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A89779 The temple measured: or, A brief survey of the temple mystical, which is the instituted church of Christ. Wherein are solidly and modestly discussed, most of the material questions touching the constitution and government of the visible church militant here on earth. Together with the solution of all sorts of objections which are usually framed against the model and platform of ecclesiastical polity, which is here asserted and maintained. In particular here are debated, the points of so much controversie, touching the unity of the church, the members of the church, the form of the church, and church covenant, the power of the church, the officers of the church, and their power in church-government, the power of magistrates about the church, and some church acts, as admission of members, and other things set down in the table before the book. / By James Noyes teacher of the church at Newbery in New England. Noyes, James, 1608-1656. 1646 (1646) Wing N1460; Thomason E359_12; ESTC R201171 85,622 104

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particular churches because they also are elders The twelve gates of new Jerusalem Rev. 21. are the particular churches the angels are Presbyters and are set to govern the gates the gates are not to open and shut of themselves but the angels are to open and shut the gat●s in the use of the keys The 4. beasts Ezek. 1. compared with those in Rev. 4. and the 4. orders of Levites about the Tabernacle Numb 4. may well seem to represent the elders of the Christian Church by which the Lord Christ is carried up and down to the World in the chariot of church ordinances The churches are represented by wheels which should readily follow the elders in way of obedience neither go before nor side by side together with their Elders Object The Apostles received their power immediatly from Christ Answ The same power may be derived mediatly which is derived immediatly The question is concerning the power of elders not concerning the manner of comming by it And the Apostles power was universal and extraordinary Object The Apostles wrote in the name of the church as well as in their own name Acts 15. Answ 1. The Apostles were wont to respect the Church so as to do all things in a brotherly manner 2. The Church is not named in respect of authority it had not authority over other churches and those decrees are called the decrees of the Apostles and elders Acts 16. Those elders must be supposed to be extraordinary elders else they might not be joyned with the Apostles in point of such an extent in authority 3. There was special cause to make mention of that churches consent because those questions did spring out of that church It is certain that the Apostles could determine without the church Paul had power to command and ordain 1 Cor. 16. and 1 Cor. 11. and 14. What though extraordinary elders might be the churches messengers by way of intreaty it was not by way of authority 5. The Church of Antioch sent to the Apostles and elders not to the church The Apostles and elders extraordinary were a great and standing Presbyterie of the universal Church Act. 14. I see no intention or intimation of a Synod or assembly of Churches in that act of the Apostles at Jerusalem The Apostles were onely called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as Chamier observeth Object The Apostles had an infallible spirit Answ The infallibility of spirit answers to the transcendency and universality of power in all Churches Ordinary elders have a spirit of excellency in respect of common members If the infallibility of spirit in the Apostles may admit of a limitation in respect of election why not in other acts also if they had been connatural to the power of the members 15. Arg. 15. It is sutable to the law of nature that the power of execution should be committed by the multitude to some elected and selected ones Adam had been a perpetual Monarch of the whole world according to a natural right if he had not sinned What should have deprived him of his natural titles What need of altering the natural frame of policy Bodin doth justly dispute for the ancient power of Fathers Fatherly power is the absolutest image of Gods absolute dominion and the most exact pattern of all power The natural constitution of the world yeeldeth no documents for a Democracy for a Democratical execution of power 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Homer Facile imperium in bonos Primum illud certum est si humano judicio res aestimetur nullum statum aut pagi aut vici aut urbis aut regionis aelieujus magis obnoxium esse turbis quam Democraticum Beza Ep. 83. p. 365. I conclude Let this discourse be compared with the practise of Reformed Churches of the church of Geneva and the peoples approbation or consent required by Calvin and others will amount to no more then I have acknowledged As for Cyprian he could censure yea even elect officers without the consent or counsel either of the Clerus it self If Calvin did attribute more power to the people in his writings then Beza yet their practise doth argue an accord in conclusion And Calvin in his Catechisme and in a Tractate de Coena Domini attributes power of dispensing censures without the consent of the church unto the elders Object Matth. 