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A45737 The foundation and rise of many of the practices, customs, and formallities of the priests, lawyers, and people of England examined, and found to be from the pope and his authority in some queries to the priests, lawyers, and professors, for any of them to answer : in order to the purging of themselves (if they can) from being truly adjudged the practisers and upholders of the Popes superstitions innovations, institutions, and imposings, since the time (and against the practises) of the Apostles, and pure primitive church / by a member of the true Church that is in God, in whose name and behalf this is printed, by me, Thomas Hart. Hart, Thomas, 1629-1704. 1659 (1659) Wing H963; ESTC R10271 22,097 31

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Church Bibles crosses in them standing at the verses ends so full of lying signs and while those are standing how have you blotted out Popery and the Popes image and mark and sign and how is it that so many Crosses yet stand upon the Steeple-house ends in many parts of the Nation and in high Wayes and Market-places and pictures in the Windows and Images if Popery be cast out and renounced amongst you behold all people as ye passe up and down and take notice of all the Steeple-houses in England and high Wayes and see if there be not upon many of them a Cross now how is it you say that you have renounced Popery and the Popes mark the Popes image and the Popes sign stands up upon the house top yet and calling up the people in the Names of the Saints days to Terms and Courts and calling the names of your Churches by the Saints Names yet how is the Popes power killed here and his image thrown down when the Cross stands upon the end of the Steeple-house and the pictures in the Windows and the Steeple-house called by the name of Saints and the holy Bell the Saints Bell rings Ting ting as you may hear up and down in London and many places was not all this done by the Popes teaching and the Popes wisdom and the popes power which he calls supream and your Priests yet standing up in them and not crying against them how have you here renounced Popery Querie 6. Was not all your sprinkling Infants from the Pope Did it not first rise from him Was not all your tythes temples steeple-houses chappels first set up by the Pope and by him called Churches there is a Cross on the end of them which is a sign who set them up not yet thrown down is not this a sign of abundance of Idolatry and Popery and Popish affection that is amongst people of the Nation yet while Tythes and Temple and Pulpit and Priests and Crosses St. Peters St. Maries St. Pauls houses stands up and calling people to appear such a day by such a Saints Name is not all this set up by Pope and Papists And has not Popery a great authority while these things are standing and his Name great amongst people and his image not spoiled And have not you his mark in your hand while you have your Names to your dayes as he gave and your Names to your Churches as he gave and the Cross on the end of your Churches which he set up and do not you call them by the same Name that he gave both your Dayes and your Churches and so how do not you here stand in the Popes power how do you renounce it when you have his image his mark his names yet amongst you Are not these the Popes images marks and names Saints dayes holy dayes which ye gave forth your Summons to appear at Easter such a Saints day and call your Houses by the Names that the Pope gave and Crosses are not these his Marks and Images which are not yet down and spoyl'd Querie 7. From whence came all your Parishes and who was the setter of them up and the builders of your Steeple-houses and setting them East and West and setting the Porches and Chancels and the Body of the House what was the pattern the Temple and Jewes Synagogues and who was the imitator of all this if not the Pope and done by his power and Hallowed and Consecrated by it and so do not they call it Holy Ground ever since and so is not that the place where neither Priest nor Curate might or may be spoke to though one be moved of the Lord without imprisonment and has it not been the Pope and his power that has quenched the Spirit Querie 8. And how came up all your Churching of Women and who has had the Marrying of people and from whence had the Priests that power if not from the Pope at the first for does not their Priests Marry and is not all your Tythes Pulpits Temples Priests set up by the Popes power and authority which have the pictures the crosses at the end of them and has not all these been set up since the daye of the Apostles in the Apostacy and all to be judged and condemned with the Popes power with the Popes authority Querie 9. And is not all your making Ministers by the will of man by Schools and Colledges as ye pretend for Christ as the Papists makes them by Schools and Colledges and did not the Pope set up your Colledges and gave them their names of Christs Colledge St Johns Colledge Trinity Colledge Imanuel Colledge Jesus Colledge All Souls Colledge Magdalen dalen Colledge c. And have not you been beholden to the Pope for his wisdom and has not he been your Teacher