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A20950 A learned treatise of traditions, lately set forth in French by Peter Du Moulin, and faithfully done into English by G.C.; Des traditions et de la perfection et suffisance de l'Escriture Saincte. English Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.; G. C. 1631 (1631) STC 7329; ESTC S111075 138,687 440

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were not Basils owne For saith hee the Authour of these questions see●es unwilling Bellar de Amis grat lib. 1. cap. 13 §. Respondeo to admit of unwritten Traditions But Cardinall Baronius affirmeth that To call this into suspicion or Baron annal t●m 3. anno 361. § 52. H●c in dubi●● rev●casse summa stultiti● sit doubt is a notorious sottishnesse And maintaineth these bookes to bee Basils as it is manifested by the stile Saint Hierome in his Catalogue and Ph●tius in his Bibliotheca put the Aschetickes amongst the Workes of Basil Yea more Gennadius composed Homilies out of pieces of Basils Workes compacted together amongst the which many were taken out of Ascheticks Wherefoer the conjecture of Erasmus is not improbable who made a preface upon Basils booke de Sanct. Spiritu Wherein hee professeth that having translated this booke to the halfe way he perceiued the phrase to alter and to be no more of the same authors for hee could discerne a palpable other vain Moreover though Bellarmine had something wherewith to defame and disgrace this piece of Ascheticks yet could hee cast no aspersion upon his Treatise of the true Faith where Basil affirmeth that it is a manifest revolt from the Faith and a brand of pride and presumption to reject any thing that is written or to introduce any thing which is not written Iesus Christ having sayd My sheepe heare my voyce Nor any upon that place 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 where Basil speaketh to Eustachius the Physician in his 80. Epist If faith hee custome bee of force for proofe of doctrine it shall bee lawfull for us in this to immitate them Let us then sticke to the arbitration and award of the Scripture inspired by God and hold the free suffrage voice of the truth to be on their sides whose doctrines shall bee found concurring with the divine words Neuerthelesse let vs consider what benefit our adversaries can derive from this passage about the which they make so much bruit and clamour In the first place Basil maketh a recitall of Traditions which he affirmeth to bee of equall authority with the Scripture yet amongst them there are many not approoved by the Church of Rome as prayer towards the East and making conscience to kneele on the Lords day and from the Paschal to Pentecost Most especially it displeaseth our adversaries that Basil in the Eucharist putteth the consecration in the prayer or in the invocation that is to say in speaking to God not in the bread If they beleeve Basil why doe they reject his Tradititions or if they beleeve him not why will they oblige us to beleeve him In the second place all these unwritten Traditions except the last numbred by the Authour of that booke are but ceremonies and lawes of Ecclesiasticall policy not necessary to salvation but subject to mutability and such as consequently make nothing to the purpose For our dispute is not of Traditions that concerne not the Faith and Christian doctrine but of those that concerne the doctrine of salvation not contained in holy Scripture Yet I cannot dissemble that the author of this booke be he Basil or whatere he bee isgreatly mistaken in his not onely equaling but also preferring both in height of dignitie and profoundnesse of mystery certaine petty ceremonies before the Sacred doctrine of our redemption contained in the Gospel Can any man without unsufferable injury not to use a more rigide exclamation equall ye preferre the Customes of standing at prayer on certaine dayes rather then kneeling Of praying towards the East rather then towards the West And of giving a benediction to the water or oyle before the doctrine of the incarnation of the Sonne of God the benefit of this death the justification by Faith the election eternall and the internall seale of the Spirit of God Can any man without impiety change any part or particle of these doctrines But as for those ceremonies they have suffered alteration and the Romish Church it selfe hath disparaged and debased them You see how preposterous and grosse our adversaries are who instead of covering the faults of those graue Fathers doe arme themselues with their drosse and refuse as birds that liue on nothing else but caterpillers And touching the last unwritten Tradition which is that men ought to beleeve in God the Father and in Iesus Christ his Son in the holy Ghost Is it possible that Basil where doe shine so many vertues and perfections never saw this in the Scripture For Iesus Christ saith at the 14. of Saint Iohn You beleeve in God beleeue also in me And in the 5. chap. 23. To the end that all men should honour the Sonne even as they honour the Father And as touching the holy Ghost how oft times is hee called God therefore when the Scripture biddeth to beleeue in God it cōmandeth to beleeve in the holy Spirit Now to excuse Basil we must say that hee calleth Traditions the doctrines that are not found in the Scripture in expresse words but are there in ubstance and in equivalent words And wee doe willingly entertaine such kind of Traditions Only hee is mistaken to have entermingled this high and divine Tradition amongst Customes and Ceremonies indifferent in their nature as things equally necessary and which ought to be regarded with like duty and reverence These words of Saint Hierome in an Epistle to Marcella are alleged Nos vnam quadragesimā ex Apostolica traditione tempore nobis ●ongrue ieiunamus unto us Wee fast one terme of 40. dayes at the time that wee thinke meete according to the Apostolicall Tradition This is but a ceremony and not a doctrine of the Christian Faith and we have elsewhere shewed that in the ages Au li●●e de la Nouveaté du Papisme liure 7 en la 5. Conrrovers● chap. 6. 7. neerest approching to the Apostles the Christian Church fasted but forty houres And that this fast was arbirtary and diversly practised The same Hierome against the Luciferians makes the Hereticke speake thus Knowest thou not that it is the custome of the Churches to impose hands vpon those who are baptized and so to invoke the holy Ghost Doest thou aske me where this is written I answere in the Actes of the Apostles And if there could not bee found authority of Scripture for it the custome generally observed in this point should serue instead of a commandement for many other things in like manner which are kept in use by Tradition in the Churches haue usurped the authority of the written Law as in baptisme to plunge the head three times and beeing come foorth of the washing place ●o taste the conjunction of milke and hony for a signification of infancy not to pray kneeling nor to fast upon our Lords day and through out the whole Quinquagesima or fifty dayes with many other unwritten things which mens indifferent observation doth chall●nge to it selfe Such is the language of the
pag. 76. Cha. 8. A proofe of the same by the practice of the Primitive Church p. 110. Chap. 9. Three reasons wherefore Tradition is preferred before the Scripture c. pag. 121. Chap. 10. That in this Question by the word Church our Adversaries understand the Pope alone pag. 129. Chap. 11. Of what sort how weake and how uncertaine the Foundations are whereon the Traditions of the Romish Church are built c. pag. 139. Chap. 12. That our Adversaries alledging the Scripture doe contradict themselves and alledge Scripture for Tradition in generall without touching the particulars wherein they finde the Scripture contrary pag. 165. Chap. 13. That our Adversaries to distinguish the good Traditions from bad doe give vs a plea wherein th●y wholly convict themselves p. 175. Chap. 14. A proofe of the same by the Traditions which our Adversars ●s doe ●uppose to be the mist ancient and best grounded in Antiquity p. 195. Chap. 15. The secon● marke set by our Adversaries to distinguish the good Traditions from the bad viz. Succession p. 205. Chap. 16. That the Pharisees and ancient Hereticks had recourse to Tradition that Clemens Alexandrius suffered himselfe to be too much carried away in the same p. 217. Chap. 17 An examination of the passages of Scripture whereon they found Traditions p. 223. Chap 18. An answere to that which is obje●●ed vnto us that the Church hath bin sometime without the Scripture pag. 231. Chap. 19. That the Church of the old Testament after the Law given by Moses vntill Iesus Christ hath had no unwritten Traditions p. 236. Cha. 20. An answer to our adversaries a●●●●ming that we receive many Traditions contained in Scripture p. 254 Chap. 21. A proofe of the sufficiency and perfection of the Scriptures by the testimony of God himselfe speaking in the Scriptures P. 267. Chap. 22. Whether to ground a Doctrine it be lawfull to use words equivalent to those that are found in the Scripture or to vse consequences and Arguments pag. 298. Chap. 23. Testimonies of the Fathers touching the perfection of the Scripture pag. 322. Cha. 24. How the Texts and passages of the Fathers which our Adversaries alledge for the unwritten Traditions ought to be vnderstood p. 346. Chap. 25. A proofe of that which went before pag. 349. Cha. 26. Three ancient Customes which we are blamed to have forsaken p. 393 Chap. 27. That the Traditions of the Romish Church of this time have nothing in common with the unwritten Traditions mentioned by the Fathers pag. 398. Chap. 28. Of the multitude of Traditions in the Church of Rome p. 403. A LEARNED TREATISE OF TRADITIONS OF THE SACRED Scriptures perfection against the Traditions of the Romish Church CHAP. 1. Concerning the nature of this Controversie OVr Adversaries were accustomed a great while to dispute by way of Scripture but at length perceiving themselues weake in the cause and being much disquieted that the Scripture doth locke them vp into so narrow