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of_o the_o author_n of_o those_o book_n which_o be_v entitle_v in_o the_o name_n of_o charles_n the_o emperor_n they_o do_v erroneous_o think_v that_o the_o council_n do_v allow_v that_o image_n shall_v be_v worship_v with_o a_o honour_n proper_a unto_o god_n this_o answer_n also_o be_v so_o preiudicious_a to_o their_o own_o cause_n that_o their_o own_o doctor_n vasques_n suares_n and_o binius_fw-la do_v open_o confute_v it_o prove_v first_o that_o the_o council_n of_o francford_n 230._o can_v not_o be_v deceive_v by_o that_o information_n second_o that_o the_o 232._o legate_n of_o the_o pope_n do_v subscribe_v unto_o it_o three_o that_o the_o contrary_a answer_n supra_fw-la stand_v not_o upon_o any_o sound_a ground_n and_o if_o i_o shall_v object_v the_o answer_n of_o bellarmine_n i_o think_v p._n r._n will_v return_v i_o no_o satisfaction_n he_o to_o allow_v the_o council_n of_o francford_n thus_o far_o as_o to_o think_v iâ—_n do_v not_o err_v in_o a_o
to_o give_v he_o thrice_o three_o example_n of_o their_o fraud_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o think_v it_o requisite_a to_o single_a out_o of_o all_o such_o a_o one_o as_o be_v commend_v of_o all_o to_o wit_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n that_o p._n r._n may_v not_o repine_v say_v he_o have_v choose_v a_o david_n the_o least_o in_o his_o father_n house_n but_o confess_v that_o i_o have_v prefer_v a_o saul_n one_o high_a by_o the_o head_n and_o shoulder_n than_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n not_o a_o dead_a man_n who_o can_v interpret_v his_o own_o meaning_n whether_o he_o have_v falsify_v upon_o ignorance_n negligence_n etc._n etc._n but_o one_o which_o now_o live_v be_v able_a to_o answer_v for_o himself_o who_o credit_n p._n r._n do_v tender_a and_o with_o who_o he_o may_v consult_v to_o know_v whether_o i_o do_v he_o injury_n or_o no._n now_o to_o the_o point_n first_o example_n of_o such_o kind_n of_o falsity_n in_o wilful_a slander_n whereof_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n have_v be_v guilty_a as_o will_v appear_v even_o by_o the_o evidence_n of_o his_o own_o confession_n 67_o let_v p._n r._n for_o a_o while_o take_v cardinal_n bellarmine_n into_o secret_a confession_n and_o first_o ask_v he_o with_o what_o conscience_n he_o have_v charge_v calvin_n with_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o pelagiani_n pelagian_n who_o deny_v that_o there_o be_v any_o original_a sin_n in_o infant_n especial_o in_o the_o child_n of_o faithful_a christian_n for_o as_o he_o can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a initio_fw-la that_o this_o doctrine_n of_o deny_v original_a sin_n be_v as_o their_o own_o l._n jesuite_n confess_v the_o proper_a heresy_n of_o the_o pelagian_n and_o not_o so_o only_o but_o say_v furthermore_o that_o quaestionem_fw-la calvin_n and_o all_o other_o protestant_n be_v so_o far_o from_o deny_v original_a sin_n that_o they_o do_v monstrous_o extend_v the_o nature_n thereof_o even_o unto_o person_n regenerate_v i_o let_v pass_v a_o dozen_o such_o crimination_n cast_v by_o he_o upon_o protestant_n which_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o his_o own_o doctor_n may_v be_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v lewd_a and_o intolerable_a slander_n i_o insist_v now_o only_o upon_o such_o his_o confession_n whereby_o it_o may_v appear_v he_o have_v be_v in_o his_o injury_n against_o his_o adversary_n the_o great_a adversary_n to_o his_o own_o conscience_n 68_o first_n he_o make_v protestant_n guilty_a of_o the_o heresy_n of_o novatianorum_n the_o novatian_n in_o take_v from_o the_o church_n all_o power_n of_o reconcile_a man_n unto_o god_n when_o as_o his_o own_o author_n note_n that_o joh._n the_o heresy_n of_o the_o novatian_n be_v this_o viz._n to_o deny_v any_o man_n who_o shall_v sin_v after_o baptism_n all_o hope_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n although_o he_o shall_v repent_v yea_o and_o also_o bellarmine_n himself_o in_o behalf_n of_o protestant_n confess_v elsewhere_o that_o aliâs_fw-la they_o require_v repentance_n and_o faith_n in_o christian_n that_o they_o may_v be_v justify_v and_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n nor_o this_o only_a but_o igitur_fw-la there_o be_v no_o difference_n between_o we_o say_v he_o and_o protestant_n about_o repentance_n as_o it_o be_v a_o conversion_n unto_o god_n with_o detestation_n of_o sin_n or_o as_o it_o consist_v in_o outward_a sign_n of_o sorrow_n weep_v confession_n and_o outward_a chastisement_n yea_o and_o almost_o all_o of_o they_o allow_v a_o outward_a rite_n of_o absolution_n but_o the_o only_a controversy_n between_o we_o be_v whether_o penance_n be_v proper_o a_o sacrament_n the_o contradiction_n be_v this_o to_o impute_v unto_o protestant_n an_o heresy_n which_o take_v away_o all_o manner_n of_o repentance_n and_o hope_n of_o remission_n for_o sin_n past_a and_o yet_o to_o acknowledge_v in_o they_o a_o contrary_a orthodoxal_a truth_n which_o be_v to_o profess_v a_o necessity_n of_o repentance_n and_o reconciliation_n and_o remission_n of_o sin_n 69_o again_o he_o attribute_v unto_o calvin_n the_o heresy_n of_o