in all these things and when did you renounce his Doctrine and his Teaching in all these things and throw it out of the Nation and does not his Doctrine stand here amongst you for a memorial and was not all this Teaching from him that gave your Names to your Colledges to your Steeple-houses to your Dayes and is not the stink of Popery amongst you while all these Names and Images are so frequent amongst you spoke up and down your streets and how can the Papists and Jesuits but laugh at you when ye deny them in words yet embrace their Doctrine Practice and Superstitions was not this the Popes Doctrine to give these Names to your Houses and Colledges as St. Peters Trinities Johns Pauls and as yet calling your Dayes by the Saints Names if you say nay then declare by Scripture where the Apostles gave any such Names to Dayes set up Colledges gave any such Names to them as Trinity Peters Johns or set up any such Houses with Bells in them and a Pulpit and a Glass does not the Papists say their Mass by the Hour-glass Do not you read your Sermons written in your Papers by the Glasse or speak what you can remember of the Scriptures or the old Fathers Exposition of them by the Glasse and does not this favour of Popery and now how can you take to Oath of Abjuration amongst you to swear against all Popery and swear to deny all Popery and Crosses stands upon your Steeple-houses ends the Popish-house ends and you call your Steeple-houses by popish names given to them and you call your Colledges by Popish names and you call your Dayes by Popish names your Months and Week-dayes by Popish and Heathen names which shews the Popes Doctrine is not denyed and here is the Popes Leven amongst e●… which I say to all people beware of it which has got up since the dayes of the Apostles Query 10. And have you not had all your degrees orders as Bachelers of Arts Masters of Arts Batchelers of Divinity Doctors of Divinity Doctors of Physick Doctors of Laws was not the Pope the first letter up of this and the allower and giver of the Maintenance to
death many persecuted to death many in this Nation spilt the bloud of many in this Nation of the Saints prisoned to death in York prisoned to death in Durbam prisoned to death in Norwich prisoned to death in Lancaster prisoned to death in Colchester prisoned in Appleby till a little before death and in Bristol there prisoned till carried out in a Basket beaten and bruised and bloodshed and will not the bloud of the innocent cover you ‑ and many in the Nation lyes in prison how can you say you are the Apostles successors think you the Lord will not avenge himself of you for the bloud of his Saints for the bloud of his prophets and many beaten and bruised by you in your Steeple-houses and not long lived after and have not more of the Saints been prisoned by you and for you in this Nation within these four or five years last past then was in all Queen Maries dayes and ever since by Papists and Bishops Querie 14. Where did the Apostles the true Church set some dayes apart to eat Fish and not other Flesh as many of your people does on the dayes you call Wednesdayes and Fridayes and to observe Cbristmass Easter Whitsontide calling them Feastival times and making abundance of provision destroying the Creatures using Gaming Dancing disguising themselves and play dayes when and where by Cards Dice Shovel board Drinking much filthinesse is committed and abominable practises where did the Apostles or Saints any such things pract se or observe Shrove-tuesday Good-friday Albollow day is not the Pope the Father of all such as observe these they follow his Doctrine and do not you all hold up his Doctrine power and authority that holds up St. Michaels day St. Andrews day St. Matthews d●y St. Marks day St. Maries day Chaistmass day Whitsontide Easter your Feast dayes and Fast the Evens of them and Holy Thursday and has not the Pope been your Teacher where did Peter or Paul or any of the Apostles set up Stevens day before their decease or Jobn Baptists day or any of the Saints dayes that were slain before their decease or command that any should observe their dayes after them shew it by the Scripiure or else acknowledge you have kept the people in ignorance and have held up the Popes Doctrine and yet would seem to deny him and yet his foundation is standing and you have laid no other now how can you take the Oath of Abjuration and the foundation of Popery yet standing amongst you and you have built upon it from generation to generation and have not openly declared against it but kept people in ignorance and thus has people been kept and nursed up in Superstition and Idolatry by such as you that have served your bellies and speak against the Pope in words while his foundation is lying amongst you this is the worst of mens conditions to speak a gainst men behind their backs but make use of their wisdom doctrine and understanding for their ends for their ease Come search the Scriptures and see if ever there were such things amongst the Apostles and see how far you are from the Apostles and how near of kin to the Pope do you think that all your works shall not be brought to judgement Queris 15. And how differ you from the Papists and the