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〈◊〉_d romana_fw-la athanasius_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hist_o cap._n 〈…〉_o s._n 〈◊〉_d basil_n &_o augustine_n style_v thâ—se_a writing_n â—â—ving_v his_o counterfeit_a calixius_n at_o rome_n make_v these_o book_n canonical_a it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o be_v so_o term_v in_o respect_n of_o other_o corrupt_a writing_n which_o be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n which_o practice_n be_v except_v against_o by_o the_o three_o council_n of_o carthage_n 〈◊〉_d as_o it_o be_v urge_v by_o the_o jesuite_n wherein_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n under_o the_o name_n of_o divine_a scripture_n and_o i_o think_v you_o will_v not_o conceive_v this_o inhibition_n have_v any_o relation_n to_o any_o of_o those_o book_n we_o call_v apocryphal_a they_o be_v never_o condemn_v to_o be_v read_v by_o the_o church_n beside_o bellarmine_n tell_v we_o the_o title_n of_o divine_a â—â—_o give_v by_o most_o 〈◊〉_d and_o most_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o prayer_n 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〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la idâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d ciâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—ordium_n cuâ—â—que_fw-la diligeâ—ter_fw-la de_fw-fr omnibus_fw-la exploraverat_fw-la omni_fw-la investigatione_n comperit_fw-la hos_fw-la libâ—â—â—_n esse_fw-la a_o veteris_fw-la instrumenti_fw-la be_o in_fw-la psalmum_fw-la â—â—â—_o sed_fw-la &_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d caâ—_n â—â—_o audacious_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n as_o to_o claim_v the_o privilege_n to_o â—â—eepe_v into_o the_o canon_n beside_o he_o be_v as_o foâ—d_v in_o the_o consequent_a that_o they_o have_v make_v no_o change_n herein_o from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d church_n unless_o we_o can_v show_v that_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o god_n do_v give_v judgement_n or_o sentenâ—â—_n contrary_a to_o their_o trent_n declaration_n in_o a_o general_a council_n for_o if_o this_o be_v good_a reason_n the_o council_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d the_o 3._o 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be_v plain_a and_o convince_a for_o almost_o â—â—â—_o year_n 〈◊〉_d christ_n second_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d catalogue_n
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church_n from_o the_o 〈◊〉_d write_v a_o whole_a book_n purposely_o of_o this_o argument_n wherein_o he_o show_v that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o cause_n to_o be_v assign_v of_o this_o distraction_n but_o that_o the_o pope_n will_v not_o permit_v the_o cognisance_n of_o the_o controversy_n unto_o a_o general_a council_n but_o will_n needs_o sit_v himself_o as_o the_o alone_a teacher_n of_o the_o point_n in_o question_n and_o have_v other_o hearken_v unto_o he_o as_o if_o they_o be_v his_o scholar_n and_o that_o this_o be_v contrary_a both_o to_o the_o ordinance_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o the_o father_n thereunto_o we_o may_v add_v the_o testimony_n of_o their_o own_o cassander_n consult_v art_n 7._o de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la vera_fw-la neque_fw-la unquam_fw-la credo_fw-la controversia_fw-la apud_fw-la nos_fw-la de_fw-la externa_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la unitata_fw-la extitisseâ—_n nisi_fw-la pontifices_fw-la romani_fw-la hâc_fw-la authoritate_fw-la ad_fw-la dominationis_fw-la quandam_fw-la speciem_fw-la abusi_fw-la fuissent_fw-la eamque_fw-la extra_fw-la fine_n à _fw-la christo_fw-la &_o ecelesia_fw-la peaescriptos_fw-la ambitionis_fw-la et_fw-la cupiditatis_fw-la causâ_fw-la â—utulissent_fw-la but_o