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A18004 A discourse Wherein is plainly proued by the order of time and place, that Peter was neuer at Rome. Furthermore, that neither Peter nor the Pope is the head of Christes Church. Also an interpretation vpon the second Epistle of S. Paul to the Thessalonians, the second chapter. Seene and alowed according to the order appointed.; Discourse. Wherein is plainly proved by the order of time and place, that Peter was never at Rome. Carlile, Christopher, d. 1588? 1572 (1572) STC 4655; ESTC S107558 88,721 116

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against the hole land against the Preistes Kinges people and the mighty Princes of Iuda and such Tyrauntes Ieremy intreateth of in the end of his fystenth chapter If euery good man bée a lyuely stone as Peter him self writeth and all the congregation a Spirituall howse and the howse of God the piller and ground of truthe and lykewyse Christes own body and the fulnesse of him that filleth all thinges Than is not the Pope Cardinalles and Clergie the church and pillers in whom dwelleth no vertue Neyther Peter had any other keys than Adam Seth Noe Melchisedeck Abraam Iob Moses and all the faythfull had from the beginning The keys of the Kingdome of heauen are the opening and interpretacion of the Scripture What keye sayeth Tertullian in the .iiii. booke against Mar. had the Doctours of the Lawe saue interpretation Tertullian inuehing ageinst the Eustix affirmeth the keys to bée gyuen generally to all the which euery man whan hée departeth hence carieth with him Wherfore who so euer confesseth his sinnes repenteth and beléeueth in Christ hath these keyes wherwith hée openeth the locke and entereth intoo heauenly felicitie Euery man may bynde and loase him self Augustinus de doctrina lib. 1. cap. 8. sayeth Too binde is too perseuer in errour too procede in vyce too louse too repente him of his sinne beléeue that here in earth his sinnes shall bée forgiuen him And this is too bynd and louse The second Obiection Hée that giueth authoritie too the Church is supreme head But the Pope giueth authoritie to the church ergo hée is supreme head I deny your assumption called otherwyse the Minor. Wée proue it say they by S. Augustine who sayeth I wold not beléeue the Scriptures if the catholique church should not moue mée I answer This church that Augustine speaketh of is not the church of Rome and therfore the Pope giueth no authoritie to the church If Augustine had meaned the church of Rome then their argumēt myght haue semed to haue had a good ground But Augustine meaned the church of Christ as the Crede it self expoundeth it What is the Catholique Church The Crede answereth and interpreteth in these words A communion societie or companie of all Saincts and Godly men Nowe if Rome bée all the world and a communion of Saincts only then is it the only Church but it is neyther all the world neyther a communion of Saincts therfore it is not the Church Are shamefull synners Saincts horrible offenders Holy Augustine meaned by the Catholique Church Christ and his Disciples and the consent of all them which sawe Christ which heard him and his Disciples and therfore is it called in the common Crede of Nice the Apostolique church If Augustine did imagine that the Scriptures should take authoritie of the church it had bin an absurditie considering that there is no congregation so perfect no company so holy no men so pure which do not dayly desire God too forgyue them their offences as they forgyue them that offend against them If wée saye wée sinne not wée are lyers and there is no truth in vs. Let vs proue both by Reason which is the Lawe of Nature infixed in man Naturally and by Scripture that the Church doth take her authoritie of the Woord and not the Woord of the Church If Cleantes and other Philosophers as Tullie testifieth affirme partly by the Naturall motions of their myndes no doubt moued by inspiration that there is a GOD partly by the presciencie and foreknowledge of the thinges to comme partly by the commodities which proceede of the temperature of the ayer the plenty abundance of all thinges necessary for mans vse partly by tempestes thunder inundacions hayle lightening earthquakes stormes wonders miracles blasing starres eclipses of Sonne and Moone of the reuolution of the heauens of the constant and certein course of the fixed Starres and Planettes Than must wée confirme with Dauid and Paule that Gods power nature and diuinitie is knowen by visible thinges subiected to our senses If Dauid and Paule proue by the naturall courses of the heauens that there is a God neyther any people to bée so ignorant any Nati●n so rude any country so Barbarous which haue not heard their voyces for Dauid sayeth Their sound are gone through all the world Or as it is in the Hebrew Their rule course is knowē through all the world