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A19459 A briefe ansvver vnto certaine reasons by way of an apologie deliuered to the Right Reuerend Father in God, the L. Bishop of Lincolne, by Mr. Iohn Burges wherin he laboureth to prooue, that hauing heretofore subscribed foure times, and now refusing (as a thing vnlawfull) that he hath notwithstanding done lawfully in both. Written by VVilliam Couell, Doctor in Diuinitie. Covell, William, d. 1614? 1606 (1606) STC 5880; ESTC S108879 108,616 174

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lawfull first to disobey and then to forsake your calling and liue a priuate life it were lamentable that the state of our Church were such as that men to auoid the seuerity of her superstitious laws had no other safetie for their conscience but to forsake their functions we know better of her and we will hope better things of you then you should thinke or write thus CERTAINE REASONS BY VVAY OF AN Apology deliuered to the Right Reuerend Father in God the Lord Bishoppe of LINCOLNE by IOHN BVRGES Wherein hee laboureth to proue that hauing heretofore subscribed foure tymes and now refusing to subscribe as a thing vnlawfull that he hath notwithstanding done lawfully in both ¶ The Preface of the APOLOGY RIGHT Reuerend Father in God according to my promise made vnto your Lordshippe at our conuention before you on the third of October and since by Letters I now present vnto you my determinate answere and therein my refusall of such subscription as your Lordshippe and the late Canons doe require And because it will seeme strange that I should now stick at subscription who haue already foure times subscribed I craue leaue to performe vnto your Lordshipe a true and sincere report of what I haue yeelded vnto as of what I now refuse and the reasons of both And because there goe many rumors and some copies and both perhaps false of my late subscriptions I pray leaue to set downe those very words which acquired as from the King I sent by maister Deane of the Ch●ppell vnto his excellent Maiestie and the report of that which I afterward performed before my Lord of London ANSVVER THere is little hope in the sequell of this Apology to find that submission and humility which were requisite in the Ministers of Christ when one of inferiour place dare aduenture to make a determinate answere of refusal to subscribe hauing notwithstanding before subscribed and yet maintaineth that he is lawfully warranted to do both doubtlesse if it had but beene the obedience to a priuate bishoppe in his own Dyoces ought we not rather to haue yeelded thē either to haue incurred the suspicion of cōtempt or to haue hazarded by suspension the vse of our ministery But when by your confession it was that Subscription which his Lordship and the Canons did both require you giue a singuler testimonie of his Lordshippes Episcopall vigelancie and withall runne into suspition of singuler contempt vnlesse your reasons being examined do prooue good for except the inferiour Clergy be obedient to the Bishoppe and the Bishoppes to the Metropolitane there would bee saith S. Hierome as many Scismes as Priests And one of the most modest and most learned that seemeth to fauour the cause of discipline maketh it a principall poynt of the ecclesiasticall gouerment that the Inferior clergye in things honest be obedient to the Bishop and the Bishoppe to the metropolitan so that you not onlye refusing obedience in this vnto the Bishopp but violating those canons wherevnto in ther intendiment you gaue consent which doubtles being so lawfully authorised was the whole church of England by representation you had need to afford good reasons of this refusall or else to account this refusal a great sin which the rather I doubt not but your wisdome will be carefull to avoyde as being not onlye to render an account of your owne obedience but to do it being required by so humble so learned so vertuous a King who in the midst of the greatest affaires of his realme vouchsafeth in his vsuall and extraordinarye loue to his cleargie to respect you and to require your answere by their message who if they had spoken in their own names deserued verye much to haue bene reuerenced by yow APOLOGY MY Answere to his Maiesties demaunds touching the discipline Ceremonies and Subscription I doe thinke and beleeue touching the gouernment of the Church by Bishops as with vs in Englād or by ruling Elders as in other Churches of God that neither of them was prescribed by the Apostles of Christ neither of them is repugnant to the word of God but may well and profitably bee vsed if more fault bee not in the persons then in the callings themselues 2 Secondly I doe hold and am perswaded of the Crosse and Surplesse that as our Church vseth them they bee not vnlawfull though in some men and places so inexpedient as that I thinke no mans ministery likely to do so much good as some mens sodaine vse of them might doe hurt 3 Thirdly for the subscription to the Articles of 62. as the Lawe requireth it and to his Maiesties Supremacie I approue it without any exception or qualification And touching the third Article about the booke of Common Prayer and booke of Ordination doe holde that howsoeuer they haue some things in them which cannot simply bee allowed as false translations c. Yet considered in the purpose and intention of the Church of England and reduced to the propositions it publickly professeth they containe nothing contrarie to the word of God and in witnesse that this is my vnfained Iudgement in the premises I haue set to my name this second of Iuly 1604. and will be alwaies ready to professe at his Maiesties command ANSVVER I doubt not but you haue well examined what you haue here set downe and wise men in cases of this moment deale not like vnwise builders but cast their account before hand Wee heare your opinion which it pleaseth you to call your vnfained Iudgment concerning Discipline Ceremonies and Subscription matters oftentimes handled before as be also the most things set downe by you wherein we must craue pardon if we alledge our owne words euen in that which we haue been occasioned to answere in another Treatise for wisdome telleth vs that it is necessarie to sowe againe after an euill haruest seeing oftentimes that which perisheth by the barrennes of some badground is abundantly restored in the fertility of some one year that followeth In your first concerning the gouernment of the Church which you call discipline neither is it vndetermined what was prescribed by the Apostles of Christ nor what succession of Bishops was continued in all Churches euen from their time so that it must needes seeme strange that the gouernment by Elders or by Bishoppes should in your opinion be a thing so indifferent as that neither beeing prescribed by the Apostles of Christ neither of them repugnant to the word of God may wel profitably be both vsed It seemeth strāge to my vnderstanding that after so many sharpe conflictes for the discipline of the Churh after such bitter inuectiues against the authority of Bishops After so confident commendation of the gouernment by Elders maintained as onely warrantable and inioyned out of Gods word fancies wherwith ye haue filled the Church for this fifty yeares that you should now confesse neither to be cōmaunded neither to bee repugnant to Gods word What meant