a roome they spurne against it labouring to make it appeare doubtfull and without authoritie By this meanes our Controversies change their nature for instead of disputing by ground of Scripture we are now led backe to dispute of the Scripture it selfe and to defend the Authoritie and Perfection of it This is now the field wherein our Adversaries doe sport and display the mettall of their conceits They accuse the Scripture of imperfection and insufficiencie of obscuritie and vncapablenesse to determine any difference calling it a dumbe and imperfect rule a nose of wax a rocke of scandall a scabbard that receiveth as well a leaden as a steele blade And though Church of Rome bee partie in the cause yet will it bee Iudge supreame and infallible If the Church bee Iudge shee of Rome will bee Iudge and will haue it appertaine to her to prescribe her taske vnto her selfe and to bee soveraigne Iudge of her owne proper dutie Our Adversaries make the Church of Rome the Iudge infallible of her owne proper infallibilitie and that shee shall bee soveraigne Iudge of the interpretation of the same Lawes wherby God doth judge her sinnes They sticke not to say that the Church of Rome is no way subject to the Scripture that is to say to God speaking by his Prophets and Apostles So on the other side they maintaine that the Scripture is subject to the Church of Rome and ought to be regulated by the Faith of that Church They avow that to bee the singular and onely Church which giueth authoritie to the Scripture and will haue the Scripture inferiour to the Church in Dignity in Stability in Certainty in Antiquitie and in Amplitude Yea so farre they proceed that the Pope may adde to the Creed dispense contrary to the Apostles alter that which God hath ordained in the holy Scriptures and dispose of his Commandements They hold that the sacred Scripture bee therefore entertained and received amongst men because the Pope doth approoue and ordaine it so to be as if the Pope were more to be credited then God speaking in his holy Scriptures or that he were no whit subject to the Law of God conta●ned in the Scripture In all this controversie betweene the Scripture and the Church concerning the preheminence by this word Church our adversaries alwayes understand the Romish although there be many other more ancient and more pure namely the Greeke the Syrian the Affrican c. and by the Romish church they understand the Pope alone in whom resideth the soveraigne authori●ie who judgeth all ●hings without possibility to erre yea then especially when hee judgeth alone motu proprio of his owne meere motion and speaking in the Chayre Apostolique and when it is his pleasure to joyne unto him some Prelates for his assistance in Decreeing hee reinvesteth them with infallible knowledge and vnderstanding yea in the poynts which he himselfe understandeth not Whosoeuer will heere open his eyes and not forbid himselfe the use of reason shall easily perceiue that Satan by this proceeding indeavoureth slily to bring in Atheisme and to vndermine the foundations of Christian Religion For by this meanes the Christian Faith is not founded vpon the Word of God contained in the holy Scriptures but vpon humane and uncertaine evidence yea the most uncertaine that can bee conceived they justifying the authoritie of the Church of Rome to be onely established vpon the testimony of the Romish Church making her Iudge witnesse and party in the same cause and endeavouring to make men beleeue that the Church of Rome hath more authoritie then the Scriptures for she her selfe doth say it If it be so that the authoritie of the Scripture bee grounded vpon the authoritie of the Church of Rome why doe they alledge unto us passages of Scripture to support the authoritie of the Church of Rome And when instead of directing the Faith of a Christian by the Word of God speaking in the Scriptures they send him to the Church the simple people are perplexed and
universall Councels most ancient of greatest authority and which Pope Gregory the first equalleth to the foure Evangelists Pope Gelasius speakes the same for in his Tome of the Bond of an Anathema disputing against one of the foure first Councells to wit against that of Chalcedon where there were sixe hundred and thirty Bishops he urgeth thus The Apostolicall Seat alone dissanulleth that which a Synodall Assembly Quod refutauit sedes Apostolica habere non potuit firmitatem sola rescind● qd prater ordinē congregatio Synodica pis● taverit vsurpandum though to haue vsurped against order The subject of his choler against this so famous and honourable assembly was for that in this Councell is framed a Canon ordaining that the Bishop of Constantinople should be equall to the Bishop of Rome in all things and that hee should haue the same preheminences CHAP. XI Of what sort how weake and how vncertaine the foundations are wheron Traditions of the Romish Church are built and of the three maximes that serue for their defence and prop. THe Traditions of the Church of Rome are of so great a number that a meere Catalogue of them would furnish out a large volume The whole rabble of them hath these three maximes for their foundation 1. That the Pope is Successor to St. Peter in the charge of Head of the universall Church 2. Secondly that the Pope cannot erre in the faith 3. That the Apostles haue not set downe in writing all that they did teach by word of mouth Hee that will comprehend the nature of these maximes shall know that they evert the Christian faith and consume all Religion into smoke for if the Maximes wheron all Papistry is founded and all the body of Romish Traditions bee imaginary maximes and purely humane not to giue a worse phrase it is impossible that the Religion which is built thereupon can haue the least tittle of assurance 1. The first maxime that layeth downe the Pope to bee Saint Peters Successor in the charge of Head of the vniversall Church is destitute of all testimony of Gods Word and our Adversaries to vphold it produce nothing but humane testimonies Whence it followeth that it is not an Article of the Christian Faith and that it cannot be beleeved for a certaintie of faith for the Christian faith is grounded upon the Word of God Faith commeth by ●earing and hearing by the Word of God Rom. 10. 17. But the Church of Rome giveth his maxime not onely for an Ar●cle of Faith but also for a foun●ation of all the other Articles of ●aith and of the whole Religion For in the Church of Rome the Popes authoritie is planted to be a Foundation of the Church and of all the doctrine of salvation to the very subjecting of the Scripture that is to say the word of God to his authoritie and to cause that the authoritie of the Scripture depend vpon the opinion of the Church of Rome and all this by vertue of that pretended Succession to St. Peter Briefly our Adversaries make all Christian Religion to hang vpon this poynt as Bellarmine acknowledgeth at the entrance of the Preface in his Books of the Pope speaking thus To say in a word when mention is made of the Etenim de qua re agitur cum de primatu Pontificis agitur breutssime dicam de summa rei christianae ●● ent● quaeritur aebeatne Ecelesia diutius consistere an vero dissolui concidere Observ andic est tertia licet force no sit de ●ure diuno Romanis̄ Pontificē ut Romanum Pentificem Petro succecere tamen ●● ad fidem Catholicam pertinere Nō enim est idem alsquid esse de fide et esse de ture divine Nec enim de oure divine fuit ●● Paulus h●beret penulā est tamen ●●● ipsum de fide 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 penulam Etsi autem Romanum Pontificem suc●edere Petro nō habeatur expresse in scripturis c. Popes supremacy the summe of all Christianitie is at stake for the question is whether the Church ought to subsist any longer or whether it must bee dissolved and fall Thereunto doe all the Controversies referre and all the Traditions ayme at the profit and greatnesse of the Pope yet the same Cardinall at the 12. chap. of the second Booke of the Pope acknowledgeth that the Scripture maketh no mention of the Popes succession in the place of Saint Peter and that this poyut is not jure divino Neverthelesse hee affiemeth that this succession though it bee not jure divino leaueth not to appertaine to the Catholick faith In the same manner as the Catholicke faith beleeueth that Saint Paul had a Friers weed though that were not jure divine and that God had not commanded any thing to that purpose Hence it is manifest that all the diuine doctrine is founded vpon a plaine humane Tradition to weet a Tradition vnwritten That God hath ordained the Pope of Rome for Successour in the Primacy of Saint Peter Thus you see Tradition grounded vpon tradition that is vpon it selfe and this infinite Masse of traditions is founded vpon a Traditions that is no more jure diuino then Saint Pauls weed whereof never was any diuine Testimony extant I will not at this time enter into proofes of the falsity of this matter which wee haue handled in diuers places especially in my booke that went before and shewed the vntruths by aboundance of reason and authority drawne from antiquity I say but this that the ancient Bishops of Rome were called Successours of Saint Peter in the Bishopricke only of the Citie of Rome but not in the Apostleship nor in the goverment of the vniuersall Church Iust as the Bishops of Ierusalem were called Successors of Saint Iames and those of Antioch of Saint Peter and those of Ephesus of Saint Paul and of Saint Iohn not in the Apostl ship but in the Bishopricke of th● townes wherein these Apostles had planted the Church Our adversaries produce not any example or passage of the ancient Church whereby it may appeare that ever the Bishops of Rome attributed any authority to themselues over the Churches that are out of the Romane Empire I say also that when the Bishop of Rome was heretofo●e Successor to Saint Peter in place of head of the Church so it was that the heresies which infected this seat as our adversaries themselues doe confesse and the Popes complaine of it and the Schismes which haue rent it there hauing beene two Popes at once sometimes three at the same instant prosecuting one the other to extremity and calling one the other Antichrist did long since breake the chaine of this succession In which Schismes ordinarily the most vicious and most cunning caried it and hee excluded his adversary who had the favour of those Emperours and Kings on whom the fortune of warre did smile This continued straine of succession not being possibly knowen but by the multitude of Histories and Authors both
