was found to be none in Athanas Epist. certainly the lawfull Customes of any Nationall Church are by the Apostles reason binding to