By a figure the sound voyce is attributed in the .19 Psal. to the heauens bycause they declare vntoo vs with their constant course mouing and other meruelous dispositions constellations and influences that there is a god And by this meanes Paule proueth the Gentyles to bée without excuse bycause they might haue knowen God by his creatures and dyd knowe but dyd not glorifye him as god By these it is euident that the heauens and Gods woounderous workes are not the causes why there is a God but God is the cause of them and they are as witnesses and testimonies that there must néedes bée a god And bycause al the Scriptures teache nothing else but God to bée the maker defender and gouerner of all wée are assured that they are the true scriptures bycause they agrée with this lawe of Nature wyth this Heauenly description and celestiall disposition wherby there is vnderstand to bée a god If Dauid and Paule prooue the diuinitie power and prouidence of God by his creatures so must wée allowe the scriptures by the same meanes bycause they differ not from the discourse Wherefore the church taketh no authoritie of it selfe but of God nor the scriptures any power of men whiche are full of erroures Wée knowe Moses Danyels Salomons Iobs woorkes and the rest of the scriptures to bée of force bycause they agrée with the rule of nature They are witnesses but no authours If a Lawyer aunswere by the Lawe hée dooth his dutie but if hée aunswere of his own brayne it is nought neyther will any man beléeue him Hée is a wicked Iudge that attributeth more to hys owne witte and will than to the lawe This doth the Pope contrarie to all the auncient Doctours and vertuous writers who affirme no man to bée beléeued onlesse hée alleadge the scriptures If an Ambassadour goe from one Prince to an other and be commaunded neyther to adde to his commission nor diminishe hée is a traytour if hée doo How much more the Pope who by his false embassage dooth not onely adde and diminishe where hee lusteth but also chaungeth peruerteth correcteth depraueth and abolissheth the Scriptures setting vppe hys owne constitutions and braynelesse Decréees The Prince to whome this Embassadour is sent cannot tell whether his commission is true or no but by conferring of the other Princes letters out of the which he must haue the truthe So must wée runne to the scriptures and trye by them whether the Pope and other impure spirits doo well in vsurping such authoritie The Church may bée a
probable but at the first there was no supremacie Ergo there should bée none The 24. Obiection Hée is the head of the church that giueth authoritie and licence to all the other Apostles to preache to bée priestes and to minister the seuen Sacramentes But Peter gyueth all these Ergo Peter is the head of the church Peter Palude is the authour of this argument a man of great woorship The 25. Obiection Hée is the head of the church whom the Chayre doothe blesse although hée were Iudas or a murtherer But the chayre blesseth the Pope ergo the Pope if hée were Iudas or a murtherer is the head of the church The 26. Obiection Hée that is God is the head of the church But the Pope is God ergo the pope is the head of the church The second proposition is proued by the authoritie in the margine The 27. Obiection Hée that is head of Angelles and Archaungelles is the head of the church But the Pope is the head of Aungelles and Archaungelles Ergo the Pope is the head of the church The Minor is proued in the margine The 28. Obiection Hée that is aboue the scripture is the head of the church But the Pope is aboue the scriptures ergo the Pope is the head of the church The assumption is proued by Siluester Prierias The 29. Obiection Hée is the head of the church that is the light of the world which illuminateth euery man that commeth into the world But the Pope is that light which illuminateth euery man that commeth into the world Ergo the Pope is the head of the Church The xxx Obiection He that hath aucthoritie to breake lawes is of more force then he that came not to breake lawes but the Pope came to breake the lawes and Christ came to fulfyll the lawes and not to breake them Ergo the Pope is the head of the Church The xxxi Obiection If there were nothing to proue the Pope to be head of the churche sauing his apparell and ornamentes yet surely they might perswade any man too beleue to maintaine and to glorifie our holie father the Pope dothe not Buechingerus and Inocentius Libro 3 de Altaris mysterio ca. 1. et 10. affirme that there are .9 special ornamentes his hose his shoes or sandalles his succynctory or girdell his Tunicle his Dalmatica or longe sleued Gowne his Metre his Gloues his Ring and Staffe In these consisteth the speciall power of the Pope euen to geue orders to blesse Maides to consecrate Bishopes to laye on handes to make grese or Chrisma to consecrate clothes and vessales to call