18. We are bid tell the church and the church is no where taken for the Presbyterie in the new Testament Answ 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is used for any assembly in the new Testament Acts 19.39 and therefore is applicable to an assembly of elders even according to its use in the new Testament 2. See Calvin Instit l. 4. c. s 3.4.7 The Presbyterie is called the congregation or church in the old Testament Namb. 35. with Deut. 19.12 Mr. Ainsworth and Mr. Cartwright have abundantly proved this point and Mr. Cartwright alledgeth many places of Scripture to shew that church in this place signifieth the Presbyterie Mr. Rutherford affirmeth the congregation in the old Testament is alwaies taken for the Presbyterie when it is meant of an authoritative congregation Our Saviour may well be supposed to conform his speech to the old Testament rather then to the new Testament to the use of the phrase at that time when he spake not so much to the future use of it in the new Testament 3. Our Saviour doth manifestly allude to the Presbyteries of the Jewes and gives the Christian church a pattern from the practise of the Jewish church One would not think that our Saviour should speak of an unknown church and not describe it because he directs the disciples to repair to it to direct one to a place unknown and unknowable is but labour in vain Besides those phrases heathen and publican and two or three witnesses do argue that our Saviour referred his speech to the Jewish church Two or three witnesses were required by a State rule in their civil Judicature and it was grounded upon morality and therefore to be observed in their Ecclesiastick proceedings to censure They might not have found out such a rule though naturally moral by the reach of natural light but being instructed by Gods Ordinance they could easily discern the morality thereof especially the Prophets and men of God which were raised up continually amongst them 4. The church is here explicated in the next words What you shall bind shall be bound in heaven If the church had been taken for the body of members it should in probability have run thus What it shall bind shall be bound in heeven 5. Else this rule did nothing concern the Apostles considered personally but they were personally to practise themselves according to this rule The Apostles were neither to judge together with such a church nor to be judged by such a church as consisted of the body of members 6. Is it likely that our Saviour should bid a brother repair in the first place to the body of
members What do the elders then serve for 6. The promise to two or three doth somewhat declare what church is here meant The former words What you shall bind c. seem to be referred to the Apostles then present these words Where two or three are gathered together in my name c. seem to be referred to ordinary elders which were to follow And these two or three elders may justly be supposed to be an ordinary Presbyterie and they are proportionate to the two or three elders which constituted Presbyteries in the lesser cities of Israel The two or three here intended are not the same with the two or three witnesses before mentioned 1. Such a private proceeding doth not constantly admit of prayer 2. Christs presence in the midst of them argueth a more solemn assembly then that of the witnesses 3. So solemn a promise intimateth some great difficulty in the act to which it is applyed 4. Our Saviour hath manifest reference to such as did bind and loose in the words going before 5. It is spoken in conformity to a church then erected and to the proceedings then accustomed The intent of the promise argueth a greater latitude then is competible to that particular case of conviction I might now charge the multitude of Incerpreters both ancient and modern but it is done already by others It is most probable that the Synedrion of Elders was called the Congregation because there was wont to be an assembly of people present in the place and at the time of Judicature we call the Presbyterie the representative church upon another consideration A second general answer may be this the church is sometimes destitute of Elders and then a Church properly so taken is to be repaired unto immediatly And our Saviour may lay down the rule so as that it may serve for all times and all conditions of the Church Object The Apostle bids the whole church of Corinth to excommunicate the incestuous person and also all the Thessalonians to mark a brother that walketh disorderly and to withdraw from him 1 Cor. 5. Answ 1. Women have no judicial power though the Apostle writes to all therefore other members may not have judicial power though the Apostle writes to all Such speeches must be interpreted quoad materiam subjectam And if women notwithstanding this place of the Apostle must be denied judicial and co-ordinate authority or power or consent because other texts do so require why should not other common members also not withstanding this place of the Apostle be denied the like authority power or consent if other texts do require it If there be any authority in Councels and Synods then the consent of the major part of members shall not be necessary in many great acts which concern all because it is impossible for all churches to convene in their particular persons The Apostle wrote to the elders as well as to the members Rom. 12 8. 