Pope who say the Spirit is in the Sacrament as you call it and the Pope saith it s his body after consecration and what is it that you have your priests and Teachers in England which is not from the Pope and what foundation have you to stand upon but what he has laid in all your practice as your making Ministers by Colledges as he did and doth and your Orders and degrees from him and sprinkling Infants from him and your singing Davids Conditions in Meetre from him your Tythes and Maintenance from him and your Churches from him and your Bells from him and have not you many old popish and heathenish books which your children read and are taught in and do not you set a cross before their A. B. C. calling it Christs cross and so begin to train them up in popery as soon as they can speak train them up with old Popish books and way of Learning and then send them to the papists Colledge till they be fit to go to the popish-house to get theirliving are not your daies named by the Pope and your observing of times from the Pope and the names of your Colledges from the Pope and the names of your Steeple-houses from him and the names of your week-daies and months left to you by the Pope your praying before and after Sermon left to you by Pope and your preaching by hour-glasses and your taking Texts and your Clerks to say Amen and your Ringing so many times and the setting of your Steeple-houses east and west and your churching of Women from him and your Marrying and your serving so long at Colledges before you be made Ministers from the Pope your wearing long Robes and black cloaths and your being called of men Master seeing Christ said Be not ye called of men Master and your Pulpit set in the highest place of the Assemblies from the Pope and was not he him that laid this foundation for you upon which you stand and how can you take the Oath of Abjuration when your heads are covered with Popery the Cioss stands over your houses over your heads was not your Steeple-houses from the Pope and your sweating from the Pope seeing Christ saith Swear not at all is not all your burying your people in that which hath been called hallowed ground from the Pope and your praying with two caps on your heads and preaching and yet saying if a man have a hat on he is covered Is not your Tythes Easter-reckonings Midsummer-dues Oblations Obventions Mortuaries all from the pope and did not he lay this foundation and have not you built on it and are not you building on it yet and was this the foundation of the Apostles or the Saints before their decease or the apostates from them who built all your Parsonage-houses and gave you all your Gleab-lands and the Tenths of all mens labours and who set up First-fruits and Tenths but the Pope since the dayes of the apostacy from the Apostles did not he claim them as his wages and if you have denied the Pope and his work why do you still pay his wages and take it how many hundred thousand pounds a year is gotten in this Nation by you that make a trade of the Scriptures whose foundation in so doing was never from the Apostles nor those that gave forth the Scriptures but from the pope and those that are apostated from the Apostles Now are not the hidden things of popery brought to light and ripped up as the hidden things of Esau was in the time of old now are not the Hypocrites seen that cry against the Pope in words and stands upon their foundation which is
Watermens Badges you may find the Popes image the crosse and doth not the Porters carry the crosse hanging about their Girdles and do not your Carmen carry the crosse in a little piece of Wood up and down the City in a Cart the Popes red Crosse rides up and down in the Cart and is not all your Swords Knives Cannons and instruments of War stampt with the Popes crosse all that are made in this City And you set the Popes crosse upon the Broad Seal of England and was not the Pope supream Author of all these crosses And how long is it since you left sprinkling your Children with the sign of the Crosse and was not the Popes crosse the first thing your Children use to learn in their Horn books and look upon the chief place of your City the Exchange there you may find upon the pictures of your Kings and of your Queens the Popers crosse and is not this a sign you have lost the crosse of Christ the power of God that you set the Popes crosse upon all these things that be in esteem or belong to your Dominions And is not this a sign that you have lost the crosse of Christ which is the power of God and all these crosses without as Wood Stone Iron Gold Silver Brasse Tinn Lead Glasse carving and painting the Popes image the crosses hath all been set up since the dayes of the Aposles in the apostacy which the Pope hath been the first Author of them in the night of darknesse and your Hirelings and Teachers are established by the Broad Seal in which is the crosse and that gives them an entrance into their Ministry and Function with the Popes crosses is their Commission sealed with their Fathers crosse who is the Author of it by which right they creep into their Fathers Masle-houses with the crosse on the end of them who have lost the Seal of the Spirit and yet they call the Quakers popish