Sinodes to dedicate Temples and to depose them that are disgraded and do many other merytorious workes What shall I speake of his two horned mitre of the hemmes of his garment of his crosse and staffe of his chimer and other vestements His shoes pardoned venyall sinnes his staffe hathe many vertues the crooked horne fetcheth in them that go astray the ende knocketh the obstinate refourmeth the disobedient What shall I speak of his breches and handkirchef Of his kniues and twoedged Swerds of his goulden hamer I haue spoken before I answer that theise more comend the Pope and set forth his prayse then his vertues do He glorieth in his apparell Paule in Christ his crosse he in outward things Paule in inward he in pompe Paule in pouertie he in vayne glory of the world Paule in the ioyes of Heauen Is not all this apparell corruptible will it not consume will not his crowne in tyme weare away and decay But the immortall crowne which Peter speaketh of will neuer You are not ashamed to put your trust in worldly things but in scriptures you put no trust them you cannot abyde Dooth not Iames Hocstrate in his booke intytuled Of praying to saints pronounce him to bée an heretique that flieth to the scriptures and that custome ought to bée followed before the scriptures bycause a common errour maketh a lawe We haue hitherto proued our holy father to be the head of the Militant Church here in earth though the Lutherians say that hée is head of the Malignant Church Now will wée proue that hée is the head of the Triumphant Church which is in Heauen The first Obiection HE is the head of the Triumphant Church that Canonizeth Sainctes and hath authoritie ouer Aungels that maketh of the triumphant church whom he listeth But the Pope dothe this Ergo he is the head I denie the Minor wée proue it Let vs sée if you find any day in the yeare dedicated to any Saincte which the Pope did not dedicate and consecrate Hée made the Apostles dayes the foure Ladye dayes made Corpus Christi a Sainct S. Peters cheynes S. Graue or S. Sepulchre S. seuen Sléepers s. Sonday s. Grimbold S. Chrisogon s. Gorgon s. Rooke s. Dunstone s. Thomas Becket whom King Henry dyd vnsainte and disgrade holy Iohn Shorne holy King Henry many a Prelate Bishop and Pope and in fine al his benefactours for whom he commaundeth euery Priest to pray for in his Canon of the blessed masse which we trust he will make a Sainct one day for surely she is our good Mistres she prospereth Prelats exalteth Hermits aydeth Hunters purgeth Pigs helpeth Hogs causeth raine and faire weather deliuereth out of Purgatorie and directeth generall councelles Finally she were as worthy to be a Sainct as any of them all I aunswere that the Pope taketh vpon him to doo and saye so But thinke you that hée can doo so Surely hée hath made some saincts that are deuilles and some that there were neuer none such What manner of Sainct is sainct Sondaye or Rymon or s. Gyners or s. Redygons or s. Apellinare for tootheache Ualentine for Louers Loe for Smithes Crispine Martine and Chrispinian for Shoemakers Nicolas and Cletus for Clarkes and yit many write ther was neuer none such as Cletus George for warriers Andrew for Scotlande Denis for Fraunce Iames or Iaques for Spayn about Louane Urbane whom they Crowne and cary about with great pompe to Tauernes if thei haue plentie of frutes if no they spitte vpon him they reuyle him throw him into the kennelles They painte with Iohn and Bernard the deuill with George like to the Egyptians a Crocodile with Rooke a dogge with Antony a sowe The Hollanders vse Paulyne as Louanians Urbane although that there bée no parte in mannes body so honest vnto the which the Pope hath not appointed a sainct and none so vncomely which hath not his saincte Neyther any absurditie that you can name but they haue a sainct for it yet say they the Pope cannot erre although it is euident that he Canonizeth as they saye these Sainctes booth contrarie to Scriptures Councelles and Doctoures It is in sainct Paule that if God onely iustifyeth who can condempne can the Pope Thus I reason Hée that cannot iustifye a man hée cannot Canonize But the Pope cannot iustifye Ergo hée