were not sufficient of themselves to expiate the sinnes but that they drew their vertue from the death of Iesus Christ and that those which did eate of the Paschall-lambe were to have respect to Iesus Christ and to understand the signification of this Lambe Now say these men they could not learne this from the bookes of Moses nor from the Prophets therefore they learnt it by the unwritten Tradition In speaking thus they falsific the words of the Apostle Saint Peter who at the 10. of the Acts 43. saith that To Iesus Christ all the Prophets give witnesse that through his name whosoever beleeveth in him shall receive remission of sinnes And they contradict Saint Paul who at the 26 of the Acts 22. Saith of himselfe that he speaketh no other things then those which the Prophets and Moses did foretell should come to passe They also abuse themselves to thinke that it was then necessary to every one of the faithfull to have a cleere insight and vnderstanding of the sacrifices of the Law and of the Paschall Lambe for the faithfull are not bound to beleeve of Iesus Christ more then that which God by his Word hath revealed unto them If any one about the time of Moses offering sacrifice according to the Law were not instructed in the doctrine of the death of our Redeemer but only beleeved that God through the meanes which hee knoweth to be most agreeable and convenient will forgiue vs our trespasies it were rashnesse to goe about to exclude such a man from salvation and it is certaine that then the faithfull were not without instruction as touching this point for they were prompted by the Scriptures to expect this seed of the Woman which should crush the head of the Serpent and the seed of Abraham wherein all Nations should be blessed Cardinall Perron is aduised of a third Tradition not written in the old Testament which neuerthelesse if we could beleeue it was necessary to saluation He supposeth that it was necessary for the Iewes to beleeue that the fire of their sacrifices after the captiuity was descended from Heaven and that the same continuall fire which was vpon the Altar was conserved by miracle during the tranfmigration Whereupon I say that 2. Macc. I. this miraculous conseruation of the fire being but a Iudaicall fable the Iewes were not bound Hac de rev●de Rabbi Shelomo in ea 1 Aggai Talmud Tractatu Tukasin 1. fol. 21. Rabbi Moshe Ren Me●mon tractat de 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to beleeue it The charge of the Sacrificers was to put the fire vpon the Altar as it is sayd Leuit. 1. 7. The sonnes of Aaron Nadab and Abihu did sinne not because they placed strange fire vpon the Altar but in putting into their Censers the fire which they tooke from else-where and not from off the Altar Leuit. 10. 1. Looke vpon the 8. of the Apoc 5. Moreouer put the case this fable were admitted for true yet is it not a rule of Religion nor a doctrine of Faith but only a meere History whereof whosoeuer had bin ignorant had not incurred eternall damnation And admit that vnder the old Testament the Church had vnwritten Traditions it should not therefore follow that it was lawfull for the Church of Rome to forge new ones and to equall them in authority to the writings of the Prophets and Apostles CHAP. XX. An answere to our Adversaries affirming that wee receive many Traditions contained in the Scripture OVr Adversaries upbraid us in that we who reject traditions are neverthelesse constrained to admit of many Ye beleeve say they that these bookes are canonicall ye allow of baptizing such as are Heretikes and the baptisme of little infants yee beleeve the procession of the holy Spirit from the Father and the Sonne and the translation of the Sabbath to the Dominicall day and the perpetuall virginity of Mary the mother of Christ yee beleeve that women ought to sing in the Church yee grant the words of Consubstantiation of Trinity of Person and of Sacrament which are not found in the holy Scripture I have already said that we reject not all unwritten Traditions but only those which adde something to the doctrine of salvation contained in holy Scriptures For answere to their objection that wee receive this unwritten Tradition to wit These bookes are canonicall to say so much of the bookes is not to adde to the canonicall bookes And speaking in that manner we are so farre from adding to Scripture that on the contrary it is a declaration that nothing is to be added thereunto and that it is the perfect rule of our faith Yet to have a complete certainety of the sacrednesse of these bookes there must be a stronger testimony then this Tradition An illiterate man not instructed in the knowledge of God receiveth the testimony of the Church of his owne countrey which telleth him that these books are canonicall as a probable testimony and which hee should not willingly contradict but then hee beginneth to have of it a divine testimony and of soveraigne efficacie when the Spirit of God by the Doctrine contained in this Scripture hath enlightened his spirit and inflamed his heart with a secret vertue whereof it is in vaine to dispute with those that feele it not the which cannot serve for a Law to another but serveth to every one of the faithfull in particular to assure his conscience It is also to bee considered that the testimony of shewing such and such bookes to bee canonicall might proceed as well from an hereticall as from an orthodox Church The Apostles received the holy Scripture from the Pharises and Sacrificers who were enemies to Iesus Christ Whence it appeareth that the testimony which the Church affordeth to the Scriptures is not of supreme authority and indubitable but invalid It is by faith that we beleeve that the contents of the Scripture are the word of God which faith is not given by the Church for it is an effect of the Spirit of God Touching the other points I speake of them in generall that if they bee Doctrines and Rules of the Christian faith not contained in the Scripture we are not bound to beleeve them But when every one of these points shall be examined asunder some will bee found contained in the Scripture others are not Doctrines nor Lawes or Rules of the Christian faith nor things requisite or necessary to salvation I am astonished to behold how our Adversaries dare to insert the Baptisme of little infants amongst the unwritten traditions seeing that their selves disputing against the Anabaptists prove it by many passages of Scripture Bellarmine in his eighth Chapter of the first Booke of Baptisme bringeth these proofes of Scripture that Baptisme succeeded Circumcision which was applied to little infants That Iesus Christ at the ninth of Saint Matthew saith Suffer the little ones t● come to me c. That in the sixteenth of the Acts Lydia is baptized by Saint Paul
hindred from choosing the best Church amongst many contrary How shall they choose Church from the false shall they know it in examining her doctrine by the Scripture that may not be for the Scripture is a Booke that the people are not permitted to reade and our adversaries affirme that the Church is not subject or bound to the Scripture and that the Church may change the same which God commaunded in the Scripture Shall they discerne the true Church by antiquity and succession nor that for the Syrian and Greeke Churches contrary to the Romish are more ancient then that of Rome deriving their succession from the Apostles and punctually to judge in this succession and antiquitie infinite Histories both Greeke and Latine ought to be read wherein the people vnderstand little or nothing And amongst the Clergie it selfe scarce one of an hundred is found that hath but ordinary or competent knowledge therein Hee that but entreth into the view thereof shall discouer the seat of the Romane Pontifies defiled with heresies and enormous crimes yea mangled and rent with Schismes that are decided by stroke of sword and according to the power of Emperours and Kings doeth the scale weigh downe Shall they haue respect to the generalitie and multitude no Iesus Christ calleth his Church a little flocke Luke 12. 32. and signifieth vnto vs that the multitude and broad way leade to perdition Math 7. 13 14. Shal they giue heed to miracles no the Apostle hath foretold us that the sonne of perdition who is Antichrist shall come with signes and miracles 2. Thess 2. 9. And Iesus Christ admonisheth vs that false prophets shall arise and shall make signes wonders to seduce Math. 24. 