the Ancient Fathers are not in such Assertions contrary to themselves 2. Were not the Apostles Holy Men when they dreamed of an Earthly Kingdom in this World Yet this Opinion is contrarie to a principal Article of our Faith Were They void of Holiness when they believed that the Gospel was to be preached to the Jews onely Which is greatly Derogatory to the Grace of God and Salvation of his people Then every Error doth not overthrow all holiness in the servants of God 3. In the Primitive Church many Holy Fathers were infected with the Error of Christs Reigning a thousand years on earth who notwithstanding are worthily accounted Saints of God 4. Cyprian and many Godly Bishops with him erred about the Baptism Ministred by Hereticks Yet lost they not for all that the Opinion and Name of Holy Bishops and Fathers 5. All such errors mentioned were such as in the before named Fathers did not raze the Foundation of the Gospel § There is great difference between the Errors of the Antient Fathers And those of the present Church of Rome And Popish Doctors 1. THe Fathers slipt a little The Popish Doctors and Papists are fallen headlong into the pit 2. The Fathers were overseen through infirmitle The Popish Doctors and Papists are blind of Malice 5. The Fathers scattered some Darnel in the Lords Field The Popish Doctors and Papists have plucked up by the Roots the good Corn. 4. The Fathers have suffered losse of this building being not agreeable to the foundation yet are saved The Popish Doctors and Papists overthrow indirectly and by good consequence the foundation it self And therefore continuing in these opinions what hope can they have to be saved § Examination of these words of Luther reproved by the Popish Writers That he was not moved though a thousand Austins Cyprians Churches be against him The Popish Writers BY these words say the Popish Writers Luther did shew that he was unmeasurable Arrogant and wilful Answer to that Accusation and Presumption 1. LVther's Spirit was far from this Insolent and Immoderate Presumption as may by his own words appear ‖ Contra Regem Angliae For he saith not that he more setteth by his own private judgment then he doth by all the Fathers and Doctors But he saith That he setteth against the sayings of the Fathers of Men of Angels of Devils the Word of the onely Eternal Majestie the Gospel And again immediately he saith The Word of God is above all The Majestie of God maketh with me That I care not though a thousand Augustines and Cyprians stood against we 2. Is this to set his private judgment against All the Fathers Is this Pride Is this Presumption Must Gods word and Majesty and Gospel yield to the judgment of Fathers be they never so many 3. Luther did not think so but meant this by the words alledged against him If Augustine or Gyprian or any other Father maintain any thing against Gods Word Luther or any other Minister of Christ may in such Case preferre his Judgement warranted by the word of God before theirs 4. If the Popish Doctors deny this they are not worthy to be called Christians 5. And yet closely They doe deny it in that they reprove Luther and condemn him for saying the same §. Objections against this Answer of the Reformed by the Popish Writers 1. Objection YOu Reformed say the said Writers can bring no Instance that ever the Ancient Fathers did so Answer of the Reformed to that Objection 1. HAve the Popish Writers forgotten what fell out in the first Council of Nice when the Fathers agreeing to dissolve the Marriage of Ministers were withstood by Paphnutius and yielded in the end Here one Paphnutius Judgement was preferred before all the other three hundreds of Fathers 2. And so oftentimes the Judgement of many hath been corrected by one S. Angustine saith whether of Christ Contra Petil. lib. 3. cap. 6. or of his Church or of any other thing that appertaineth to our Faith and Life I will not say We not to be compared to him that said Though we But as he added If an Angel from Heaven shall Preach any thing besides that ye have received in the Legal and Evangelical Scriptures let him be accursed If we may accurse them how many and whosoever they be that Teach contrary to the Prophetical and Apostolical Scriptures then may we prefer our Judgement in such Cases before them 3. In another place S. Augustine saith August Epist 19. For all these namely Fathers yea above all these the Apostle Paul offereth himself I flie to Him I appeal to Him from all Writers that think