the_o manicheis_n manichaeorum_fw-la who_o say_v he_o do_v condemn_v the_o nature_n of_o man_n deprive_v they_o of_o freewill_n and_o ascribe_v the_o original_n and_o beginning_n of_o sin_n unto_o the_o nature_n of_o man_n and_o not_o unto_o his_o freewill_n see_v he_o have_v himself_o observe_v that_o principio_fw-la caluine_n teach_v that_o man_n in_o his_o first_o creation_n have_v freewill_n whereby_o in_o his_o integrity_n he_o may_v if_o he_o will_v have_v attain_v unto_o eternal_a life_n this_o contradiction_n in_o this_o point_n be_v no_o more_o than_o this_o to_o charge_n calvin_n with_o that_o which_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v be_v not_o this_o singular_a falsehood_n and_o yet_o behold_v a_o more_o notable_a than_o this_o 70_o he_o accuse_v m._n bullinger_n of_o henricum_fw-la arianisme_n because_o of_o this_o sentence_n tres_fw-la sunt_fw-la non_fw-la statu_fw-la sed_fw-la gradu_fw-la etc._n etc._n notwithstanding_o he_o know_v this_o be_v the_o very_a sentence_n of_o 9_o tertullian_n and_o be_v therefore_o elsewhere_o expound_v as_o orthodoxal_a and_o justifiable_a by_o secundum_fw-la himself_o 71_o though_o p_o r._n require_v but_o three_o example_n of_o falsehood_n yet_o may_v i_o not_o envy_v he_o a_o further_a choice_n because_o i_o know_v not_o the_o curiosity_n of_o his_o palate_n therefore_o let_v he_o again_o consult_v with_o cardinal_n bellar._n in_o another_o taxation_n of_o protestant_n say_v in_o one_o place_n that_o initium_fw-la they_o teach_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o faithful_a man_n depart_v this_o life_n do_v not_o go_v direct_o unto_o heaven_n in_o another_o place_n he_o himself_o together_o with_o his_o fellow_n jesuite_n have_v public_o record_v that_o it_o be_v a_o common_a 13._o objection_n of_o protestant_n prove_v from_o scripture_n against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a present_o after_o death_n go_v direct_o unto_o heaven_n 72_o he_o rest_v not_o here_o but_o once_o again_o challenge_v finem_fw-la caluine_n for_o as_o he_o call_v it_o a_o ancient_a heresy_n allege_v by_o theodoret_n affirm_v that_o there_o be_v only_o a_o figure_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o yet_o in_o another_o place_n affirm_v both_o initio_fw-la that_o that_o opinion_n be_v not_o ancient_a nor_o yet_o now_o to_o be_v find_v in_o theodoret_n and_o also_o that_o docet_fw-la the_o foresay_a doctrine_n of_o caluine_n do_v teach_v that_o in_o the_o eucharist_n there_o be_v to_o be_v exhibit_v unto_o the_o faithful_a not_o only_o a_o sign_n of_o christ_n body_n but_o also_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n itself_o by_o which_o man_n soul_n be_v nourish_v unto_o eternal_a life_n or_o as_o another_o jesuit_n testify_v for_o caluine_n communicari_fw-la that_o our_o soul_n communicate_v with_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n substantial_o here_o be_v no_o more_o odds_n in_o this_o accusation_n than_o ancient_a and_o not_o ancient_a heresy_n and_o not_o heresy_n all_o these_o contradiction_n do_v certain_o evince_v that_o he_o have_v by_o public_a imputation_n slander_v those_o who_o in_o his_o conscience_n he_o do_v acquit_v and_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o his_o conscience_n can_v be_v sincere_a in_o allege_v other_o man_n testimony_n and_o witness_n item_n who_o be_v find_v thus_o perfidious_o unjust_a in_o exhibit_v his_o own_o i_o spare_v to_o produce_v multitude_n of_o this_o kind_n which_o i_o have_v in_o store_n and_o will_v be_v a_o debtor_n to_o p._n r._n for_o many_o of_o this_o sort_n ready_a to_o pay_v my_o debt_n as_o soon_o as_o this_o my_o promise_n shall_v be_v exact_v some_o example_n of_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n his_o falsification_n in_o the_o allegation_n of_o testimony_n §_o 16._o saint_n cyprian_n say_v bellarmine_n whence_o be_v this_o tradition_n be_v it_o derive_v from_o the_o lord_n authority_n or_o from_o the_o precept_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o god_n will_v that_o we_o shall_v do_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v from_o whence_o protestant_n conclude_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v of_o sufficiency_n for_o our_o direction_n in_o all_o question_n of_o faith_n bellarmine_n answer_v that_o etc._n cyprian_n speak_v this_o when_o he_o think_v to_o defend_v a_o error_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v no_o marvel_n if_o he_o err_v in_o so_o reason_v for_o the_o which_o cause_n s._n augustine_n say_v he_o do_v worthy_o refute_v he_o the_o question_n be_v not_o what_o error_n cyprian_n hold_v but_o whether_o his_o manner_n of_o reason_v from_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n be_v erroneous_a or_o no._n bellar._n pretend_v that_o s._n augustine_n do_v worthy_o reprove_v he_o but_o whosoever_o shall_v consult_v with_o s._n augustine_n in_o the_o chap._n specify_v shall_v find_v that_o this_o point_n by_o he_o be_v excellent_o commend_v 26._o that_o cyprian_n warn_v we_o say_v s._n august_n to_o run_v unto_o the_o fountain_n that_o be_v unto_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n from_o thence_o to_o derive_v a_o conduit_n to_o our_o time_n