24. Now seeing that so many false miracles are wrought and the most predominant Courts of Iustice haue made many Decrees against the workers of them how and by what markes shall the poore people distinguish the true miracles from the false seeing there is no knowledge of the true doctrien declaring Gods will that we should discerne the miracles Deut. 13. v. 1 2 3. Briefly it is certaine that the Scriptures authoritie being no more the foundation and direction of the beleeuers faith all Religion vanisheth and turneth into smoke and there remaines nothing but to beleeue at adventure to follow the generalitie and like blind men to lay hands on him that marcheth next before vs. It is answered that in this perplexitie the people are to follow their Doctors and Pastors for they are the men that vndertake with God for the people What must euery man beleeue the Pastors of his owne countrey must they follow the Church wherein they are borne shall man owe his Religion to his birth or the custome of his countrey or the successe of affaires If it bee answered that by the Pastors and Doctors those of the Church of Rome are to be vnderstood therein lies the poynt of difficultie For the question is if those Doctors bee sound and good teachign the true way of health conformably to the Word of God which they conceale from the people in denying them to reade the holy Scriptures then are the people bound to beleeue that these are good Doctors before they know the good doctrine and that this church is the true church before they know or apprehend the truth They are also bound to beleeue what the church of Rome beleeveth not knowing what that Church ought to beleeue But if it be their tenent that every particular person bee assisted with the Spirit of God to bee able to discerne the true Church why hold they not that hee bee assisted with the same spirit to discerne the true doctrine and to examine it by the holy scriptures seeing that the true Church cannot bee distinguished but by the true doctrine for the true faith is first to be knowne before the true faithfull can be distinguished and the true rule is to be well vnderstood before those that follow it can be knowne Christ must first be knowne before there is possibility of knowing undoubtedly what Church is truely his flocke Adde likewise heereunto that the faith of the Romish Doctors dependeth entirely upon the Popes faith neverthelesse they for the greatest part doe beleeue that the Pope may erre and the Popes themselues doe confesse the same as wee haue elsewhere prooved Yea their errors are condemned by those Councels which the Church of Rome did allow And it is hard to beleeue that he cannot erre who boasteth of his authority and power to change that which God hath ordained to dispense with his commandements Add moreover that the greatest ●●atterers of the Popes that haue written their histories and liues doe lament the corruption of that seat and complaine of the traffique it exerciseth and of the infamous ●●ving of many Popes and their intolerable pride for what doth the Pope hee is advanced so far as to call himselfe God and the divine Maiestie to cause himselfe to bee adored to reach forth to Emperours a pantable to be kissed to dispose the crownes and liues of Kings and to release soules out of Purgatory insomuch as from a poore Biship of a citie who in the Primitiue time appeared not but in the martyrdomes is by degrees become a great Monarch of the earth that surpasseth in riches and treasure the greatest Kings of the world These things considered may we fix in our minds a just cause to suppose that the Pope is the same man that the Scripture hath foretold to come into the world to * 2 Thess 2. 7 8. Apoes 13. 11 2. Thess 2. ● 4. 9. Apocal. 17. 3. 4. 9. 18. Apocal. 17. 2. Apocal. 13. 15. lift himselfe up into the shrone of Roman Emperours stile himselfe God vaunt of signes and miracles he that should be● cloathed in scarlet should possesse his seat in a towne of seven mountaines which is Romes description should seduce Kings wage war against the Church and vanquish it and all this vnder the name of Christian assuming to himselfe the title and authoritie of Iesus Christ For so saith the Spirit of God in the 13 of the Apocalipse Hee shall haue the hornes of a Lambe but shall speake like a dragon These things having beene foretold aboue fifteene hundred yeares past no man since that time hath so swelled himselfe to so high a pitch as to haue these recived things appropriated vnto him but the Pope of Rome Is it by chance or adventure that such pre●ogatiues haue met in one man Surely these considerations are sufficient to cause a suspition in ●s that this is the man who should haue more authoritie then the Scripture that would haue himselfe beleeved when hee saith that the Scripture is subject vnto him and that he hath power to change it that is to say to contradict it For no man can extoll himselfe aboue the Scripture vnlesse it bee meerely to impugne it Now though man fearing God and touched with the zeale of his
is rejected and made odious to the people as a dangerous booke I. We haue seene in the former Chapter how our adversaries affirme openly that the Pope and Church of Rome can alter the Lords Institution and nullifie his Ordinance the which being granted it necessarily followeth that the tradition of the Church which correcteth the holy Scripture and altereth what is therein ordained bee of greater authoritie then the Scripture II. When our adversaries vnanimously affirme that the Scripture is not Iudge but that the authority of judging belongeth to the Church heereby they withdraw us from the Scriptures judgement to rely vpon the Churches Tradition for by the Tradition of the Church they onely understand the Lawes of the Church of Rome by the which they would haue us judged III. When they say that the Stapleton lik 2. de authoritate Scripturae cap. 11. Dix● et d●c● non tā ipsius fidei regulam in se esse scripturā quam ipsam scriptura●ū regu●ā esse 〈◊〉 Ecclesi● Scripture is not the rule of our faith but that it is the faith of the Church that ruleth the Scripture they manifestly preferre Tradition of the church before Scripture for the faith of the Church and Tradition of the Church are all one IIII. These goodly Maximes wherewith they dull our eares Charron a● 2. chap de l● troisieme verite Nous voulous l'eglise avoir pour nostre regard plus d'authorite que l'escriture That the Church ought to haue more authoritie over vs then the Scripture That it is the Church which giveth authoritie to the Scriptures and that the authoritie of the Scripture over vs is founded vpon the authoritie of the Church what are their meaning other then that the Scripture oweth that authoritie she hath to the Tradition of the Church For the Tradition of the Church is nothing else but the voice and judgement of the Church whereby shee pronounceth as being a soveraigne and infallible Iudge that the Scripture ought to be received V. If the Scripture must bee Staplet lib. 1 de authorit Scriptura c. 9 Ipsis Proph●tis è medio ●ublatu ●●rū prophet●as à Deo esse crede●dū non est nisi id Ecclesia confi●met Synodus Romana sub Gregor 7. Quod nullus liber Canonicus habeatur sine authoritate Papa beleeved because the Tradition of the Church so ordained it what followeth but that Tradition of the Church of Rome is more credible then the Scripture VI. The Iesuite Coster in his Enchiridion chap. 1. calleth the doctrine imprinted in the heart of the Church an other species or kind of Scripture and compareth it also with holy Scriptures The excellence Huius Scripturae praestantia ●ul●is partibus su●erat scripturas quas nobis in membra●● Apostoli reliquerunt Primū quod illa exarata sit digito dei hac calamis Apostolorū saith hee of this kind of Scripture surpasseth much the holy Scripures which the Apostles haue left vs in parchment especially because this is witten with the finger of God the other was written with Apostles pens By his leaue I would willingly aske him whether the Apostles pennes were not guided by the spirit of God VII Carranza in the second Controversie The Church is a rule Nos di●imus quod prior regula et notior et multo latior est Ecclesia quam Scriptura canonica ●t hac ab illa debet regulari non è contra that is elder and more knowne yea much more ample then the Canonicall Scripture and this ought to be governed by that but not on the contrary ●n saying that the Church is a rule ●t is evident that by the Church ●ee understandeth the Tradition and lawes of the Church for the persons are not the rule VIII Bellarmine in his fourth Quadā sunt Traditiones maiores quod ad obligationē quā quadam Scripturae booke of the Word of God chap. 6. There are Traditions that are greater then some Scriptures in poynt of obligation IX Salmeron in his first Prolegomenon § Nunc de Nam etsi Eccclesiae ac Scripturae authoritas à Deo sit illa tamen Ecclesia antiquior est atque adeo dignior siquidē Scriptur● propter Ecclesiā contexta est Though the authoritie as well of the Church as of the Scripture bee of God yet the authoritie of the Church is more ancient yea and more worthy for the Scripture is made for the Church By the same reason one might say that subjects haue more authoritie then Lawes and Kings for the people are more ancient then Lawes and Kings and Lawes and Kings are made because of the people Now the authoritie of the Church of Rome cannot bee promoted aboue the Scripture but that by the same reason the authoritie of Tradition in the Church of Rome is to be advanced aboue the Scripture for Tradition is the law of the Church of Rome X. Cordubensis To decide contr●versies C●dub Art ● cap. 80. Catholicae Ecclesi● Traditi● est certiss●●a regula of the Faith Tradition of the Catholique Church is the most certaine Rule XI Wee haue formerly heard Coster and Salmeron the Iesuites speaking that God would not haue Traditions that are taught out of the Apostles mouth to bee written for feare lest holy things should be given to doggs Herein doe they not clearely signifie that the Scriptures are for the dogs but that God would not haue Traditions to bee in such danger as being more sanctified things and worthy of greater respect XII To what end doe these men say that Iesus Christ hath commaunded the Apostles to preach and not to write but that unwritten Tradition might be preferred before the Scripture and haue much more authoritie XIII Did it ever happen that any of our adversaries haue reported the same of Traditions which they haue said of Scripture Haue they ever called the Traditions a dumbe rule a part or parcell of a rule an ambidexter sword a stone of scandall a nose of wax haue they ever accused Traditions of obscurity of ambiguity or of imperfection as they haue the Scripture XIV But the Iesuite Salmeron shall suffice for all for in the third part of his 13 Tome and 8 Disputation hee treateth of this matter punctually and at large and thus compareth Scripture with Tradition Tradition saith he is aboue all § Estigin●● 〈◊〉 est 〈◊〉 ad salute 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Ebidem P●●●● ergo Scriptura ●●mendat traditione 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 scripturā et ob id magis est necessaria quia ad 〈◊〉 come adandā est Scriptura-Necessaria ost 〈◊〉 ad 〈◊〉 du bra qua expresse in scri 〈◊〉 ●on conti●ent or nec 〈◊〉 §. Postre●● Ibidem ●ui nō creditura dir●om in ecclesia receta 〈◊〉 scriptura malo 〈◊〉 similes est ●●l●●● aebitum reddere si non ostēdatur syngra●ha cum satu sit idoneos produce●● restes §. Secunda Se●unda cōditio 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 qu●● sit Ser. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 § 〈◊〉 Trtia conditio