are glad to see them now so earnest intreaters for reading the Scriptures in the Church seeing heretofore the most of them haue beene content for a Sermon of small edification but of great length to omit the reading of many Chapters which might haue beene done at that time so that in true vnderstanding the silencing of the Scripture was rather to be feared at their hands who desired to haue it indifferent and left free for to read it at all APOLOGY AS for the corrupt Apocripha appointed in the Calender it made to me no scruple of subscribing to the Booke with reference to the Churches intention and doctrine for besides that our doctrine was and is pure touching the dignities of the Canon the reformers of the booke professing to haue ordered that nothing should be read but eyther the pure word or that which is euidently grounded vpon the same gaue me reason to thinke that howsoeuer some vnmeet Chapters kept their old standing in the Calender yet our Churchment not to vrge the reading of them in which I was the more confirmed by that prouision which vnder the Queenes authority was published with the Homelies that the minister might exchāge any one or other lesse profitable Chap. of the old Testamēt for any of the new testament more profitable if as Doctor Abbots saith of the Canō much more of the Apocripha But now I perceiue by the Rubrick that the tale of Susanna must be read to the last verse which helps to manifest the falshood of the whole fable as Ierom calles it and I see by the order of the Canons our former liberty of exchange all ●iberty of cēsure to be repealed Now how can I su●scribe to the reading of an vncertain tale in stead of the more sure word of the Prophets which Peter biddeth vs attend and not to Iewish fables such as is that of Iudith for which no time can be found out to father it vpon And that of Tobit both which Luther as I haue heard thought to be pla●es at the first and after made st●r●es How can 〈◊〉 for instruction of Gods people read these fictions better then the popish Legends or so well as Holinsheds or Eusebius Chronicles for what ground is there for conscience to build vpon when nothing can be certainly obserued for doctrine where nothing is certainely knowne for truth Finally in the 13 of Daniell as it is vnfitly called is a repugnancy to the true story of Daniels age and beginnings of honour In the ninth of Iudith a commendation of Simeon and Leuies bloody act as ordered and blessed of God vndertaken with praier yea euen of that most outragious cruelty in which for the offēce of one they executed many innocēt harmeles persons And this womā blessed that zeale which Iacob cursed and God plagued as a rage And this exception our men tooke against Campian in the Tower So in the 7. of Tobit 3. the Angell maketh himselfe of the tribe of Nepthaly in the 12. one of the seuen Angels that offer vp the prayers of the Saints to God in both a lyar And in the latter a lying vsurper vpon that office which none but the Angell of the couenant may meddle with Now knowing that God hath no need of lyes I dare not read as a part of diuine seruice these tales in his presence and the presence of his Angels and people much lesse allow the appointing of them to be read especially obseruing how idlely wee shall tell the common people of their basenesse while yet we read them out of the Bible ANSVVER WE are glad to heare you confesse that the intention of our Church was and is pure and I hope euer shall be touching the dignitie of the Canon which in my opinion ought to haue been a strong motiue both to you and others neyther to haue dissented from the practise of the Church in reading things ancient profitable and such as were called by the fathers Scripture though not Canonicall nor to haue quarrelled with these bookes as if all that were in them were thought by vs to be of an infallible vndoubted truth we say thē first cōcerning all these bookes that neither doe wee nor any in our Church retaine them as Canonical truthes for doctrine nor of equall authoritie with the other Scriptures yet peraduenture we may giue some reasons why these things misliked by you are not of that moment that thereby they ought to be accoūted of no better authority thē Hollinsheads or Eusebius Cronicles We confes that we read by apointmēt the Historie of Susanna to the last verse but the last verse which is the greatest exceptiō to the History we read not and the Church of Rome confesseth that it ought to belong to the beginning of the foureteenth Chapter It is knowne that Africanus wrot to Saint Origen cōcerning the truth of this book but what hee wrote wee haue yet no warrant neither can Origen or S. Hierom be iustly proued to bee aduersaries to our opinion in this case for hee that is most earnest against them which was Saint Hierom affirmeth as Doctor Whitakers collecteth that this storie of Susanna of Bell and the Dragon the Hymne of the three children was commonly read in the Church of God which is al for which we desire your allowāce as a thing not new or lately inuented but auncient warrātable so practised by our Church I could willingly enter into a defence of the trueth of this History if our aduersaries of the Church of Rome were not ouer-apt to make this conclusion which is not sound that whatsoeuer was aunciently read in the Church and is true ought to bee esteemed as the Canonicall Scripture so that they frō truth cōcluding scripture we are forced against them to accuse them of some faults Whereas if confessing them to bee no canonicall Scriptures they or others would haue giuen vs leaue to read thē in the Church as profitable to manners wee could without violence haue afforded them the reconcilement of other Scriptures and vndoubtedly haue proued them to be most true But howsoeuer the Church of England requireth not the Subscription of you or of any other to warrāt the falshood and vntruth of any Iewish fable but to approoue the forme of our Liturgy so farre that those books which anciently were read in the Church or at least those parts which containe nothing contrary to faith may still retaine their auncient place in the Church for edifying of manners which was giuen them in the first and the purest times In which doubtlesse the liberty of exchange formerly left to the discretion of the minister might haue continued stil if men would haue tempered themselues from indiscret causelesse neglect of publicke order for as Saint Austin well noteth That surely he hateth his country who thinketh himself neuer well except he trauell So little obedience or loue appeareth in those men