return_v again_o to_o the_o answer_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o our_o answerer_n allege_v for_o himself_o the_o example_n of_o s._n cyprian_n who_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o african_a bishop_n dissent_v from_o the_o pope_n and_o church_n of_o rome_n without_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o catholic_a communion_n to_o which_o the_o jesuite_n reply_n that_o this_o be_v easy_o answer_v forasmuch_o as_o the_o point_n wherein_o s._n cyprian_n do_v vary_v from_o the_o pope_n be_v not_o declare_v by_o the_o church_n until_o after_o s._n cyprian_n death_n and_o therefore_o it_o may_v have_v be_v maintain_v without_o any_o breach_n of_o catholic_n unity_n 80_o unity_n reply_v pag._n 80_o what_o he_o speak_v concern_v the_o church_n declaration_n will_v have_v a_o more_o fit_a place_n hereafter_o but_o to_o show_v how_o little_a the_o jesuite_n have_v speak_v for_o his_o cause_n we_o may_v first_o consider_v that_o cyprian_n opinion_n be_v condemn_v by_o your_o pope_n &_o his_o council_n &_o the_o contrary_n define_v rebaptizarentur_fw-la define_v bellar._n l._n 2._o the_o council_n c._n 5._o constat_fw-la cornelium_n papam_fw-la cum_fw-la nationali_fw-la concilio_n omnium_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la italiae_fw-la statuisse_fw-la non_fw-la debere_fw-la haereticos_fw-la rebaptiâ—â—ri_fw-la et_fw-la eundem_fw-la sententiam_fw-la postea_fw-la approbasse_n stephanum_n papam_fw-la et_fw-la jussisse_fw-la ut_fw-la haeretici_fw-la non_fw-la rebaptizarentur_fw-la yea_o s._n cyprian_n himself_o excommunicate_v and_o so_o severe_o deal_v withal_o by_o pope_n stephen_n that_o he_o will_v not_o admit_v the_o african_a legate_n to_o speak_v with_o he_o but_o style_v cyprian_n a_o counterfeit_n say_v that_o christ_n do_v deny_v any_o communion_n to_o be_v hold_v with_o he_o rebaptizant_n he_o cassander_n consult_v be_v 7._o cùm_fw-la stephanus_n episcopus_fw-la romae_fw-la utbis_fw-la cyprianum_n quoth_v in_o ipso_fw-la erat_fw-la repelleret_fw-la &_o episcoposaâ—_n ipsum_fw-la ex_fw-la africâ_fw-la legatos_fw-la nec_fw-la ad_fw-la sermonem_fw-la communis_fw-la colloquij_fw-la admitteret_fw-la &_o praecip_n eret_fw-la universae_fw-la fraternitati_fw-la ut_fw-la venientibus_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la pax_fw-la &_o communio_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o tectum_fw-la &_o hospitium_fw-la negaretur_fw-la insuper_fw-la &_o cyprianum_n pseudo_fw-la christum_fw-la &_o dolo_fw-la sum_fw-la operarium_fw-la diceret_fw-la haec_fw-la scribit_fw-la firmilianus_n episcopus_fw-la è_fw-la cappadociâ_fw-la ad_fw-la cyprianum_n cujus_fw-la firmiliani_fw-la meminit_fw-la eusebius_n histor_n 6_o l._n c._n 25._o &_o l_o 7._o c._n 13._o ad_fw-la quem_fw-la stephanus_n scripsit_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la communicandum_fw-la ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la ad_fw-la haereticos_fw-la transcuntes_fw-la rebaptizant_n all_o which_o do_v not_o make_v the_o declaration_n of_o the_o church_n in_o augustine_n opinion_n so_o that_o we_o may_v easy_o perceive_v that_o augustine_n do_v not_o think_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v the_o church_n or_o his_o declaration_n to_o be_v the_o church_n definition_n and_o indeed_o what_o toil_n do_v vincentius_n lyrinensis_n novat_fw-la lyrinensis_n advers._fw-la profane_v novat_fw-la take_v in_o vain_a if_o the_o pope_n can_v define_v alone_o if_o there_o be_v no_o true_a knowledge_n of_o scripture_n but_o where_o he_o gape_v if_o for_o he_o christ_n only_o pray_v beside_o see_v what_o church_n do_v define_v this_o not_o the_o roman_a out_o of_o which_o cyprian_n be_v excommunicate_v and_o never_o reconcile_v but_o that_o for_o which_o cyprian_n shed_v his_o blood_n fudit_fw-la blood_n augustin_n l._n 2._o cont_n crescon_n