Ephes. 5. ver 23. The Church Confer the .2 to the Cor 11. ver 2. to the Rom. cap. 7. ver 3. Gala. 2. ver 11 Math. 16. ve 23. After hee had sayd to Peter and vpon thee I will ●wilde my church he calleth him Sathan And Paule reproued him after this Gala. 2. ve 14 Ergo the Pope may and doth erre Iohn 6. ve 71 Apoca. 21. ver 9.10 Ma. 17. ver 4 Leo the 10. Pope Busgradus And B. 1. Cor. 3 ver 1● Mat 22. ve 26 Luk. 22. ve 16 Math. 26. ver 34. Luk. 9. ve 18 Iohn 23 Pope denounced thē too bee heretiques the affirmed y Christ had no worldly substance Psal. 8. ve 67 Mat. 26. ver 51. Gal. 2. ver 11 1. Cor. 15. ver 6. M●n● Popes a● once to many to be good The place maketh the Pope holy Epis● Peter cap. 1. ver 1. Gen. 49. ver 33. Luk. 16. ve 22 Ge. 35. ver 29. Da. 12. ver 13 Luc. 23. ve 43 The Historie Luc. 4. ver 17 1. Cor. 14. Theodoret. vpon the 1. to the Cor. 14. Decree .5 titule .8 cap. 14 A Byshop An Elder Philip .1 ve 1 Deacons 〈◊〉 Martir saieth 〈◊〉 ●ho was in the yeare of Christe .145 Beza vpon the 〈◊〉 the Philip ver 1. Metropolis Carthage 〈◊〉 Calcedo 〈◊〉 An●iochine counsell Nycene coun●cel in the yere of Christ .324 or 326. or 328. Constantinople councell 2. Anno Christi ●83 Rome was not superior nor ye● the Pope Uielerius de stat primat ecc●●si● Arche bishops c. Nicene councell cap. 7. Iust. nouell constitu 123 The 1. councel at Constantinople ca. 3. Uielerius Calcedon councell cap. 28. Iohn Byshop of constanti alias maleface The first that called himself Pope Boniface .3 Phocas Mat. 4. ver 6 Psal. 91. ver 11.12.13 Math. 16. ve 18. Christs is the rock● and not Peter Math. 16. ve 18. euery faithfull man is a Peter 1. Cor. 10. ve 4 Peter The Church 1. Timothe 3. ver 15. 1. Peter 2. ve 5. Matth. 5. ver 13. Math. 18. ver 15. To winne a mans Brother Ma. 18. ver 18 To bynde and l●●se The Keyes Math. 18. ver 20 Tertullian in his booke de Castitate 1. Cor. 3. ve ● Esay 5. ver 1. 1. Cor. 3. ve 9 Peter Origins 1. Cor. 10. ve 4 Marc. 3. ve 17 Math. 16. ver 18. Ephes. 3. ver 20. Math. 19. ve 19. Math. 16. ver 13 14.1● Psichicus like the Pope Tertul in libr de cast Ma. 18. ve 22 Iohn 1. ver 4 8.9 Iohn 8. ve 12 Iohn 6. ve 51 1. Cor. ●0 ve 4 Ma. 5. ver 14 Math. 16. ve 18. Hierom vpon the .38 of Esai Hell. Gates Gen. .22 ve 17 Iob. 31. ve 21 Ierē 1. ve 18 Math. 16. ver 18 1. Peter 2. ve 5 1. Timoth. 3. ver 15. Ephes. 1. ver 23. The keys of heauen Math 18. ver 18.19 To bynde To louse The Catholique church 1 Epist. Iohn cap. 1. ver 8. The churches authoritie of the woorde ●e natura 〈◊〉 2. ve 3 〈◊〉 1. Psal 19. ve 1.123 Paule Rom. ● ve 30. Cicero 〈…〉 Rom. 1. ve 20 And as the woorked of God are not the causes why there is a God but as witnesses so is the Churche a witnes but no cause the Churche a witnes Augustine interpreteth him ●●lfe Lira vpon the 1. of Iohn Cephas saith Lire 15. Capitan Ibidem Anacletus Iohn i. ve 42 Euthim. vpō this place Iohn 1. ve 42 Matt. 10. ver 2. Mar. 3. ver 16. Luc. 6. ve 14. Act. 18. ve 26. Cor. 11. ver 3. 1. Iohn ve 4● The same wrote Paule the 4 pope of that name in the yere of Christ 1556. the .4 day of may in his bul which I sawe in prynte psal 91. ver 13. Theodoret Chrisostome vpon the .13 to the Rom. Psal. 8. ve 6.7 Cent. 7. c. 7. p. ●29 linea 52. Proue 24 ve 16. 1. Iohn 1. ve 8 Eneas Siluius libro 1. .2 1 Peter 5. ve 3. matt 18. ve 17. Luc 22 ver 32. Iohn 17. ve 9 Luc. 23. ve 34 Augustine vppon the psalmes Mat. 26. ver 75. Galat. 2. verse 11.14 Iohn 21. ver 16.17 Act. 20. ver 22 23. Act. 20. ver 28 Pope Calixtus dist 12. ca. non decet Matt. 18. ver 19. Matt. 18. ver 19. Act. 1. ver 4 Act. 6. ve 5. Act. 15. ve 18 Bonifacius extra de maior et obed c. vna in An Article of the faith Mat. 5. ve 3 An. 1387. Hierim 1. ver 10. Pope Bonif. 8. extra c. vnā Sanctam Pope Ioh 22 e●tra c. supra Gentes Rome ouer al Nacions The Pope Lord of Lords Iohn 1. ve 11 marke howe the Papistes depraue the Scr●ptures Pope Nico● dist C. inferior Gloss. extra de sede vacant ad Apostolatus ▪ Pope leo causa 1.4.7 c. nos numbers .22 ver 27.28.29 The pope balaam Hugo in glo●t dist 40. ca. non nos dist 4 ca. si papa Exod. 26. ver 13.14.15 Act. 8. ver 9 1. Timot. 1. ve 9.10 1. Cor. 6. ver 9 August de an co●a glos ord Antony ▪ sūme maior 3 part dist 22. Hostiens in ca. quar de translat proel ex summa casuum Fratris baptist Antonius 23. q. 5. ca. ●mniū Glos. in causa ●1 q. 3. cap. absit 1. Thess. 5. ve 22. Glos in causa ●● q. 3. ca. absit ●● Ge. 4. ve 8. Hebr. 7. ver 2. Heb. 7. ver 3.11.15.16.17 Heb. 5. ver 6. Psa. 110. ve 4. Heb. 7. ver 3. 1. Reg. 9. ver 22. 1. Reg. 18. ver 40. Luc. 9. ver 18. Fundamenta de elect in sexto Iulius 2. Iulius 3. Many of the first learned men whom they call Popes put to death Papa stupor mu●di Galfridus in Clement Apoc. cap. 17. ver 3.4.5 2. Thes. 2. ve 4. Glos. in prohemio vi decre●e in verbo boniface Polidor libro .4 cap. 30. Plat. volat Luc. 20. ve 25. Iames de terra Iohn 1● ver 32. Augustinus de ancona 〈◊〉 Antonius tit 22. ca. 17. after Christ 1330. Luc. ●0 ver 25· Rom. 13. The Popes power 2. Keyes 3. Crownes A golden hammer Beza vpon 2. Thess. 2 ve 4. Two sword● The Pope aboue all power Peter the head of the church The Pope aboue all Causa 9. ques 3. c. patet vilierius de stat priuat eccles c nemo ●● ques 4. dist 40. c. si Papa et ca. 2. eiusdem dist Rufus Peter no vis Math. 20. ve 26. 2. Thess. 2. ve 8. Nicolaus the Pope The Pope is God. Matt. 24. ver 15. 2. Thess. 2. ver 3. Iob. 40. ve 10. Ieremy 5. ver 10. 2. Cor. 6. ver 15. Psal. 22. ve 16. Apo. 12. ver 3. 2. Timothe 3. ver 4. Ioh 6. ve 7● Iohn 10. ve 1. Za. 11. ver 17. Iohn 10. ver 12. Esau. 27. ver 1. E. 27. ver 1. Bembus libra 13. Ioueus lib. 8. The Pope can make of nothing some thing