1 Peter 5.1 1 Corinthians 1.11 and therefore it is to be supposed that the elders were especially if not wholy respecter by the Apostle in such instructions and commandements 1 Corinthians 14. All are exhorted to see that all things be done decently and in order but this is especially if not onely in point of immediate execution the elders care and office Elders are not onely the members orators or such as we call moderators and prolocutors to govern the actions and not the persons of the assembly Morellius his phantasme as one calleth it who writes strongly for the power of members hath been generally condemned especially by French churches in their Synods Though common members were not equal agents with the elders in excommunications and yet the Apostle doth not here undertake to declare in what order they should concurr 2. The church of Corinth was now to obey the Apostles sentence and did but put the Apostles sentence with due and effectual solemnities in execution The spirit of the Apostle doth denote his Apostolical spirit both of direction and correction To direct with judicial authority is to command with coactive power The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 argueth more then a doctrinal determination What spirit should be present at the instant of excommunication but his spirit of Apostolical inspection or authority Spirit here is to be interpreted quoad materiam subjectam truth is the Church of Corinth according to the original is not made the nominative case to the act of delivering up to Sathan only it is required that it be done when the church is gathered together The Apostle then did excommunicate virtually and praeceptivè Cartw. reply p. 67. the church of Corinth obedientialiter Mr. Cartwright and others do consent to this assertion 3. It is apparent that the Apostles were wont to write so much to the whole church because the common members had special need to be instructed and incited to the performance of their duty and in particular to the submitting of themselves to their elders 4. We grant that the common members have something to do in many church acts and especially in excommunications they are to put the sentence of the elders in execution in declining from the parties censured What the Apostle attributes unto the whole church any where is abundantly exhausted and satisfied in the Churches doing of execution Moses applieth the phrase of casting out or putting away the evil one to the peoples doing of execution Deut. 17.7 See Ainsworth on the place Moses frequently applies the act of judging killing c. to all Israel though they did what they did chiefly by their Magistrates Deut. 13.5.9 c. We do farther grant that the common members have a sudordinate power of judgement though not a co-ordinate power A brother is under a power judicial of the body of members but the body of members are under the judicial power of the elders themselves 1 Thes 5.12 Heb. 13.17 The Saints are brought in as judging the world 1 Cor. 6.3 and they have a judicial power over the sinful world but it is subordinate and they must judge dependently under Christ The woman is brought in prophesying and praying in the Congregation but she must prophesie and pray in the church by no power formally but onely by participation Joshua giveth the sentence against Achan and all Israel stoneth him with stones and burneth him with fire thus all Israel must stone and burn the Achans of the Church with the judgements of God denounced against them in Gods fiery law by the ministery The Priests must blesse and curse at the entrance into Canaan and all Israel are to say Amen Deut. 27.14 The living creatures Ezek. 1. and Rev. 4. are to cry holy holy holy and the Elders fall down and worship and say Amen The Saints shall judge the world under Christ and yet have not cause to expect so much as a consultative power together with Christ All in Israel were to observe a due distance by measure from the Priests and
naturally a negative voice in point of election but they cannot compleatly elect any Officer without the consent of the people That act which doth give authority is an act of authority the peoples consent in election doth give authority The assumption is thus proved That which doth compleat the authoritative act of the Elders or which doth adde authority to the Elders act that act doth give authority but the consent of the people doth at least compleat the act or adde authority to the act of the Elders in election 5. Either Election or Ordination alone or both together do give the Keys not Ordination alone therefore Election doth give the Keys either in toto or ex parte In Rome it was wont to be said that authoritas was in Magistratu Potestas in plebe Majestas in populo 6. Ordination doth not give the Keys essentially therefore Election doth give the Keys 1. It appears from the nature of Ordination Ordination is but a solemn declaration and confirmation of a person in Office Ordinatio est testificatio complementum electionis 