c._n 32._o non_fw-la accipio_fw-la quod_fw-la de_fw-la baptizandis_fw-la haereticis_fw-la et_fw-la schismatic_n b._n cyprianus_n sensit_fw-la quia_fw-la hoc_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la accipit_fw-la pro_fw-la qua_fw-la b._n cyprianus_n sanguinem_fw-la fudit_fw-la to_o wit_n the_o true_a catholic_n which_o with_o cyprian_a be_v every_o maundy_n thursday_n by_o their_o bulla_n coenae_fw-la excommunicate_v at_o rome_n and_o therefore_o the_o jesuite_n have_v unwise_o urge_v s._n augustine_n word_n against_o the_o donatist_n put_v yourselves_o into_o that_o church_n which_o as_o it_o be_v manifest_a s._n cyprian_n defend_v and_o then_o may_v you_o allege_v s._n cyprian_n authority_n for_o your_o doctrine_n 81._o doctrine_n reply_v pag._n 81._o it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o roman_a schismatickes_n accuse_v and_o accurse_v that_o church_n in_o which_o cyprian_n die_v a_o bless_a martyr_n account_v it_o no_o further_a catholic_a than_o it_o be_v roman_a all_o that_o follow_v be_v chaff_n final_o say_v the_o jesuite_n i_o will_v our_o answerer_n do_v observe_v in_o this_o example_n how_o notwithstanding_o so_o many_o bishop_n as_o in_o africa_n join_v with_o s._n cyprian_n who_o in_o number_n be_v more_o than_o be_v in_o all_o his_o majesty_n dominion_n yet_o be_v there_o find_v a_o superior_a church_n that_o do_v control_v they_o all_o herein_o prescribe_v both_o to_o they_o &_o other_o what_o they_o ought_v to_o follow_v and_o believe_v by_o who_o authority_n s._n augustine_n as_o we_o have_v hear_v and_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o african_a bishop_n do_v reject_v that_o opinion_n of_o s._n cyprian_n &_o embrace_v the_o contrary_a 81._o contrary_a reply_v pag._n 81._o first_o we_o may_v see_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v not_o so_o peaceable_a a_o dominion_n as_o the_o jesuite_n pretend_v if_o so_o many_o bishop_n do_v resist_v his_o control_a as_o the_o jesuite_n acknowledge_v second_o you_o may_v see_v his_o falsehood_n in_o his_o cautelous_a conveyance_n labour_v to_o persuade_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o superior_a church_n 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antiquity_n reject_v sundry_a point_n which_o the_o major_a and_o sound_a part_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v teach_v in_o the_o church_n hâ—jusmodi_fw-la church_n wadding_n legate_n the_o concep_n virg._n mariae_fw-la sect._n 2._o orat_fw-la 9_o §._o 6._o mâ—â—_n 31._o â—lures_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o graviores_fw-la ij_o quos_fw-la supra_fw-la retuli_fw-la contra_fw-la quos_fw-la cum_fw-la alijâ—_n definitum_fw-la est_fw-la circa_fw-la animaâ—uâ—_n ante_fw-la diâ—m_fw-la judicij_fw-la beatitudâ—â—em_fw-la plures_fw-la &_o gra_fw-mi viores_fw-la contra_fw-la quos_fw-la docet_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la aâ—gelos_n esse_fw-la spirituales_fw-la plures_fw-la &_o graviores_fw-la contra_fw-la quos_fw-la â—el_a quibus_fw-la dubitantibus_fw-la dâ—_n varijs_fw-la libris_fw-la &_o scripture_n canonicis_fw-la â—oâ—umque_fw-la editionibus_fw-la plâ—tâ—_n sunt_fw-la statuta_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la multi_fw-la &_o grave_n sunt_fw-la quos_fw-la quidam_fw-la citant_fw-la â—t_a volunt_fw-la 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scripserunt_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la revelationi_fw-la si_fw-la qua_fw-la fuit_fw-la alijs_fw-la doctoribus_fw-la facta_fw-la that_o have_v any_o conscience_n but_o not_o as_o good_a testimony_n to_o assent_v to_o the_o truth_n and_o so_o far_o be_v they_o from_o patronise_a the_o popish_a cause_n that_o you_o dare_v not_o accept_v they_o nisi_fw-la ex_fw-la cogitato_fw-la commento_fw-la but_o with_o mental_a reservation_n of_o a_o false_a comment_n or_o a_o worse_a