otherwise Thus was S. Augustine bold to write even to S. Jerome and feared not any suspicion either of Arrogancy or of Heresie for the same 4. Such Account then must we make of the Truth that we must stand with it against all the world and not for the Reverence of mens Persons give it over or betray it or be afraid to defend it 2. Objection THough the Fathers in the Councils of Nice of Ephesus of Chalcedon had alledged no direct and evident Place against Arius and Nestorius and Eutiches yet the Christian People was bound to believe them grounding themselves onely upon the Catholick and Universal Faith of the Churches before them Answer of the Reformed to that Objection 1. THis is boldly and bluntly spoken 2. These Godly and Catholick Fathers Assembled in Council against these Hereticks Confuted them by the Authority of Gods Word and as it were did cut the throat of their Heresies with the Sword of the Spirit This is onely the Weapon then used And with this they prevailed 3. As likewise have all other godly Councils ever done against the Hereticks and enemies of the Church The Fathers have Errors and the Doctors of the Roman Church do acknowledge it 1. IT is confessed by our Adversaries that the Fathers had their Errors 2. And themselves in divers cases challenge and censure them 3. There is none of the Fathers saith Stapleton in which something erroneous may not be observed And Anselm saith in the books of those holy Doctors which the Church readeth as Authentical some things are found wicked and heretical And Mulhusinus the Jesuite We know the Fathers were men and erred sometimes 4. Before the Pelagian Heresie arose Augustine was deceived in the matter of divine grace and freewill And although the same Father is many times Orthodox in the Question of Purgatory yet at other times he varieth at least doubtfully from his own sounder judgment The Reformed justly exclude from the rule of Faith the Determinations of the Pope 1. WE have said before That the Determinations of the Pope is the onely Rule of Faith in the Roman Church 2. Now then this being the Papists own certain Rule and Ground and Resolution We Reformed would gladly be Enformed How by the same a man may be assured of any Faith It being further also agreed
with Reason By the Authority of Scriptures 2. For indeed as the same Augustine hath taught us Epist 111. Ad Fortunatum We must not have any Mens Disputations Howsoever They be Men of sound Judgement and worthy Praise In like Estimation as the Canonical Scriptures 3. Such an understander saith the same Augustine Am. 7. In Reading other Mens Writings Such would I have other Men to be of Mine §. Consequently This Power and Authority is not to be Attributed to any Creature 1. NOt to the Ancient Fathers And Their Writings 2. Not to the Church 3. Not to the Counsels 4. Not to The Pope A Part or Joined with a General Council 3. Because They have not the Conditions of a Supreame Interpreter of the Scriptures And Judge of Controversies 3. Which Conditions are the following 1. It is required of a Supreame Interpreter and Judge of Controversies That It sayes Infalliblie the Truth And Cannot Erre 2. It is Required that It be not Partial 3. It is Required That no Appeale or Provocation may be made from it 4. It is Required That it might produce a certain knowledge and Belief in the Minds of Men. And by a Certain Spiritual Power so bind in some manner the Dissenting Parties That They willingly obey unto the Truth And give Assent unto it §. What Force have in Matters of Religion Arguments taken from Reason 1. 1. THe Argument that is Grounded only upon Reason In Matters of Religion And Faith we Reformed grant most unfeignedly to be no lawful weapon to fight the Lords warfare 2. And therefore whatsoever any of the Christians have said against Philosophy and Reason when Philosophy and Reason did disagree and doth from the Faith Which in the Scripture we Learn All That we Reformed do Allow with all our Hearts 3. And never used thus any Argument taken from Natural Reason In Matters of Religion against Any Adversary 4. For Reason must submit it self to Faith we know Faith must not be Restrained or stitched according to Reason 2. But when Reason is not Controlled of Faith Then we think That no Adversary in Points of Belief will Deny but that an Argument Builded upon Reason Maketh a necessary Proofe The Controversies Concerning Religion In Disputations Either Publick Or Private Most be Devided only by the Holy Scriptures