Anacletus were chiefe citties Metropoles where were Archiflamines and Protoflamines and therfore Pontianus in Atheneus calleth vinum omnium malorum Metropolin and so say these forged Archiflamines were turned into Archibishoppes Because that the first Emperours were at Rome therefore it was called ta presbeia t is timis that is the chief honour was gyuen to Rome It was the first and Constantinople was the second Of this equalitie or Superioritie or inferioritie read the Councell holden at Chalcedon in the yeare of Christe .453 And Vielerius where it was concluded that Constantinople was of the same authoritie with Rome though it be the second after and Alexandria the third and Hierusalem the fourthe In the yeare of Christ 590. Ihon Bishope of Constantinople ambitiously desired to be Supreme head oikoumenikon pasis t is oikoumenis the Uniuersall Bishoppe of the whole world that was habitable And therefore Gregorie the firste Bishop at Rome of that name called the same Iohn the forerunner of Antichriste Epist. lib. 2. cap. 194. Halfe a score yeare after or little more Boniface the Thirde of that name was made Bishop at Rome and the firste that was ordeined or named Pope or Summus Pontifex the Highe Bishop and this dyd the Emperoure Phocas to haue ayde of the Pope which killed the Emperour Mauritius his wyfe his brother and his sonne with many other and made himselfe Emperour The Pope had this beginning After him euery Pope encreased his authoritie with priuiledges statutes decrées and preceptes tyll that they grewe to such dignitie that they created Emperoures who were wont to create them they deposed them they fought with them they trode on their neckes they rebelled ageynst thē they cursed them with booke bell and candell lighted they pardoned them all that would fight ageinst the Emperour The first Obiection They alledge Scripture for their purpose as the deuill dyd to christ They obiect this place of the Gospell written by Saint Matthew Thou art Peter and vpon this Peter I will buyld my Church Peter saye they is the foundacion of the Church of him it dependeth in him it resteth and hée is the head thereof Let vs aunswere this Obiection with the true Interpretation and Exposition of Chrystes mynde Thou art Peter c. Thy name sayeth Christ is Symon but hencefoorth it shal be Peter a Rocke or stone or rather one depending of the rocke as I promised in the first of Iohn ver 42. that thou shouldest bée called Cephas a stone but I alter it into Peter bycause thy name shal be deryued of mée For I am Petra and thou Peter I Chryst and thou a christian I a Rocke and thou rockye or buylded vpon the rocke The Allusion and affinetie of the Gréeke woord proueth this sense sy ei petros c. Thou arte Peter bicause thou beléeuest in Petra that is in mée the Rocke vpon the which I will buylde my congregation whom I will to bée called Peters as thou arte deriuing their name of mée the rocke bycause who soeuer shal beléeue in mée as thou doest I will gyue him the same name that thou hast Wherefore who so confesseth mée as thou doest shal be called Peter of mée Petra that is a christian of my name Christ. Hierom vpon the 8. of Mathew affirmeth that Peter had his name of Petra which is christ All are Peters which beléeue in this Rocke I will buylde my famelie and congregation vpon it wherfore al my famelie and people are Peters Peter in this place is put for all christians and is a generall woorde signifying all beléeuers and confessoures of Christe Therefore Hierome vppon the sixte of Amose termeth all christes Apostles Peters And the Christ founded not his church vpō Peter as our Romish catholiques cōtend but vpon this rocke which was Peters confession yée shal vnderstand by the text it self What was his cōfession that Iesus christ was the sonne of god Than this fayth of peters is the foundaciō of the church cleauing to Christ which foundacion Paul defineth to be Christ 1. Cor. 3. ver 11. This church congregation bycause it confessed the same Christ that Peter did is very well termed described by Paule to be the establishmēt and piller of truth and by good reason considering it is defined to bée Christes body out of whose head is deriued whatsoeuer nourisheth the body Who soeuer hath this fayth and is a member of Christes body is a Peter As Christ is called a stone so are his people and seruauntes named lyuely stones by participacion as they are the light of the world and salte of the earth bycause the light and salte that they haue is deriued and procéedeth from him as of Petra Peters of Chryst christians That this is the true meaning of this place it is euident hy the 18. chapter of Matthew ver 15. where the same doctrine is applied to all Christians whan hée sayeth If thy brother trespasse ageynst thée tell him his faulte betwéene thée and him If he heare thée thou hast wonne thy brother What is it