2. The body of members gave the Keys essentially to their proper Officers in the resurrection and restitution of the church out of Antichristianism There is no sufficient testimony of their immediate call and the church of Rome had lost its power 3. Election is not onely a signe of Office then an officer should be an officer before he be elected and before he be ordained also because Ordination was wont to follow Election 4. The Priests and Levites were essentially Officers before they were ordained Ordination was but a circumstance to the hereditary right of the Levitical tribe 5. The fathers and masters of families were Priests before the Law essentially and absolutely without any Ordination The ceremonial Ordination under the Law is abrogated and Ordination under the Gospel is onely moral and a complement of Election Doctor Ames compareth Ordination to the coronation of Princes and inauguration of Magistrates in his Bellar. Ener 6. Election in other Societies doth give the authority The gift of edification faculty or aptitude is presupposed to Election the authority or Office is conferred by Election by Election sufficienter by Ordination abundanter Reformed churches have attributed liberty to the people in point of Election for the general Polanus saith that an Elder is ordained in the name of the church Object Election is but an act of subjection Answ Such an act of subjection transmitteth that power which the church had formerly within it self unto the Officers and therefore giveth authority unto the Officers Every one that is sui juris or so far as any one is sui juri he is so far indued with authority within himself and therefore a servant giveth authority to his master a servant I say giveth a master authority over himself by putting himself under his masters authority and by giving over to his master that authority which he had over himself while he was free Object The members have not sole power of Election where there are Officers Answ The power of Election is primitively in the body of members though secondarily there be a negative and an authoritative voice in the Elders as Elders The common members are not meet Organs to ordain their Officers Pro. 3. 1. Common members have not co-ordinate power to act with their Officers but Officers elected are essentially Officers in respect of them at least An Elder elect is supposed fittest to preach and pray for preparation unto his own ordination 2. Ordination includes prayer as a part thereof and the Elder elect is fitter to pray then the common members 3. Ordination includes a blessing and this blessing supposeth a meliority in order Heb. 7. The Officers are to blesse the people and not the people the Officers in way of church-order 4. Ordination is an act of consecration Numb 8. but the Officers are to consecrate the people not the people the Officers Such as have been sent in way of special office have been onely found to send others in point of Ordination both in the old and new Testament The Fathers have observed it so Religiously as to appropriate Ordination to the Bishop The church is greater then its officers in point of priority and finality and dignity but the Officer are greater in authority and power of execution Christiani sumus propter nos Augustine Pastores sumus propter vos 5. The Apostles and extraordinary Elders would never have taken ordination out of the peoples hands if it had belonged to them because they did not deprive them of the power of election Object In case of general Apostacies there can be no ordinary way of ordination Answ In case no Elders can be acquired election doth suffice The members do give power immediately of acting some Ordinances The members have formally some power to teach and the commission of Christ giveth them power to baptize which have the power of office to teach Matth. 28.19 The church of common members have not formally and actually power to administer the Seals but it hath power efficiently and virtually The Sun giveth life though it hath no potentia proxima of life the foul hath power to see virtually because it hath power to frame its organs and convey power to them so the members have power to set up Officers and to convey power to them for the administration of the Seals and thus qui possidet dispensat 2. God in extraordinary passages of providence did ordain the Apostles Moses ordained Aaron but who ordained Moses Ordination is not essential we may not make ordination with Scotus and Franciscus a Sacrament Ordination is not so necessary to a Minister as the Sacrament to a christian and yet a christian is a christian though he never partake of a Sacrament The Papists themselves hold it sufficient to be baptized in voto Object The people of Israel are said to anoint Solomon 1 Chron. 20.22 Answ It s evident that they anointed him by some sacred person even as they did Zadoc the Priest not immediatly but by some Nathan c. Object Members may elect which is the greater therefore they may ordain which is the lesser Answ Ordination is an act of order as well as of jurisdiction Some Papists place the essence of Ordination in that form of words Be thou a Priest Where shall we finde the very form of Ordination in the Scriptures We conceive that it consisteth in Solemnities connatural to the confirmation of Election and prayer and blessing which are acts of order are acts of Ordination Those that can do the greater may not do the lesser unlesse it be of the same kinde Object The Levites were ordained by the hands of the congregation Answ 1. Upon the same ground the members should now ordain and their proper Elders stand by 2. The Levites were ordained by Aaron and the Priests Numb 8.3 Imposition of hands by the congregation was proper to the ceremonial offering of the