According to the Doctrine of the Reformed ANTITHESIS 1. THe Popish Doctors do Reject this Doctrine For They will not enter in Combate with the Reformed onely with the Scriptures They Account themselves Disarmed If they must fight with Them only with this weapon 2. For this is their Language to the Reformed Doctors You Boast much of your valour But whether think you is he valorous or Fearful who dare not otherwise buckle with his Adversary But upon Condition he may forbid Him what Weapons he List And choose for Himself what he List Now say They to Them Here is your valour You forbid us the Weapons Of the Church Of the Counsels And of the Fathers And you onely leave us the Weapons of the Scriptures Answer of the Reformed Doctors To this Language of the Popish 1. HE that will overcome in the Case of Religion must only use those Weapons which are Allowed in this kind of Fight For it is not lawful here As it is in War to take any weapon by which you can wound your Enemy But weapons must be fetched out of the Armory of the Scriptures And of the Spirit of God Or Else There will be no foiling of an Adversary 2. And This is That which the Scriptures do warrant 3. And the Emperour Constantine commanded the Fathers of the Nicene Council to use against the Arrians And to end Controversies The Books of the Evangelists And of the Apostles And of the Oracles of the old Prophets Theodoret. Lib. 1. Cap. 6. 4. And the like teacheth Hilarie De Trinit Lib. 7. And Augustine Epist 3. And Contra Liter Petil. Donat. Lib. 3. Cap. 6. And in Divers others Places The Supreame Authority of Establishing Conserving and Reforming Religion doth belong to the Prince and Soveraign Magistrate 1. VVHich we say and maintain against the Doctors of the Church of Rome who leaves to the Prince only to defend that Religion which hath been established and approved by the Clergy 2. But more belongeth to the Prince and all that which is propunded in the Head 3. Which we prove 1. By the Right of Pagan Princes For among all the Pagans and Gentiles although the solemn administration did belong to their Priests yet the Supream Authority of setling reforming and defending Religion did ever belong to the Magistrate 4. And that 2. we should not think that the Pagan Princes did erre in that we are to know That the Supream Magistrate among the Israelites and among the Christians did assume to themselves the same Right God himself would have the Ceremonies concerning Religion to be setled and established by Moses the Civil Magistrate And not by Aaron the High Priest And after the Death of Moses the Care concerning Religion was devoled to Joshua the Governour and Magistrate And not to the Priest During the Government of the said Joshua The Ark was removed The Idolls were pulled down And by him was renewed the Religious Covevant between God and the People It is manifest also that David and Solomon and Josiah And Hezekiah did exercise their Royal Power in establishing and Reforming Religion And in overthrowing and rooting out Superstition and Idolatry If any one doubts of the exercise of the Power of Christian Emperours about the matter of Religion let him read the Code And the Novell Constitutions And there he shall find Laws made by them Concerning the Catholick Faith Concerning Sacraments Concerning the Churches Concerning Synods Concerning the Pastors of the Church Concerning Hereticks And in a word concerning the whole matter of Religion 5. And it is an Errour to teach that the Care of things doth not belong to the Office of the Supream Magistrate For as sayes very well S. Augustine Princes do serve God in this August contra Crescon lib. ◠cap. 51. as they are Princes If they Injoin good things in their States and Dominions And forbid that which is Evil Not only in regard of that which belongeth to Divine Religion 6. To the two former Arguments let us join a third one to prove that the Supream Authority concerning Religion doth belong to the Prince and Soveraign Magistrate This Argument is taken from the necessity or at least from the convenience of the Thing It is a thing very necessary that there be one to whom the Supream authority doth belong to Injoin that which belongeth to Religion To forbid the Things that are hurtful and contrary to Religion And to punish those that are Rebellious For the outward worship of God shall vanish away Heresies will rise and Increase as also Blasphemies unlesse there be one armed with the Sword who may by fear and by a coactive power restrain the