quae traditione commendat est claritas perspa 〈◊〉 Nam primū Scripturas 〈◊〉 von cognoscit §. D●●de Scriptura p●test ab haeroticu traili ad qd sibi quisque collibuerit § Tertio quia Scriptura dubiorū quae pullulab●● 〈◊〉 ess● non ●oterat c. ●● quia 〈◊〉 a●f 〈◊〉 est tum quia muta est c. H●nc in 〈◊〉 Testamento ad Ecclesiā mettitur qui aliquo 〈◊〉 torquetur o● cōstat Act. 15. on autem ad ●● riptaras qu● s● instar nasi ceret ducuntur quo quis vult c. Ideo protervire volētes Scripturis nō possunt refelli vna ergo traditione ●ugulana● sunt § Quod autē Q●●● h●c su fi●mior inde ●●ns●are potest quia notior est Ecclesia et Apostolorū sanctitas quam scripturae cū haec per illam cognoscatur Ibidem Scripturae verae probantur quia sunt cōformes traditioni iam factae things necessary to sa●vation yea high●● then Scripture it selfe And a little after The Scripture rather recommendeth Tradition then Tradition the Scripture and therefore Tradition is more necessary for Scripture is made to recommend Tradition to vs. And there againe Tradition is nec●ssary because of many doubts that are not contained nor expresly defined in the Scriptures And againe Hee that beleeveth not the Tradition received in the Church but s●archeth the Scripture resembl●th an ill debtor who refuseth to pay vnlesse he see a quittance or the bond when as to produce fit witnesses would be enough Which is as much to say as the people may pretermit and balke the Scrip●ure but must cling close to the Testimony and Tradition of the church of Rome He further alledgeth Tradition is more ancient then Scripture whence hee inferreth that it is more excellent then Scrip●ure and saith a gaine that the same which recommendeth the Traditions abou● Scrip●ure is their clearenesse and evidence for the people haue no knowledg of the Scripture and the Scripture may bee wrested by the Heretiques to whatsoever they will Hee addeth likewise that the Scripture hath not been able to iudge of doubts because it is difficult and dumbe and that hee that is troubled with any doubt in the new Testament is sent to the Church Actes 15. but not to the Scriptures which like a waxen nose are moulded and twisted at pleasure Whereupon saith hee those that will be perverse cannot bee vanquished by the Scriptures their throats then must be cut by Tradition alone And further That Tradition is more firme then scripture it appeareth in this that the Church and the sanctity of the Apostles is more knowne then Scripture because this is knowne by that Wherein hee speaketh against common sense for it is by the Scripture that wee learne the sanctitie of the Apostles and wee know not that God will haue but one Church in the world if he did not teach it vs in the Scriptures Againe hee dareth to say that the Scriptures are true because they are conformable to the Tradition already made Will wee know if the unwritten Word of God in two Tables ought to be received will we know if the doctrine contained in the Psalmes of David in the Prophets and in the Evangelists bee true let us enquire what the Popes opinion is and what Tradition of the Romish Church is and wee shall soone bee satisfied for say our adversaries the Scripture must be examined by the Tradition of the Church of Rome which is the rule of Scripture and is not ruled by the Scripture Truely these things cannot bee read without horror and detestation Of the selfe same stuffe is that Apostoli non scripserunt omnes quasi ex cōmuni consensu partito labore sed tantū aliqui pro causa particulari et ad conservandam traditionem which he addeth The Apostles haue not written by one common consent but some haue written for particular respects to preserue Tradition When you heare these kinde of people speake you would say that the Scripture is nothing but a letter of credence to giue authoritie to the Church of Rome and her Traditions Wherefore he concludeth that Ibidem Ideo nen receaendū est ab Ecclosia viva traditione erudita vel ob scriptura● allegatas no man ought to depart from the Church instructed by living Traditions notwithstanding the allegations of Scripture Hee compareth also the amplitude and large extent of Tradition with the narrow limits of the scripture § Qu●n●ò Traditio multo est vniversalio quam Script●ra quia ad plura tempora ad plura obiecta et ad lura individua s● exte●ait Tradition saith hee is much more vn●versall then Scripture and reacheth to further time to more matter and more persons then the scripture To bee short if these men were to bee beleeved Tradition comprehendeth all the doctrine of faith and maners but many things are wanting in the Scripture Having in this manner dishonored the Scripture and placed it far below Tradition hee makes them fight and plotteth to haue the allegations of Scripture to be repulsed by Tradition To those saith §. Alias P●tenti scripturā opponenda est Traditio hee who demand the Scripture Tradition is to be offered in opposition as if hee should tell us You aske me passages of Scripture but content your s●lfe that I alleadge vnto you Tradition and the op●nion of the Church of Rome For this is the more necessary rule more ancient more firme more easie more vniversall and by which the truth of the Scripture ought to bee examined Thus is the Word of God handled and it is so come to passe that the same Iesuite in his § Quarto cum Cum Scriptura obscura sit valde nec i●dex esse qu●at c. Proprium ergo et diabolicū sensum h●bent i●●●rco peius est illu vacare Scripturis quā fabul● tenth Disputation having said that the Scripture cannot be Iudge addeth that the Heretiques for so he qualifies us haue a diabolicall sense and doe worse to addict themselues to the Scripture then to apply themselues to fables But nothing doth more plainly shew w th what a loud voice our adversaries cry up the traditiō of the Church of Rome aboue the Scripture then when they say that the church is not subject nor bound to the Scripture but the Scripture is subject to the church that is to say God is subject to men For our adversaries acknowledge that the scripture is the word of God These Lindan Panop●●n indic● titulorū lib. 5 cap. 5. are the words of Lindanus in hi● Panoplia The Church hath not been Ecclesiā non esse ex voluntate Christi scripturu allegatam obliged to the Scriptures by Christs will and commandement Coster the Iesuite in his 3. chapter of his Manuall Christ was not willing Christus nec Ecclesiā suā à chartace● scriptis pendere nec mēbra●is mysteria sua committere voluit that his Church should depend vpon
prescribed any Law to the Church of Rome when as all the Councells haue beene made and haue taken their force by the authority of the Church of Rome and in their statutes the authority of the Pope is cleerly excepted Who doth not perceiue that in these words by the Church of Rome the Pope alone is vnderstood for our Aduersaries deny not but that the people and Clergie of the Church of Rome are subject to the Councells The Iesuite Gregory of Valence in Pontifexi●● Roma●● e●t in qu● auth●ritas illa r●●det qu● in Ecclesia extat ad iudg●andū de omnibus omnino controversis fidei the title of the seuenth booke of his Analysis The Pope of Rome is he in whom resideth all authority of the Church to iudge entirely of all doubts of the Faith Andradius in his first booke of the defence of the Tridentine faith Fide Papae nostra continetur ex eius vnjus authoritate salus omnium pendet Our faith consisteth in the faith of the Pope and vpon his authority alone dependeth all mens saluation Iudge whether mans saluation bee not well deriued Whereupon hee Non minor est Papae ad controversias dirimendas quā Ecclesiae totius authoritas speaks there againe that the authority of the Pope to decide all controuersies is not lesse then the authority of the whole Church And wee haue formerly heard the Iesuite Vasques affirming that the authority of the Pope is not lesse then that of the Apostles and that hee can abrogate and cancell the Apostles commandements In the second Session of the last Lateran Councell these words are expresse Behold Ecce adest Divi Petri successor I●● lius nō minor authoritate Iulius the Successour of Saint Peter no lesse in authority then him It is true that when the Pope will hee ioyneth some Prelates with him to assist him in his decreeing But whereas hee cals and chooseth whom hee will these Prelates haue not authority but by him and the Pope an enact all without them This is that which Cardinall Bellarmine hath in his third booke of Iste iudex non potest esse scripturae c. Igitur Princeps Ecc esiasticus vel solus vel cum consilto et cōsensu coepiscop orum the word of God Chap. 9. That iudge cannot bee the Scripture therefore is it the Ecclesiasticall Prince either alone or with the aduice approbation of the brother Bishops For so our Aduersaries doe joyntly hold that when the Pope iudgeth in the Apostolicke chaire and as Pope his sole opinion and decree is as firme and certaine as if a Councell had voted vpon it And to remoue all doubt our adversaries blush not openly to affirme that by this word Church Grego de Valent Tom 3. in Thom. disput 1. q. 1. pusto 5. sect ● the Pope is to bee vnderstood Gregory of Valence the Iesuite after hauing said that the full authority of Hane authoritatem pleue in Romano Pontifice c res●dere qui scilicet de sides et morum controverstis ad vniversalē Ecclesiā pertinetibus vel per se vel cū generali Concilio sufficienter cōstituat Iam igitur quū dicimus propositionem Ecclesiae esse conditionem necessariam ad assansu ●● fidei nomine Ecclesia intelligimus eius caput id est Romanū Pontificē per se●vel vna cū Concilio iudging controuersies of the faith and manners which concerne the vniuersall Church doth plenarily reside