Levites as a Sacrifice to God Exod. 29.13 not to our moral separating of Officers under the Gospel That act of Imposition doth rather import somthing of Election then of Ordination as we may shew in another question Calvins opinion is that Ordination ought to be administred by Elders praesse etium electioni debere alios pastores Doctor Ames granteth to Bellar. Instit lib. 4. cap. 3. that it is the doctrine of the reformed church that Ordination is an act of the Elders except in case of a general Apostacie Bellar. Ener de vocations Clericorum Election is an essential application of authority in the way of Jurisdiction Ordination is a circumstantial application of authority sutable to the power of Order and Office Election is an act of essential Jurisdiction Ordination is proper to official power and jurisdiction The least Ordinances in point of exemption are proper to the Officers as the greatest persons in respect of executive power The Keys of natural power of of general Office are in the members the Keys of instituted power or of Office in special in the Elders I might distinguish thus The Keys of natural power are in the body of members the Keys of Office in the Elders Concerning the Officers of the Church A Bishop and Presbyter are the same in point of power Pro. 1. both of Order and Jurisdiction both intensively and extensively 1. The Lording or Magistratical power is prohibited all Presbyters for what is allowed in Magistrates is disallowed in Ministers Luke 22.25 26. The Apostle Peter interpreteth the words of our Savour 1 Pet. 5.3 2. All Elders or Presbyters of Churches are equally styled Bishops in Scripture Acts 20. Phil. 3. Tit. 1. 1 Tim. 3. And those which have wholly the same Titles have the same Office 3. All Presbyters have equally the flock of Christ with them Act. 20. Cyprian might have said of Presbyters and Bishops together what he said of Bishops in his own sense Episcopatus est unus cujus pars in sclidum tenetur a singulis The Apostle made many Bishops in one Congregation but not one Bishop for many Congregations The Word of God is far from allowing teaching Elders to be onely ruling Bishops to rule by themselves and teach by others Personal qualifications must be personally executed and teaching Elders are the excelling Bishops The office of Bishops is a Ministery not onely a dignity therefore he that hath the title must do the work 1 Tim. 5.17 4. The Office of Diocesans is both formally and efficiently Antichristian Grant a Primate of England and why not of the whole world Gregory justly called John of Constantinople The forerunner of Antichrist 5. In other Orders there was no precedency instituted by the Lord Christ No arch-Arch-Apostle no Arch-Evangelist no Arch-Presbyter or Arch-Bishop In the Temple the High-priest was a type of Christ the sons of the High priest were types of Presbyters and they were equal in the matter of their Office This Proposition according to Jeromes assertion had place of great authority amongst the Papists themselves until the Councel of Trent It hath been witnessed unto by the Fathers anciently The invented Orders of the Papists have been some of the plagues of the Antichristian Egypt The praedicant Orders of Antichrist are like to the clamorous Froggs the mendicant Friars or manducant Friars as Buchanan hath it are like to the creeping Lice the plague of Egypt of the Church and of the world This Proposition is abundantly elaborated by many Some Theologes opposed the superiority of Bishops as maintained to be Jure divino in the Councel of Trent the Cardinals opposed it also though for their own sakes It is an extraordinary judgement of God that so many Christian Princes and Kingdoms do suffer the Papal bondage all this while Nome populus as one said diutius ex conditione esse potest cujus eum poeniteat Object Timothy and Titus are made Diocesan Bishops by the Postscripts of those Epistles which are written to them Answ The Postscripts are proved to be Apocrypha by Beza and others When Paul saloteth the Elders of Ephesus Act. 20 he owneth Archbishop there but equally saluteth them all Besides Timoshy his course was ambulatory and he is called an Evangelist 2 Tim. 1.4 ● Titus was in the same rank with Timothy As for the Angels of the seven Churches in the Revelation they were Angels but of so many Congregations and do represent all the Elders of those Churches No Diocesan can be made to appear in the three next centuries after the Lord Christ The Angels are not called Archangels The seven stars the four beasts are all the Elders of all the Churches not onely seven or four The two Witnesses Revel 11 do represent all the witnesses of Truth The singular is frequently read for the plural All Bishops