too winne a mans brother but to loose him from his sinne wherwith hée was bound By the which if hée will not bée corrected lette him bée as an Heathen and a Publicane And thus hée is bound bycause hée wil not repent For sayeth Christ speaking to all christians what soeuer yée binde or loose vpon earth shalbée bound and loosed in heauen Adam and Eue in Paradise were the true church who when they heard the promise how that the séede of the wooman Iesus Christ should burst the Serpentes head beléeued it vpon y which beléefe Christ buylded his congregation and this is the Rocke They did binde themselues in eating of the frute in not obeinge the cōmaundement in offending the lawe They loused themselues in confessing their faulte obeying chrystes voyce lamentinge their facte and beléeuing in him who should bée borne of the séede of a wooman their faith confession of their offence with amendment of lyfe were the keyes of heauen By them they repossessed their felicitie which was lost and reentred into heauen Christ graunted to twoo or thrée gathered togyther in his name their requestes and hée to bée among them If this power and prerogatiue bée equall and particularly gyuen to euery christian and generally to all than is it not onely proper to the Pope If all the congregation may binde and loose then is the Popes authoritie nothing and hée himselfe to be excluded as a reprobate abhorred as a dissembler defaced as an hipocrite reiected as Psichicus in Tertullian was who bragged as the Pope dooth that he had authoritie to forgyue sinnes deposed as an vsurper and condemned as an Antichrist ▪ The congregation is buylded vpon the rock Who is the Rocke Christ not the Pope faith in Iesu Christe not execrable pardones hope in the Lorde not in man. If the Churche
For where it is in Iohn that Christ by his death should ouercom death hell and all the world hée applieth it to the Pope of whom Iohn did not once dreame onlesse hée prophecied of him amongs other Antechristes in his Epistles whom hée there describ●th And as for the place of Luke it is to be vnderstanded of Ciuill and temporall Magistrates and not of Spirituall and Mysticall inu●ntoures of Iniquities and so vnderstandeth Chrysostom Origen and Theodoret vpō the .xiij. chapter of S. Paule to the Romanes prouing that all Bishopes such as wée call Spirituall men must needes bée vnder the Iurisdiction of Ciuill Magistrates obey them and paye them Tribute Besides this this Iames proueth as Augustinus de Ancona did .lxxx. yeares before him that the Pope had not only authoritie ouer all Kinges and Emperours that were Christend but also ouer Turkes Paymins bycause that Christ gaue his full authoritie too the Pope when hée ascended that Iuditiary power for these are his termes ouer euery creature because that hée left the Pope both the keyes Temporall and Spirituall The sixth Obiection Hée is the head of the Church that hath twoo keyes the one too open Heauen gates to his friendes the other to shutte out his ennemies And hée hath thrée Crownes bycause that hée is a Kinge a Cesar and a Bishoppe or rather bycause bée hath authoritie in Heauen Hell and Purgatorie or els as Gregorius Doctor Hispanus did preache in Cambredge hée sayd that the Pope was counted in Spayne the Father the Sonne and the holy Ghost that was signified by his thrée crownes Moreouer in euery yeare of Iubile hée hath a golden hamer wherwith hée knocketh at the gates of Paradise Is this no preeminence is not hée the head that hath this authoritie I graunte that the flattering Glosers of the Canon lawe wryte such thinges but they are too foolish too bée credited too false and absurd too bée approued too ridiculous too bée aduouched and to detestable to bée admitted The 7. Obiection Hée that hath both the temporall and spirituall swoorde must néedes bée the head of the church but the Pope hath bothe Ergo hée is the head of the church I denie the Minor wée proue it thus Doo you not reade that Boniface the eight Pope of that name came out in a solemne feast daye in the apparel of a Bishop as gloriously as euer was Aaron with the spirituall swoord to frame the Spiritualtie withall And on an other feast day hée came out in the apparel of the Emperour with great pompe and glorie with a naked swoord shaking it and saying This is my swoord to correct the Temporall withall yea euen Kinges Princes and the Emperour I aunswere that this hée dooth by this rule Sic volo sic iubio stat pro ratione voluntas For that hée dyd without reason or authoritie The 8. Obiection Is not hée the head of the church that is aboue Kings Cesars and Councelles and aboue the whole world Innocent 9. quest 3. gloss ibi vlt. ext de elect significasti The 9. Obiection And though all the worlde should gyue sentence ageynst the Pope notwithstanding his sentence must stand bycause that hée maye dispense with all thinges Iud. Glossat de Capell Papa si