in the Pope of Rome Christs Vicar hee addeth Now therefore when wee say that the Proposition of the Church is a condition necessary to oblige the Faith to one agreement by this word Church wee vnderstand her head which is to say the Pope of Rome either alone or with the Councell For hee is not of opinion that the Councell bee necessarily required Bellarmine expoundeth it thus in his second booke of the Councels Chap. 19. The Pope saith hee ought to speake it to the Church that is to say to himselfe And Pope Innocent the third in his Chapter Novit extra de iudicijs attributeth to himselfe the taking notice of a difference betweene Philip the second surnamed Augustus King of France and Iobn King of England for it is written tell it to the Church Now S. Peter was one of those to whom Iesus Christ spake Tell it to the Church was this Apostle able to divine that Iesus Christ vnderstood Tell it to thy selfe and that Iesus Christ would haue the party complainant to be iudge see then the Church which is a word that signifieth an assembly reduced to one man And the sense of this Article of the Creed I beleeue the Church shall bee I beleeue the Pope who sometimes cals himselfe god sometimes Iesus Christ and sometimes the Church so he shall bee Bridegroome and Spouse and one man shal cal himselfe an assembly And tell me to what purpose are Councels assembled so long and so painfull seeing nothing is to bee done but to consult the Papall Oracle with in one instant can decide al controversies without possibilitie of erring seeing I say that in one man wee haue the vniversall Church that the Councell can doe nothing without the Pope and that the Pope can doe all and judge of all without the Councell Whereupon Bellarmine affirmeth Bellar. lib. 4. de Roman Pontifice ca. 2. Sect. videntur Ipsā insallibilttatem non esse in coetu consiliariorum vel in concilio E. piscoporum sed in solo Pentisice with all the Doctors that the Infallibilitie of a Councell is not in the assembly of the Counsellers nor in the Councell of Bishops but in the Pope alone and yet in the meane time the Popes themselues never appeare not in the Councels This Advertisment was very necessary to the end that the Reader might know that as by the authoritie of the Church is understood the authoritie of the Pope so by Traditions of the Church nothing is understood but the Ordinances made or approoved by the Pope for they subsist not but by his authoritie and though they haue passed through a Councell yet the Pope can change abolish them and institute new in their stead without wayting for a Councell For should he haue lesse authoritie over Traditions then over the holy Scripture wherein he can alter the Ordinances and Institutions of our Lord He can dispense against the Apostle should not he be able to dispense against a Councell or against the custome which hath authorised a Tradition It is the same that Andradius expresly teacheth in the second Booke of his Defence of the Tridentine Faith Liquet minime eos ●rrasse qui dicunt Romanos Pontifices posse nonnunquam in legibus dispensare a Paulo et a primis quaetuor Concilys Greg. 1. lib. 1. Epist 24. Those saith hee erre not who affirme that sometimes the Popes in their lawes can dispence contrary to that of S. Paul and the foure first Councels which are the
Milan which is neere Rome they fasted not on Saturdayes as Saint Augustine testifieth in his 118. Epistle Thirdly single life of Priests and 3. Single life of Priests Bishops cannot be an Apostolicall Tradition because it was not practised at the time of the Apostles nor many ages after them But having spoken of this elsewhere at large I will content my selfe for the present with the testimony of the two most famous Cardinals of this age Barronius and Perron Baronius in the 58. yeere of his Annales Bar. Ann. 58 §. 14. acknowledgeth that married men were received to the function of Bishop at the Apostles time whereof hee alledgeth divers causes and namely amongst the rest the scarcity of unmarried men especially in Crete And Perron affirmeth Du Perron cōtre le Roy de la grand ' Bretagne pag. 312. A cause respondrens nous de la rareté des personnes marices lors de la naissance de l'Eglise c. Mais depuis comme l'Emperour Constantin c. that this permission lasted untill the time of Constantine that is to say during the three first ages But if he would have confessed the whole truth he had acknowledged that Greeke Churches never was any time when Priests were not married yea they so continue to this very day And the 13. Canon of the sixt generall Councel called at the Imperial Palace of Constantinople doth formally condemne the Church of Rome upon this subject Estius Doctor and Professor at Doway in his Commentary upon this passage of the Apostle 1 Tim. 3. Let the Bishop Fatendum est Avestolum permittere vt in Episcopum eligatur qui habeat verum id pro tēpore propter paucitatem eorla qui et coelibes essent ad Episcopatum idonei be husband of one wife speaketh thus We must confesse that the Apostle suffereth us to chuse a Bishop that is married to one wife but he teacheth this according to the time because of the fewnesse of unmaried men and of such as were fit for the function of a Bishop Therefore this Tradition claimeth not the Apostles to bee the Authours of it and consequently is not Apostolicall nor hath it beene received at all times and in all places I have insisted hereupon not that wee should have need of the authority of the ancients to fight against Romish Traditions for refutation whereof the word of God is sufficient and is only that which ought to judge us but to shew that our Adversaries supposing to establish their Traditions doe plainely destroy them and doe giue such notes whereby they draw their owne inditement and conviction Neverthelesse it is not without craft that they will have Traditions to bee examined by this touchstone to wit whether they have beene universally received at all times For they know that of those who would examine their Traditions by this way scarce one amongst a thousand can attaine to the head of them and that the people can inform themselves nothing at all therein for this examination cannot bee made but by the reading of all the Greeke and Latine Fathers and of all the Ecclesiasticall histories since the continuation of sixteene hundred yeeres All the bookes to this purpose would fill a spacious roome and are no more then sealed letters to the people yea amongst the Clergie not one of a hundred will bee found that hath but ordinary knowledge therein By this meanes our Adversaries contrive the matter that when their Traditions come to be examined a way must bee undertaken that is endlesse wherein the people walke blindefold and are constrained to repaire to the testimony of such men as preach these Traditions and live by them truly if by these directions men expect to arrive at the knowledge of salvation I know not who can be saved The which most cleerely appeareth in this that the holy Scripture being the short and sure means to examiue Traditions they sequester it farre from the peoples eyes and divert them from reading therof appointing them to books wherein they are neither comprehensive nor capable It appeareth likewise in the examination of Traditions by the history of every age wherein ordinarily they commence with the last age and so walke retrograde in the calculation of their times to the end they may arrive as late as possibly they can at the Apostles time and their writings CHAP. XV. The second marke set by our Adversaries to distinguish the good Traditions from the bad to wit Succession To discerne the good Traditions from the bad our Adversaries agree that those ought to be held for divine and Apostolicall which are received by the Churches that derive their succession from the Apostles This marke hath no more certainty then the former and maketh as much against our Adversaries The doubtfulnesse of it is manifest in this that the Churches of Antioch of Alexandria of Ephesus of Thessalonica of Candia c. which are contrary to the Romish Church and more ancient doe boast themselves to bee of equall succession and one part of them challengeth a succession from Saint Peter yea before the Churches of Alexandria and Antioch did suffer any interruption by the persecutions of the Mahumetans they were often in discord with the Church of Rome and were not in any wise subject unto it and more particularly the Church of Thessalonica founded upon Saint Paul and the Church of Candia where Saint Paul established Titus from whom descended the Bishops of Candia keepe a succession from the Apostles which never was interrupted and hath continued since the time of Christ who speaking from heaven sent the Apostle Saint Paul yet notwithstanding these Churches are separated from a communion with the Church of Rome and the Pope holdeth them for Schismatickes and Heretikes As for the Bishop of Rome so many schismes dividing and so many heresies tainting his Seat as our Adversaries themselves confesse and we have elsewhere proved have long since broken the ranke of this imaginary succession Also the uncertainty of this succession betrayeth it selfe in that it is a meere tradition so as if the service of Images or the Communion under one kinde be founded upon succession behold then Traditions founded upon a Tradition and this Tradition founded upon humane histories which may mistake yea often doe jarre and disagree wherefore this is an uncertainty founded upon another uncertainty as atomes and motes carried upon the aire But how shall a Mechanicke or a woman know this succession How shall they be assured that the second Bishop of Rome hath beleeved in the points of Religion as the first the third as the second the fourth as the third and so for sixteene hundred yeeres though there never might have happened any alteration Who doth not perceive that these men by a palpable falshood invent projects wherof they know that the knowledge is impossible and wherein the search is a labour in vaine to the end that the ignorant finding themselves muffled up in darknesse