or Presbyters are both Pastors and Teachers Pro. 2. Pastors and Teachers are not distinct Officers 1. All the Priests under the High-priest all the fons of Aaron had the same Function or Office in the Temple There was not one a teaching Priest another an exhorting Priest a third a ruling Priest as if one Presbyter should be a teaching Bishop another an exhorting Bishop a third a ruling Bishop 2. The Apostle assigneth the title of Pastor and Teacher to the same Office Ephes 4. Some are Apostles some Prophets Jer. 5.15 some Evangelists some according to the Apostle Pastors and Teachers which is as much as both Pastors and Teachers It is supposed by some that the Apostle used and for some as if the copulative and were disjunctive in this place and the meaning of the Apostle this Some Pastors some Teachers But the Apostle doth not speak after such a manner as to insinuate any such interpretation he doth not so much as say And Pastors and Teachers onely Some Pastors and Teachers There is no parallel in all the Scripture which will prove that and loth stand for some 3. Pastors do not any where denote such as had the gift of exhortation most eminently but rather such as had the gift or office of Government both in the Old and New Testament 4. Teachers are properly before Pastors in order as they are taken for exhorters exhortations are dependent applications of Doctrines The Apostle placeth teaching before exhorting 2 Tim. 13.16 Tit. 1.9 5. All Bishops are called both to teach and exhort Tit. 1.9 Every Bishop saith the Apostle must exhort with wholesome doctrine 6. Pastors are sometimes described onely by the administration of teaching Go make disciples teaching them Matth. 28.19 20. A Bishop must be apt to teach 1 Tim. 3. The distinct gifts of teaching and exhorting do denominate some teachers and some exhorters rather then some Pastors and some Teachers 7. The Office of Bishops or Presbyters is made sometimes to consist onely in feeding as if all were Pastors Paul biddeth all the Elders feed the flock of Christ Acts 20. Peter speaketh in like manner 1
Priests office to take down the tent and tabernacle and accordingly it is onely the Elders office to preach ordinarily the doctrine of the Gospel the doctrine of humiliation and mortification to make way for the Churches progresse in the wildernesse Object The Princes are sent to teach 2 Chron. 17.7 Answ Piscator supposeth that the Princes did onely promove the Levites in teaching The Hebrew word doth signifie to make to learn whether by ones self or others 2. Magistrates have power to teach in the Common-wealth ordinarily though not as Prophets in the Church We may shut up all The Church is the golden Candlestick but the spirit of the Elders is the shining and burning light therein and the two Olive-branches thereof Zech. 4.2 Ezek. 7.20 The Church is the hangings of the Temple The Elders are the pillars on which the hangings did depend Concerning the Power of the Presbyterie THe Presbyterie is to govern with great condescendencie Prop. 1. and to labour for the consent of the Church in cases of moment Magistrates themselves are called Pastors and Fathers partly because they ought to be mild as Causabon and others have observed in the execution of their power Pastors should carry lambs in their bosomes Isa 40. Magistratical Soveraignty of spirit Luke 22. 1 Pet 5. is intolerable in Ministers of the Church It is better to be the Bride then the Bridegrooms friend Abrahams servant must intreat Rebeckah with kindnesse with bracelets and jewels and carry her to his master with honour The Priests were charged to take down the Tabernacle and the Levites to bear it with great respect and the Tabernacle was a type of the Church Our Solomon will have his mother to be set at his right hand in a chair of State Rev. 3. 4. 20. The four and twenty Elders have all thrones and crowns as Christians Cyprian ad Cl●rum nihil sine vestro consilio plebi consensu Lib. 3. Ep. 10. l 4. Ep 5. l. 3. Ep. 22. l. ● Ep. 10. l. 5. Ep. 7. though not as Ecclesiastick Governours Cyprian seemeth sometimes to tender thus much respect to the common members or body of the Church as when he saith Vobis praesentibus judicautibus but not a word of suffrage in antiquity except in point of Election And Cyprian is bold to write after this manner hortor mando as to subjects The Apostle is bold to threaten the rod to the Corinthians Shall I come unto you with a rod 1 Cor. 4 21. The more authority is conferred upon Elders the more humble have they need to be Caesari cui omnia licent propter hoc minus licet I suppose the power of Jurisdiction doth originally and essentially reside in the body of members Elders have their power either by Election or Ordination because there is no other ordinary mean of vocation Election is necessary even from the people because they are to subject themselves or withdraw according as Elders preach for Christ or against Christ and therefore the peoples election doth incompleatly at least give the keys We affirm that the power of Presbyters doth not essentially depend on Ordination but on Election The people have power to act yea even to administer the Seals virtually and mediately and give power by Election to the Elders Election is now answerable to the hereditary vocation under the Law and the Ceremonial Ordination was but circumstantial to the hereditary right of the Levi●es Election in all Societies doth substantially or essentially derive power and correspondeth to an hereditary derivation of power * Ep. 65. p. 285. 