which all these things came up since the dayes of the Apostkes and since men have Witnessed their Salvation wrought out with fear and trembling and have lost the Crosse the power of the Spirit of God in which Crosse of Christ the power of God the Apostles were in before the Pope and his crosse came up is the Quakers come into and denies all his supremacy and crosses in what nature soever they are found in are they denied and witneses only the power of God to be the crosse of Christ and denies all other stamps with crosses and it is a shame to all Religions Protestants and Magistrates to have the dirty Popes crosse upon all these things afore-mentioned and upon the Conduits and Standards stands the Popes crosse and upon London Bridge are many of the Popes crosses set up and the bounds of your Lands and parishes are the Popes to be found where the Priest once a year used to go a Processioning cleansing those crosses and then strewing them with Flowers now if we own the Popes Authority which is called supream we should own his crosses but we that are come to the Apostles deny the Popes crosse and witnesse the power of God the crosse of Cheist so root out all the Poper crosses out of the Land and Nations and let not the Popes crosse stand amongst you and come to the power of God the crosse of Christ that you may have another wisdom beyond the Popes to order things withal and throw out his works for the crosse was the Popes work for that was set up by his wisdom and few of them yet plucked down and ye have an understanding to give signfications to things that we may know them by without the crosse for the Pope is glad as long as you keep his crosses upon your Seals upon your Maces upon your Gates of your City upon your Steeple-houses end upon most part of your Signes Ships Badges Conduits Bibles Flags Colours the Pope is glad as long as you have his image the crosse set upon all these things which have had a great authority therefore sweep it out of the Land with the power of God which is the crosse of Christ that is the word of the Lord unto you From the Seed of GOD called Quakers Postscript HEre all may see how they have been out of the power of God which the Apostles were in which power is the Cross of Christ 1 Cor. 1.18 and how since people have been Apostated from it And how the Pope hath spread his Authority abroad and set up his Crosse which the Apostates from the power of God was the first Author of them who apostated from the power of the Cross of Christ apostated from God and set up wooden Crosses and stone Crosses just like the Heathen when they went from the life of God they set up Images but now with the power of God the Cross of Christ are all these Apostates seen and the setters up of those wooden crosses and stone crosses the founder of them is found out and with the power of the Lord must be confounded which went forth from the power of God in the dark and by the usurped authority upon most of the things set up and stamped their outward carnal crosses and carnal images and so out of the image of God the power of God the cross of Christ with it you must be all confounded both crosses image and founder of them but the life and power of God is risen which the Apostles were in before the apostates which the people called Quakers are come into that And here is likewise some Queries for all Professors and Teachers that they may give an account of them for people in general would be satisfied therefore it doth concern Teachers and Priests to answer and give a publick account of them to the people that all may see from what stock and root they come For these things the people have long stumbled at and look that the Priest should give satisfaction concerning these things which if no answer the people may conclude them apostates from the Apostles which sees the day most of these things have got up From a Lover of truth and Righteousness and Peace that it may be establishes upon the house-top FINIS
THE FOUNDATION AND Rise of many of the Practises Customs and Formallities of the Priests Lawyers and People of England Examined and found to be from the Pope and his Authority IN SOME QUERIES TO THE Priests Lawyers and Professors for any of them to ANSVVER In Order to the Purging of themselves if they can from being truly adjudged the Practisers and Upholders of the Popes Superstitions Innovations Institutions and Imposings since the time and against the Practises of the Apostles and pure Primitive Church By a Member of the true Church that is in God in whose Name and behalf this is Printed By me Thomas Hart. London Printed in the Year 1659. TO ALL THE Priests and Professors and Lawyers IN ENGLAND Answer us these Queries in Writing or Print Querie 1. WHether or no you are not Levened with the old way of Popery And whether or no you have not the old Leven of Popery amongst you secretly in your hearts and under your skirts and garments Come to plainness without any evasions Querie 2. Do not you call all your Courts in the Names of the Dayes given from the Pope and your Terms as Hillary Term Easter Term Trinity Term Michaelmas Term And do not you require all men to appear in your Courts by the Names of your Saint Dayes as eight dayes after