vult c. The 10. Obiection The Pope is aboue all Councelles and Statutes de elect cap. signif I aunsw●re If his authorities bée aboue councels then councelles bée vayne and néede not when as wée may goe to the head and spring who is aboue eyther councelles or Lawes For you say that all the lawes are in the chest of the Popes brest But wée credit not these sayinges bycause they are made by Popes without authoritie eyther of Gods woorde or of olde Doctors Wherefore this is that Antichrist that is described in the Reuelation cap. 13. cap. 17. cap. 18. The 11. Obiection Hée that hath the same authoritie that Peter had is the heade of the church But the Pope hath the same authoritie that Peter had Ergo the Pope is the head of the church I denie the Maior for Peter was not the head of the church nor any better then the other of the Apostles Moreouer Peter was a meere man and a meere man was not the head of a spirituall church The 12. Obiection Is not hée aboue all that can dispence with the law of nature with Moses with the olde Testament with the new Testamēt with Christ Peter Paule and the rest of the Apostles I aunswere that none doth so but ▪ Antichrist For of Antichrist Paule writeth so in the second epistle to the Thessalonians the second chapter ver 4. But you say the Pope doth so Ergo the Pope is Antichrist The 13 Obiection There may no man Iudge of the the Popes dooinges neyther the Clergie neyther Kinges neyther Emperours ▪ Shal the Iudge of all bée iudged of any Is it not knowen through all the world that the church of Rome doth iudge all the worlde and it may bée iudged of none who dare dispute of the Popes dooinges who doubteth of the Popes holynesse who is in such authoritie If hée lacke goods déedes or any other thing it is ynough for him to trust in the predecessours of that place These blasphemies answereth Paule in the second to the Thessalonians second chapter ver 4. where hée writeth that this Antichrist maketh hym selfe God. The xiiii Obiection Remundus rufus a noble defendor of the holy Sea of Rome reasoneth thus the Pope is the cheife because he is the first in tyme reuerence and power In time for Peter was at Rome the fyrste Pope in reuerence for who is too be reuerenced more then he in power what Bishop what Prelate what Monarche is to be compared to him I answere to the firste that Peter was neuer at Rome and therefore was neither firste Pope nor last at Rome moreouer Paule was at Rome before him by the testimoni of their owne wryters And Peter was no bishop ergo no bishop of Rome Peter was an Apostle and no bishop A bishop kept in a certain place an Apostle went aboue euery where As for his reuerence what reuerence should the Pope haue aboue others if he wil be first hée must be last as Christ writeth As concerning his power what is it Who gaue it to him He is or ought to be a seruaunt no lorde a minister no maister a member of the body and not the head What if Rome were vtterly destroyed by the Turke as it may be and the Popes name glory dignitie and memory cleane extinguished where should the Romish church be where should bée all hir decrées should not all bée vtterly abolished shall not Christ destroy him with the sprite of his mouth The .xv. Obiection Do you not remember what Nicolaus the first Pope of that name did wryte He sayed and also determined that no christian magistrats should haue any
better then God. The Maior is proued by this principle of Lodgike The cause efficient is better then the effect The second proposition is proued by this Silogisme That which a priest can do the Pope can do The priest can make God Ergo the Pope can make God. The Maior of this Argument is proued by the same principle of Lodgike that the other former Argument was The second proposition is proued by this Argument He that can make the Sacrament of the Alter can make God The Priest can make the Sacrament of the Aulter Ergo a Priest can make God. The Maior proposition is proued by this place Hoc est corpus meum quoties cunque feceritis c. The second proposition is proued by daily massing by the words and déedes of many a priest who will not stick to saye that they haue made him an hundreth tymes and no lesse I aunswer That consequentlie it followeth by these Arguments of the Papists that the Pope is better then God and also elder then either God or the world Obiection He that can remitte sinnes is God The Pope can remitte sinnes Ergo the Pope is God. The Maior is in Luke the .5 verse .21 The Minor is proued by this Argument He that can giue the holy Ghost can remitte sinnes The Pope can giue the holy Ghost Ergo the Pope can remitte sinnes The Maior is in the .1 Thessalo 4. ver 8. in the which place it is said that God giueth the holy Ghost and as God can giue the holy Ghost so can he remitte sinnes by these words Luc. 5. verse .21 Solus deus condonat peccata The Minor is proued by his orders giuen