universal Faith of Christ we are truely Christians and Catholicks believing so and professing so 2. And are content with these Names and desire no other §. Let the Papists be called as they will the Reformed who Reprove and Confute the multitude of their Namss will not be grieved at them 1. LEt the Papists be called Diversly Franciscanes Benedictines Dominicanes And whatsoever other Title they can take up the Reformed are not grieved at the multitude and variety of their Names 2 Who being in Truth almost any thing rather then Christians delight in any Name rather then in the Name of Christians Against the Reconcilement and Reunion of the two Religions the Reformed and the Roman 1. BEing true that the Roman Church is Heretikcal and Impure And on the contrary the Reformed Churches Orthodox and Pure It follows manifestly that there can be none well grounded hope to agree and reunite Popery with the Reformed Churches And therefore that the labour of those who would think upon such a thing were not a seasonable labour 1. Because that in the differences which are amongst us we are so contrary one to the other that the one do clearly maintain the Negative and the others the Affirmative Now it must necessarily be that one of the Propositions be true and the other false Because two contradictories cannot be together true And it is not possible to soulder them by the mastick of some distinctions having no ground in the Word of God 2. The Errors of the Church of Rome have been solemnly ratified and confirmed by the Council of Trent upon pain of Anathema And therefore since that Ratification and confirmation there is no way nor mean left of reconcilement and Agreement For if there were the said Church should be bound to acknowledge her Errors to the end that they may be reformed And to disanul and abrogate concerning them the Canons of the said Council of Trent which is not to be expected from her as long as she shall maintain this poin as she doth vehemently that she cannot Erre And that she layes down and propounds no other Principle of Faith than her belief Against Toleration of false Religions with the pure and Reformed when they differ in Fundamental grounds 1. IT is not onely evil to do but also to suffer evil when it is in our power to hinder it Therefore Religion differing in Fundamental Grounds are not to be Tolerated together 2. This is proved by many Arguments Drawn 1. From the Law forbidding to plow with an Ox and an Asse And punishing Idolaters with Death Deut. 22.10 11. and Deut. 19.6.8 9. 2. From the Gospel denying the service of two Masters Mat. 6.24 And interdicting all fellowship and communion of light with darkness or Christ with Belial 2 Cor. 6.14 15 16. 3. From the Spirits Bill of enditement framed against the Angels of Pergamos and Thyatira for tollerating the Nicolaitans Rev. 2.15 20. 4. From Gods threatning to cut off all such as swear by him and by Malcham Zeph. 1.5 5. From the Imputation which is laid by the Spirit upon many Kings of Israel and Judah for not taking away the High places 1 King 15.14 6. From the Examples of Asa Josiah Ezekiah Constantine Jovian Theodosius and other Religious Princes who by severe Laws restrained Heresie and Idolatry and constrained the true worship of God 7. From the great danger of Heresie which like a Canker soon spreads over the whole body of the Church and if it be not looked into killeth and that eternally thousands of souls breaketh the bands of Nature and cutteth in sunder all sinews of human Society Putteth enmity variance and implacable discords in families Soweth seeds of Sedition in the State and Rebellion against the Prince Refutation of this Slander of the Popish Doctors That the Reformed are Enemies to Scriptures 1. THe Reformed say that this is indeed a very impudent Slander 2. For who ever thought and spoke more Honourablie Reverently and with more due Regard of the Scriptures then they Who have received and imbraced all Scripture given by Inspiration as the very voice of God himself Holding it for the onely Ground and Rule of their Faith and Religion And so resting in it as that they desire no other help as necessary to Salvation Which if they had not with more diligence and devotion defended then the Romanists ever did long ere this the glory of it had perished and it had been counted as a dead Letter 3. For what have the Reformed done for these many years with more endeavour and diligence then to maintain the Majesty and