St. Hillary fifteen dayes after St. Hillary eight dayes after the Purification and at so many dayes after Easter the morrow of the Ascention day the morrow of Trinity and so many dayes after Trinity and so many dayes after St. Michael the morrow of All Souls the morrow of St. Martin and the like And are not all these Reliques of Popery lodging in your bosome and shewing you have not the with nor wisdom ye Lawyers and Judges and Priests and Teachers beyond the papists and Pope to call your people to your Courts but in the Names of the dayes that the Pope has given now how are ye in the supream above the Pope how do you deny the Pope here and renounce Popery here or how do you renounce his supream power when these things are amongst you in your Authority in your Courts Now if you say ye cannot or know not how to call your people to your Courts in any other Name than the Pope has given to the dayes then he is your School Master then he is your Teacher and you have not found another Teacher yet then the Pope is head yet to teach you of Priests Lawyers and Judges to teach you to give Names to your dayes by which ye know the dayes and the people come to know that they must Answer on them at your Courts now if you say this is not Popery the naming of these dayes by the Saints names and appearing such a Saint day and calling your Terms and Courts by such dayes and then people to answer at the Term after such a Saint day of whom learned you it but of the Pope And was not he the Author of it did Christ or his Apostles teach you such a Doctrine or are you taught out of the Scriptures such a Doctrine Now if you have not the wisdom to give Names to your days Lawyers Teachers and Judges and Magistrates without the Popes help but be fain to call your dayes by the same names as the Pope gave how do not you feel his Superstitions amongst you does not his power stand up how is his Image slain are not those his Marks amongst you of his Leven were these Names of Saints amongst the Apostles before their decease or come up since their decease Come if you will have Popery renounced amongst you root and branch and reliques and the leven and his marks and his image and his power and his authority root out all that he set up root it out Querie 3. Who gave Names to all your Steeple-houses and called them Churches Were they not Papists Houses and their Names given to them by the Pope and his authority and power as St. Maries St. Peters St. Pauls and were these Steeple-houses ever St. Pauls St. Peters St. Maries St. Margarats c. Now has not the Popes power a high degree amongst you yet and has the Priests Lawyers Judges ever yet manifested a wisdom an understanding or knowledge beyond the Popes to teach the people not to call their houses by the Popes Names that he has given to them and not to call the dayes by the Popes Names that he has given to them as Saints dayes St. Luke St. John St. Matthew St. Mark St. Peter and Christmass and Easter and Whitsontide where did ever any of the Apostles or Saints before their discease name their dayes after this manner or teach the people to do so or Christ either but what has been since the dayes of the Apostles in the Apostacy and how are you come out of the Apostacy or to deny the Popes teachings though you may do it in words outwardly yet it s his wisdom and knowledge that has given Names to your dayes and to your Churches as you call them which are made use of by you and not anothers as is plainly declared by your fruits on the house top Now how can you say you are not Popishly affected when all these Dreggs are amongst you lyes in the Barrel unpurged out Querié 4. Are not all your Acts and Lawes given forth and made in the Name of such a day as Munday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday and Friday and Satterday And such a Month as January and February and March and April and May and June and July and August has not all these things been learned of the Heathen and Papists the Papists who apostated from the truth and the Heathen who worshiped the Sun and Moon and Stars and shew that they have been your teachers their wisdom has taught you to name your Dayes and your Months and that you have not a wisdom beyond their wisdom to teach the people the contrary and does not this shew that you are apostated from the true Christians and the true Jewes who called the Dayes the First day and Second day and Third day and so to the Seventh day and First month Second month Third month and so to the Twelfth month And are not you that call your Months by the Names that the Heathen gave and call your Dayes by the Names of Saints that the papists gave them and by the names that the Heathen gave them as Suns day and Moons day that worshiped the Sun and called it the Suns day that worshiped the Moon and called it the Moons day that worshiped Saturn and called it Saturns day and the rest as your Almanacks declare form'd amongst the Papists and Heathen is not here Heathenism Popery and Idolatry both going together and Heathenism and Popery and you found amongst them and they amongst you out of the true Jewes life an language and of the true Christians Querie 5. And has not many of your biggest sort of Bibles called