too priests where hée sayeth Accipite Spiritum Sanctum I aunswer He that cannot giue the holy Ghost is not God The Pope cannot giue the holy Ghost Ergo the Pope is not God. The Maior is proued by an Argument Ex repugnantibus The Minor I proue thus Rom. 3. ver 23. No sinner can giue the holy Ghost The Pope is a sinner Ergo the Pope cannot giue the holy Ghost The Maior is proued thus He that is not of God cannot giue the holy Ghost No sinner is of God Ergo no sinner can giue the holy ghost The minor is proued thus Hée that is not of God is of the Deuill hée that is of the Deuill cannot giue the holy ghost Ergo hée that is not of God cannot giue the holy ghost The minor is proued in the 1. of Iohn the 3. ca. ve 8. and the firste of Iohn ver 18. Obiection Hée that can forgiue sinnes is God The Pope can forgiue sinnes Ergo the Pope is God. The first Proposition is proued by this text of Luke chapter .5 ver 21. Onlie God forgiueth sinnes The .2 Proposition I wil proue by an Argument à minore ad maius Hée can forgiue sinnes whose shoes can forgiue sinnes The Popes shoes can forgiue sinnes Ergo hée can forgiue sinnes I proue the minor by the Cannon Law wher it is written that his shoes are of suche authoritie that if an excomunicated persone kisse them his sinnes are forgeuen him I answere Hée that cannot forgiue sinnes is not God The Pope cannot forgiue sinnes Ergo the Pope is not God. The first Proposition is proued by the former text of Luke chap. 5. verse 21. Only God forgiueth sinnes The second Proposition I will proue by this Argument Who is conceiued in sinne and borne in sinne Cannot forgiue sinne The Pope is conceiued in sinne and borne in sinne Ergo the Pope cannot forgiue sinne The Maior is proued by the 21. verse of the 5. chapter of Luke The seconde Proposition is proued by the 51. psalme verse .5 Beholde I was c. Obiection Hée which can abolish Christes doctrine and establish his owne is better then Christe The Pope can abolish Christ Doctrine establish his owne Ergo the Pope is better then Christe The fyrst proposition is of force of it selfe The Minor is proued by theise places of the Cannon law Dist. 17. in gloss de transl ▪ episcop quando persona And also by this Sillogisme Hée whose doctrine doth so far passe Christes doctrine as the kernell the shell the Sonne the Moone and lighte darknes may abolishe Christs and establishe his owne But the Popes doctrine doth so far passe Christs as the kernell the shell the Sonne the Moone and light darknes Ergo the Pope may abolishe Christes doctrine The first proposition is euident The second is proued by Guilielme de S Amore in lib. de periculis nouissimorum temporum ca. 8. and by Antilogia and by Chancer in the Romant of the Rose I aunswer Hée that doth abolishe Christes doctrine and establishe his owne is Antechriste But the pope abolisheth Christs doctrin establisheth his own Ergo the Pope is Antechrist therfore not better thē Christ. The first proposition is proued by the 1. of Iohn 2. verse 24. and the ● of Iohn 4. verse .3 The second proposition is proued by their owne writinges and preachinges for Friers which are the Popes taile in the yeare of our Lord 1355. preached openly and made also a booke called Euangelium aeternum or Euangelium spiritus sancti wherin they endeuored to proue that Christ was not God neither his Gospell Euerlasting but should only continew 50. yeares and then theires should take place wherin was comprehended all superstition Idolatrie as praing to saints Purgatorie masses pilgramages c. Guilielmi de S. amore in lib. de picul nouis ▪ temp ca. 8. and by Antilogia ▪ and Chancer in the Romant of the Rose Obiection Hée that is docter of both the lawes I meane ciuill and common is better then hée that is docter of neither But the Pope is doctor of both and Christ of neither Ergo the Pope is better then Christ. The first proposition is proued by the degrées of bothe his doctorshippes The second is proued by the aucthoritie of Baldus in Codice Who sayeth that he is doctor of both Lawes in authoritie though not in knowledge I aunswer Some man that is doctor of neither Law is better then the Pope that is doctor of both Lawes But Christ was some man and doctor of neither Law. Ergo Christ doctor of neither Lawe is better than the Pope that is doctor of both Lawes I proue the Maior by this Argument He that is lesser then Christe in knowledge is not so good as Christ. But the Pope though doctor of both Lawes is lesser then Christ in knowledge Ergo the Pope is not so good as Christ. The Maior is proued amaiore ad minus The Minor by this Sillogisme He that knoweth not all things is lesser then Christe in knowledge But the Pope knoweth not all things Ergo he is lesser then Christ in knowledge That Christ knoweth all I proue by this argument He that is God knoweth all things Christ is God Ergo he knoweth all things Obiection He that is Iudge both