Excellencie of the Scriptures 4. Which the Romanists have so unworthily violated 5. And yet they blush not to match the Reformed with the Manichees and Ebionites who have violently laid villanous hands upon those Sacred Books Of the Apocryphal Books excluded from the Canon by the Reformed Churches Jesuits THe Jesuites and other Papists do demand of the Reformed by what Authority they Maime and Rob the Corps of the Bible Answer of the Reformed to that Demand 1. WE offer no violence to this Body neither do we cut off any which do appertain to the substance and perfection of it we pull away no Member 2. For we do not cut out any true Canonical Scriptures but cull out such as are not Canonical but foisted in and Counterfeit 3. Herein we do the Canonical Scriptures no injury dividing them from such Books as are not of that absolute Authority That they which are in truth Canonical may remain intire and whole together no more then the Shepheard doth injury to the Sheep in sorting the Goats and other Cattel from them The Doctrine of the Reformed Churches and particularly of the Church of England that the Ministers of God hath power to Forgive Sins if the Sinner repent and believe the Gospel maketh not the English Reformed Ministers to be Priests as they are called in the Church of Rome 1. WE Reformed say that the Ministers of God hath power to forgive sins not in some Cases only but in all whatsoever if the sinner repent and believe the Gospel 2. This Authority is given unto him by Christ 3. This in the State and Church of England the Parliament and the Communion Book confesse 2. 1. NEvertheless a Popish Writer is far from his purpose to prove thereby the Popish Order of Priesthood 2. For this maketh not the English Reformed Ministers to be Priests as they are called in the Church of Rome but Preachers of Repentance which bring the glad Tidings of the Gospel to all those that be heavie laden and desire to be refreshed 3. 1. NEither have they power themselves to forgive sins but God alone forgiveth sins Mark 1.7 2. But having the word of Reconciliation committed unto them from God they offer pardon and in his Name pronounce pardon to the sinner that believeth and that turneth from his wickednesse and sinnes unto the Lord. Refutation of this Accusation of the Jesuites
that regard they sate at the last in Councils As namely in the sixth Council of Carthage And in the Council of Gregory the first And the Gallicane Church in her Remonstrances to the Council of Canstance saies these words Cardinals are the Rectors or Parsons of the Parochial Churches at Rome They have their Dignities in their parishes and their First and principal Office is To hear Confessions To preach and to Baptize c. 6. But Onuphrius saith in Libro de Cardinalibus That when Pope Clement the 2. about the year 1046. had strengthened the Papal Majesty Leo the 9. about the year 1049. did begin to raise up the State of Cardinals at Rome 7. Unto whom afterwards Innocent the 4. about the year 1244. gave the priviledge of the Red Hat Of the Scarlet Gown And to go on Horseback through the Citie 8. And in the year 1470. Paul the 2. did confirm it 9. And since Clement the 5. went so far in his Clementines as to make them march before all the Princes of the earth 10. But that the beginning of Cardinals had been such as hath been represented Besides the consent of the whole History it doth appear by the following things 1. It doth appear by this That Antiently there were onely 28 of them That is to say as many as of Titles and of the parishes at Rome 2. That doth appear by this That as the Popes were willing to make a great number of Cardinals they did also increase the number of the Parishes of Rome 3. That doth appear by this That above a thousand years lasting the least Bishop had the precedence of a Cardinal how Ancient soever he might be And even the Dean likewise 4. That doth appear by this That the Cardinalat was a Degree to become Bishop And that he who of a Cardinal was made Bishop did cease to be Cardinal which was not altered but about the year 1190 by Pope Clement the third 5. That doth appear by this That among the Cardinal Bishops the Precedence was taken from the Promotion to the Bishoprick and not to the Cardinalship The Cardinals being esteemed inferiours to Bishops and onely more then simple Priests Alexander the 3. did change that after he had troden under feet the Emperor Frederick about the year 1180. making thenceforth the Cardinals Bishops