interpretation_n 33._o interpretation_n index_n expurg_n belgic_a pag._n 5._o quum_fw-la igitur_fw-la in_o catholicis_fw-la veteribus_fw-la alijs_fw-la plurimos_fw-la feramus_fw-la errores_fw-la &_o exâ—enuemus_fw-la excusemus_fw-la excogitato_fw-la commenso_fw-la persaepè_fw-la negemus_fw-la &_o commodum_fw-la â—â—â—_o sensum_fw-la assingamus_fw-la dum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d in_o disputationibus_fw-la aut_fw-la in_o confliction_n but_o cum_fw-la adversarijs_fw-la reply_v pag._n 33._o what_o follow_v to_o wit_n that_o by_o the_o 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this_o the_o jesuit_n have_v refer_v to_o another_o place_n till_o which_o time_n we_o will_v leave_v it_o yet_o whereas_o the_o jesuite_n still_o insi_v upon_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n word_n no_o other_o father_n but_o god_n do_v we_o know_v upon_o who_o bare_a credit_n we_o may_v ground_v our_o conscience_n in_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v &_o that_o rock_n upon_o which_o alone_o we_o build_v our_o faith_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n from_o which_o no_o sleight_n that_o they_o can_v devise_v shall_v ever_o draw_v we_o and_o think_v the_o same_o be_v utter_v for_o no_o other_o end_n but_o to_o cast_v by_o the_o father_n as_o little_o respect_v their_o authority_n 33_o authority_n reply_v pag._n 33_o we_o take_v this_o but_o for_o a_o wizard_n surmise_n and_o a_o vain_a repetition_n we_o have_v show_v before_o that_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n have_v give_v the_o father_n their_o due_a respect_n and_o if_o he_o shall_v do_v 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literae_fw-la â—_o deleatur_fw-la tota_fw-la epistola_fw-la vdalrici_fw-la episcopi_fw-la augustini_fw-la de_fw-fr â—â—libatu_n cleri_fw-la item_n totus_fw-la libre_fw-la bertrami_n presbyteri_fw-la de_fw-la corpore_fw-la &_o sanguine_fw-la domini_fw-la penitusauferatur_fw-la last_o the_o jesuite_n say_v we_o will_v now_o discover_v for_o conclusion_n of_o the_o whole_a how_o far_o herein_o the_o answerer_n differ_v from_o those_o father_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o god_n with_o who_o he_o pretend_v to_o have_v so_o great_a affinity_n and_o this_o we_o will_v declare_v by_o the_o express_a word_n of_o a_o ancient_a learned_a father_n vineâ—â—tius_n lyrinensis_n 34_o lyrinensis_n reply_v pag._n 34_o etc._n etc._n how_o willing_o the_o jesuite_n will_v have_v the_o ancient_a church_n to_o be_v as_o corrupt_v as_o themselves_o may_v appear_v by_o this_o his_o struggle_v with_o one_o only_a lyrinensis_n who_o word_n large_o translate_v speak_v not_o any_o thing_n in_o effect_n to_o 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not_o with_o authority_n not_o only_o equal_a but_o superior_a to_o the_o scripture_n now_o what_o strength_n do_v the_o jesuite_n bring_v to_o confirm_v this_o rule_n his_o first_o place_n be_v esay_n liiii_o and_o the_o 17._o thou_o shall_v judge_v every_o tongue_n that_o shall_v resist_v theâ—_n in_o thy_o judgement_n 99_o judgement_n reply_v pag._n 99_o sure_o the_o jesuite_n be_v like_a to_o their_o divine_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n who_o be_v restrain_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o forbid_a schoole-disputes_a bring_v all_o the_o place_n out_o of_o the_o prophet_n and_o psalm_n where_o they_o stand_v the_o word_n confiteor_n and_o its_o verbal_a confissiâ—_n to_o prove_v auricular_a confession_n and_o they_o be_v account_v best_o learn_v who_o bring_v most_o of_o they_o 345._o they_o hist_o council_n tridâ—â—_n l._n 4._o p._n 345._o for_o here_o be_v nothing_o whereby_o to_o make_v the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n of_o controversy_n unless_o he_o will_v conclude_v 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