Heretickes had recourse to Tradition and the unwritten word and that Clemens Alexandrinus suffered himselfe to bee too much carried away in the same THe custome of Heretickes both ancient and moderne is when they are at default in Scripture to have recourse to Traditions Iosephus in his 3. booke of Antiquities ch the 18. affirmeth that The Pharisees had very many observations by the successive Tradition of their Fathers which are not written in the law of Moses Whereupon Iesus Christ at the 15. of Saint Matt. the 3. 9. accuseth them to have transgressed the Law of God by their Tradition which Pharisaical Traditions were doctrines that for the most part commanded things not expresly forbidden in the Law of God as to clense their Pots and Vessell to wash their bodies at returne from Market to lengthen out their Phylacteries to fast twice in a weeke to poure forth longer prayers then ordinary to make conscience of healing the sicke or journeying more then two miles upon the Sabath This I observe to the end it may not be sayd that Iesus Christ condemneth them only for teaching things expresly forbidden in the law of God Tertullian in his booke of prescriptions chap. the 25. telleth us that the Heretikes of his time affirmed Non omnia volunt illv amnibus revelasle quaedā enim palam universis quadā seeretò at paucio demandasse That the Apostles had not revealed all things to all but that they had commanded some things openly and some in secret and to few But the same Tertullian after hee had written this booke applieth himselfe to defend the heresies of Montanus by the unwritten word speaking in the second Chapter of his booke of Monogamy that Christ De vtroque aute Daminus promus is avit Adouo habeo multa qua loquar ad ves c. pronounced his opinion thereupon when he sayd I have many things to tell you but you cannot at this time beare them away Irenaeus lived at the same time who in his first Booke and fourth Chap. saith that The Carpocratian Iesum in mysterio discipulu suis seersim lequmtum illes expostulasse vt dignis assentsentibus searsum hac traderēt Heretikes affirmed that Iesus had spoken in private to his Disciples and had required of them that they should teach these things a part to the worthy and to such as give their approbation thereof and in his 2. ch of the 3. booke Cum ex scriptur is arguuntur in accusationem convartuntur scripturarum quasi nō rectè habeant neq sint ex authoritate et quia varia sunt dicta quia non possit ex hu inventri veritas ab his qui nesetant traditionem Non enim per literat traditā illā sed per vivam vocem When they are confuted by the Scriptures they revile and turne againe to accuse the Scriptures themselues as if they were not as they should be and had not sufficient authority and because matters therein are diversly spoken and that in them the truth cannot be found by those who are ignorant of Tradition which they say was not givē by writing but viva voce by word of mouth Some twenty yeeres after the death of Saint Iohn one of his disciples named Papias Bishop of Hierapolis addicted himselfe to the unwritten 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Traditions the which were Parables and strange doctrines and other fabulous devices as Eusebius witnesseth at the last Chapter of the 3. Booke of his Ecclesiasticall History Clemens Alexandrinus a most worthy Author to be read but one who hath his infirmities venteth many vaine things and false doctrines drawne from Tradition as for example that the Greekes were justified by Phylosophy that Iesus Christ descended into hell to Preach to the Iewes that the Apostles also descended thither to Preach to the Gentiles and many other the like fancies all his bookes of his Stromatae are full of them especially the sixth The followers of Artemon the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Onones insipientisiumi haretici audacias sigm ●torū suorum juas maxime exhorret sensus humanus has occasione Evāgelica colorare nituntur vbi Dominus ait adhuc multa habeo vobis dicere sed non potestis portare mado quasi hae ip a sint qua tune discipuli portare non poterant heretick teaching matters not contained in the Scripture professed that They did exercise them from their predecessors yea from the Apostles as Eusehius hath it in the 5. booke of history chap. the 25. Saint Augustine writing vpon Saint Iohn at his 97. Treatise hath these words The most senselesse Hereticks who would be called Christians strive to colour their bold inventions which are abhorred by humane sense with the pretext of this evangelicall sentence where our Lord speaketh I have yet many things to tell you but you cannot beare them at this time as if these were the same things which the Apostles could not then carry we shall not therefore affront or wrong Cardinall Bellarmine if we ranke him amongst those which Augustine calleth most senslesse Hereticks seeing that hee speaketh as these hereticks imploying the same quotation to proove Romish Traditions speaking thus in the 5. Chapter of his Esse aliquas veras traditiores probatur testimonys Scripturarū Primum est Iohan. 16. Multa habeo ve●is i●er● sed non potest●● portare moda booke of the unwritten word It is prooved by testimony of Scripture that there are some true Traditions the first testimony is at the 16. of Saint Iohn I have many things to tell you c. Thus have the ancient Heretickes no want at all of Disciples CHAP. XVII An examination of the passages of Scripture whereon they found Traeditions OVr adversaries ground the authority of the Scripture upon unwritten Tradition whence it followeth if they had but reason for it that unwritten Tradition is not grounded upon the Scripture they contest therfore against themselves when they endeavour to ground Tradition upon the Scripture but let us heare their proofes In imitation of the ancient Heretickes they alledge these words of our Lord Iesus to his Apostles at the 16. of Saint Iohn verse 12. I have yet more things to tell you c. This is the passage that served the ancient He●erikes turne to proove their Traditions as Tertul. witne● f●th in his booke of Prescriptions Chap. 22. such imaginations if men would beleeve them are The succession of the Pope in the Apostleship of Saint Peter invocation of Saints service to images the power of the Pope to draw soules out of Purgatory c. And they pronounce this without any proofe save only because theirselves doe say it and the Pope will have it fo to be unto whom these Traditions are very gainefull But wee had rather beleeve in Iesus Christ who expoundeth himselfe in the same place for at the verse following he declareth to his Disciples that the spirit of truth
Communion under one kind or the Romish Indulgences no such matter it is the doctrine touching the Creation and touching the nature and office of Iesus Christ contained most cleerely in the Scripture which appeareth not only for that heerein hee skirmisheth and contendeth against the Hereticks erring in these poynts but also in that he sayth that wee ought to seeke these things by Tradition if wee have not the Scriptures acknowledging that these things are taught by the Scriptures Assuredly Irenaeus by Tradition intendeth not to speake of any addition to the Scripture but hee speaketh of the succession from hand to hand whereby the doctrine of the Gospell was trayned on to his time and in this very place speaking of certaine barbarous people that had received the Gospell by Tradition without Scripture he interpreteth the articles of this Tradition which are the articles of the Apostles Creed Also it is not amisse to have the Reader advertised that Irenaeus in these same bookes which hee hath written against the Hereticks treateth concerning Traditions not contained in the holy Scriptures which the Church of Rome approoveth not Hee teacheth that Soules separated from the bodies have Iren. lib. 2. cap. 62. Plonipimi Dominus 〈◊〉 animas characterē corporis in que etiam adaptentur custodire cundem Et cap. 63. Per hac manifestissime declaratū est et perseverare animas et nō de corpore in corpus transire et habere hominis figuram Iren. lib. 5. cap. 5. lib. 5. cap. 31. Iren. lib. 4. cap. 30. Iren. lib. 5. cap. 33. 34 35. feet and hands and a corporall figure He holdeth that the Soules issuing out of the bodies m●uut not vp to C●lestiall glory but into a terrestriall Paradise And that Before the publication of the Law no Law was given to the Fathers because they were just and the Law was not ordained for the just who had no need to be admonished by written letters But when justice was lost in Aegypt then God gave his Law unto the people The same Father teacheth that the kingdome of Iesus Christ ought to endure no longer then one thousand yeeres which is an errour of the Chiliasts and that they shall then feast themselves with delicate Wines and exqusite Viands So litle certainety there is in men as soone as they start aside from the sacred Scripture With what conscience can our adversaries Iren. lib. 2. cap. 57. Ecclesia non invocationibus Angelicts faciens aliquid sed ●●ūdè purè manifestè ●rationes dirigens ad Deminum c. alledge Irenaeus in the behalfe of Traditions seeing his are so distastfull to them Hee also condemneth Invocation of Angels and the hautinesse of Victor Bishop of Rome as Eusebius recordeth it in the 5. booke of his history chap. 25. They serve also their turnes upon the testimony of Clemens Alex to backe their Traditions Euseb in the 6. book of his Ecclesiastical history chap. 11. remembreth on● passage of him where he reportet● 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that his brothers importuned him to teach them the Traditions which he had heard by the ancien Priests But he maketh no mention whether these Traditions wer● matters not contained in the Scriptures Now the Reader may her● note upon what groundworke Papisme is bu●lt our adversaries to shoulder it up doe scrape together the most excrementall scumme of the Fathers like to the carraine-Crowes that forsake trees beautified with delicious fruit to cast themselves downe upon noy some carcasses Observe this Clement full fraught with his idle and extravagant Traditions fitting to his purpose this passage of the 1. to the Strem. lib. 5. Corinthians Wee declare Wisedome among the perfect as our adversaries Clem. Alex. Serom. lib. 1. pag. 137. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 PLurima eiusimodi habēt lib. 1. Strom. pag. 121. seq eait Comeli mana et li. 6 Idem lib. 2. Strō pa. 173. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Strom. lib. 3. pag. 193. Strom. lib. 4. pag. 217. Strom. lib. 5. pag. 252. Strom. lib. 6. pag. 270. doe in like manner Listen then to his Traditions Hee holdeth that the Greeks that is to say the Pagans were justified and saved by Phylosophy That there are foure persons in God That the Angels are fallen from their purity by their coha●itation with Women That the death of Iesus Christ did not come to passe by the will of God That afflictions doe not seize upon us through Gods will and command but that he no way hindereth it and by his simple permission That God is a body That the Apostle Saint Paul exhorted the Christians to read the bookes of the Grecians of the Sybills and of Hystaspes That Christ had foretold to the Iewes which should be converted that their sinnes should bee pardoned them within two yeeres That Christ hath preached to the Iewes which were in hell and that the Apostles also descended into hell to preach to the Gentiles to worke their conversion And in the same sixt booke of his Stromata speaking of a sage or wise man in this present life saith he is not subject to any passion or alteration and that hee is without Strom. lib 6. pag. 276. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 joy or feare or confidence to be short hee maketh him a God in the shape of man and calleth such a man a Gnosticke and will have him to bee skilled in Musicke and in the Mathematicks in Logicke and Astronomy Hee affirmeth that God Strem. lib. 6. pag. 284 hath given the Sunne and Moone to the Pagans to worship them to the end they might not bee without a Religion And speaketh of gods in the plurall as if there were many of them Are these the Traditions which our adversaries obtrude upon us to proove the insufficiency of the Scripture or if these displease them why doe they relye vpon the authority of one that relye coyneth Traditions whereof the memory should be buried for everlasting At the same time Tertullian wrote his booke de Militis Corona In the 2. chap. of the same booke hee fileth up a long list of unwritten Traditions which are that in Baptisme the Christians of his time renounced the Divell and his pompe and his Angels that they were plunged three times into the water that they tasted the miscelane or hotchpot of milke and hony that they made conscience of washing themselves seven dayes after that they participated of the Sacrament of the Eucharist in the assemblies made before day and would not receive it from any hand but of those that did preside that they made offerings so they called the gifts which the people did present for the defunct upon the day of the Nativity one day every yeere By the day of Nativity hee understandeth that day whereon the memory of Martyrs was yeerely celebrated as also whereon Off●ings were made and Almes given in memory of them Further more hee addeth the Tradi●ion wherein they accompt it a foule
sinne to fast upon the Lords day and to pray that day kneeling and the custome when they trample and walke abroad in putting on their shooes to marke themselves in the forehead with the signe of the Crosse Harū et caterarū eiusmodi disciplinarū si legem expostules Scripturarū nullam invenies Traditio tibi pratēditur austrix consuetud● confirmatrix et fides observatrix summing all vp with this saying If thou expostulate the legall condition of these disciplines and others the like thou shalt not find it Tradition is pretended to thee which increaseth them custome which confirmeth them and faith which observeth them Our Adversaries doe shrowd themselves in the protection of this last passage to establish their Traditions Yet can there not bee a more proper passage alledged to confirme the same which I have said concerning the Traditions which the Fathers have handled that they are not Doctrines of faith nor matters necessary to salvation but onely Ceremonies and Customes and Lawes of Ecclesiasticall policie which the Church of Rome hath forsaken for the most part and regardeth them no more For all the Traditions of Tertullian are but Customes and Ceremonies whereupon hee calleth them Disciplines and there is nothing therein which concerneth the Doctrine of faith or is necessary to salvation And concerning the question which he discusseth in this booke whether a Christian souldier at a day of muster when all the souldiers were crowned with a Lawrell did better in chusing rather to suffer martyrdome then to put the crowne upon his head contenting himselfe to hold it in his hand I say it is not a point of faith but an opinion wherein Tertullian had but a few to second him For the other Christians accused this souldier of temerity and to have drawne persecution upon his companions in a thing indifferent saying That there was nothing in the Scripture that obliged him to it But Tertullian defendeth the action of this souldier by Tradition When we alledge some passages of Tertullian expresse against invocation of Saints and against Transubstantiation our Adversaries on the other side alledge the words of Hierome against Helvidius I have nothing more to say of Tertullian but that he was not a man of the Church that is to say he was an Hereticke Whilst hee was Orthodoxall hee condemned Traditions as it hath formerly appeared unto us But being turned Montanist he falleth into much admiration of Traditions vouching the words of our Saviour I have yet many things to deliver to you but you cannot for the present beare them away Which is the ordinary language of ou● Adversaries Now it doth no● import us whether he hath written the booke of the souldiers crowne being an Hereticke or being yet Orthodoxall seeing the Traditions which he bundleth together touch not the Christian faith Neverthelesse it is certaine that he was then an Hereticke For in this booke he maliced and repined at the Catholikes because they taught that it was lawfull for any man to save his owne life without exposing it to martyrdome and because they rejected the prophecies of Montanus who stiled himselfe the holy Ghost Hereunto those words of Tertullian at the second chapter seeme to Plan● superest vt etiam Martyria recusare moditentur qui prophetias eiusdē Spirttus sancti respuerunt c. Nov● pastores eoru in pace leones in praelio cervos have relation It remaines that they who have rejected the prophecies of the holy Ghost doe intend to decline and refuse martyrdomes Also I know their Pastours who are Lions in peace and Harts in battle The same hath likewise beene observed by Pamelius So then these Gamesters have little reason but lesse honesty to borrow the weapons of an Hereticke There are found some other passages of Tertullian wherein by Tradition hee understandeth the Doctrine of the Gospel contained in the holy Scriptures But we willingly imbrace this Tradition To this passage of Tertullian we may compare another of Basil much alike in Chap. 27. of his booke De Spiritu Sancto where hee makes a long recapitulation of unwritten Traditions Hearken to his words Some of the precepts and lessons which the Church observeth and are preached unto us we have by written instruction some others we doe receive by way of mystery having beene conveighed unto us by the Tradition of the Apostles Both of them have like force in matter of piety and no man that hath insight be it never so l●ttle in the Ecclesiasticall Lawes will contradict it For if we will reject the un●ritten Customes as having but little vertue we shall endammage the Gospel at unawares especially in matters that are commodious and proper or rather we shall reduce preaching to a simple and bare name As for example that I may make mention of the first and most common What writing hath taught us to marke those with the signe of the Crosse who have put their trust in the name of Iesus Christ What Scripture hath taught us to turne towards the East in prayer Which is he of the Saints that hath left unto us by writing the words of the invocatiō whē the Bread of the Eucharist and Cup of benedi●tion are shewed For wee content not our selves with that whereof the Apostle or the Gospel maketh m●ntion but wee adde other things before and after as having great vertue in the mystery which we were taught by unwritten instruction But by what Scripture doe wee blesse the water of Baptisme and the oile used in the V●ction especially that wherewith we baptize Is not this a Tacite and mysticall Tradition Hee addeth the triple plunging in Baptisme and the renouncing of the devill and his angels Also the custome of standing at prayer the first day of the week and from the Paschall unto Pentecost to shew that wee are raised up againe with Christ and doe seeke the things that are above and because seven times seven dayes signifieth the eternity And to make short he inserts the beleefe in God the Father Sonne and holy Ghost amongst the Traditions saying That these unwritten things are of sembl●ble authority with the written and ma●ch them i● vertue and that the Fath●rs have covered them with silence as the more high and more venerable of p●rpose to keepe men in more awfull observance by the obscurity and that it is of these as of a most sacred place wherein onely the chiefe sacrificing Priest did enter This passage indeed doth ill accord with those excellent ones of Basil in the which he hath formerly acquainted us that all which is not of faith is sinne and that faith is by hearing of the word of God that whatsoever is without the verge of the Scrip●ure divinely inspired is not of faith and consequently is sinne and that to shew a forwardnesse in adding to the holy Scripture is a flat revolt from the faith By reason of this contrariety Beilarmine supposeth that these questions which make a part of his Aschetickes