and the Cardinals not Bishops to have the precedence of Bishops Archbishops Primates Patriarchs c. 6. That doth appear by this That the Church of Ravenna in Italy had her Cardinals and kept them a long time which also in the time of Charles the Great did maintain That she held nothing of Rome 11. Concerning Cardinal Deacons the books of the Church of Rome do teach us That there was but one there in the beginning which was called so because he was the Principal Deacon called by us Arch-Deacon of the seven Deacons that were in that City that is to say one for two Regions which were called Regionarie Deacons having the care of the Alms. Since they were 14 one for a Region and afterwards 18. To give 4 of them to Latran and at last they were all Cardinals and that without Number 12. It must not be wondred at Then if the Canonists do Dispute that the Cardinals have no Rank in the Church and that they are neither Instituted by Christ nor by his Apostles c. 13 Neither also must we wonder if even the Cardinal of Alliaco among the Articles which he presented to the Council of Constance Libr. de Reform at the Request of the Emperour Sigismond did give counsel to extinguish them as superfluous and added without cause This is an Observation greatly to be considered namely That the Arguments used in the Church of Rome for Defence of their Erroneous Doctrines before the coming in of the Jesuites are declared by the Jesuites themselves to have been but sleight and weak Arguments Jesuites OUr Ancestors saies one of the Jesuites otherwise most wise men having not alwaies to Debate with wilful Spirits did not strictly stand upon exact Form of Teaching Answer to that by the Reformed 1. THe cause is the more desperate when such wise men could find no better Arguments to maintain it but such as even the Jesuites themselves confesse to be but weak 2. And both their Heresies were then too credulous to believe And the Jesuites are now ridiculous to defend such loose Arguments as they do § By the above observation it doth manifestly appear That the Jesuites that now have taken upon them to defend the Doctrine Erroneous of the Church of Rome of all the Sophisters of that Church are the greatest 1. THe Jesuites puts now down all the Ancient Sophisters of the Church of Rome for deceipt and fraud themselves being yet but upstarts 2. For if there were ever any kingdom of poor blind men over the stark blind questionless it is now wholy descended unto the Jesuites 3. To whom the former Popish Doctors as also the Ancienter Orders of Monks and Friars do willingly yeild the Garland because they think that they see something Of all the Sophisters Jesuites Bellarmine a Jesuite is the greatest and most Vniversal as appears by the Representation and Observation of his Faults 1. REading the Controversies of Cardinal Bellarmine concerning Religion we find two kinds of Faults in them Some are General And the others are Particular 2. These be some of his General Faults 1. To make shew and parade of his Learning he propounds and moves Questions too curious as also unprofitable 2. He refutes the Antient Errors with too great prolixitie and labour which were not to be drawn out of Hell wherein in times past truth had made them fall 3. He unjustly reproves the Reformed Doctors and slanders them being beholding unto them for many matters that he hath taken from them though he doth not vouchsafe to acknowledg it 4. When he loses all hope to be helped by holy Scriptures he doth strengthen himself by the Authority of the Fathers and of the Councils and of Miracles 5. Against all right and reason to maintain and uphold his Capitolin god which is the Pope he alleadges unto us the Popes in their own Cause as Judges or witnesses 6. Also to prove his Assertions he alleadges and produce that which hath been done by the Pope Whereas it was to be known in regard of Right whether they ought to do such things 7. To procure glory and fame unto himself and being stirred by Ambition he blames and rebukes every kind of persons even his own Doctors and moreover the holy Scriptures 8. Having undertaken to uphold an Error he hoth sink in the mud the more when he goes on 4. Concerning the particular Faults of the said Cardinal they appear in every point of controversie which he handles against the Reformed Churches Which particular Faults are clearly discovered and solidly refuted by the Doctors of the said Churches who did undertake the Answer to the said Controversie §. An