67. p. 289. 13. p 365. Beza is onely for an implicite consent of the people and that onely in Election The French Synods have condemned Morellius his Democracie and established the next Proposition The commom members are not to govern by suffrage and co-ordinate authority together with their Elders Pro. 2. Prudence and brotherly love require an endeavour in the Elders for the procuring of consent from all Confessus seniorum est judicium Reclesiae Calv. Instis l. 4 c. 12. Sect 3. but consent is not absolutely necessary The consent of the people is not authoritative but consultative in respect of the Elders Praeter electionem ministrorum plebis nullas esse partes in Ecclesiastico regimine censemus so Chamier 1. Arg. 1. If the Presbytery be not invested with the power of Jurisdiction then the Presbytery serves but for order Cyprian by himself or his 〈◊〉 by it self either in consult a pl●●e did binde and loose censure and absolve the lapset though he speaks of the consensus plebis at such times Presbyters are but Prolocutors every members is essentially and substantially a Governour as well as an Elder 2. Arg. 2. If the Elders are not to baptize and administer the Seals but at the appointment of the Church in particular then they have not compleat power of order because they have not compleat power to execute their proper acts which belong to the power of order 3. The ministerial Keys or the Keys of execution were given to Peter as an Apostle Matth. 16.18 19. They may be given to Peter before he was an Apostle quoad promissionem after he was an Apostle quoad confirmationem when he was made an Apostle Arg. 3. quoad constitutionem 1. Peter is here made oeconomus Ecclesiae the keys of the Kingdom are given to Peter and kingdom includes the Church Peter is evidently distinguished from the Church therefore he doth not represent the Church On this rock saith the Lord Christ will I build my Church and unto thee will I give the keys he doth not say Vnto it as meaning the Church out Vnto thee meaning Peter and distinguishing Peter from the Church Object If it be objected that the Keys are not given to the Church here mentioned because it is the universal Church Answ I reply 1. The universal Church may as well be made the subject as the object of the Keys as it is the object in particular visible Churches so it may be the subject also 2. It may as well be made the subject of the Keys as of the visible Officers 1 Cor. 12.28 3. Is it probable that Pote● should represent any other Church then that which is expressed in the Text 4. I suppose it hath been already proved that there is an universal visible Church Secondly Peters confession argueth that this promise was made unto Peters person in way of reward 3. Peter is made a principal stone of the Church a secondary foundation a master-builder The doctrine of the Apostles is called a foundation of the Church Eph. 2.20 Rev. 11. the twelve Apostles are twelve sundamental stones of New Jerusalem Peter was named so with reference to his Ministery One and the same rule is not sutable to Peter as an Apostolical stone and as a Christian stone also Christ is the Rock Peter a stone
Christ the matter or object of Peters confession is the Roc●●● not the Confession it self The doctrine of the Apostles is a secondary foundation Ephes 2. and Christ in the doctrine of the Gospel is the fundamental Rock The Confession is not the Rock because the Rock is an antecedent to the Church but faith or confession is a concomitant That which is revealed to Peter is Christ in the doctrine or matter of confession and upon this is the Church to be built The foundation is homogeneous to the first essentials of the building visible confession is an accident to the Church as mystical 5. The Apostles had the power of the keys immediately from Christ and where if not in such explicite passages as these are 6. Let one place be found where one of the Apostles alone is brought in as representing the common members I cannot finde Peter or any one of the Apostles so much as to represent the other Apostles when our Saviour speaks to them When Peter speaks in the name of all the Apostles Joh. 6. and Matth. 19.28 Christ speaks to all in the plural number not to Peter onely It is questionable whether Peter did intend to speak in the name of all in this place and it is as questionable whether our Saviour intended all directly in speaking to Peter 7. What is there in that Text to argue that Peter is here representative both as a member in common and also as an Apostle Apostolical power and Church-power cannot be conveyed in the same expressions tum quoad praedicatum subjectum * If Christ had said Thou art Peter both a common member an Apostle and unto thee will I give the keys then there had been reason to have conceived that the keys had contained both Church-power and Apostolical power but the Text doth not so speak Augustine seemeth sometimes to apprehend that Peter did represent all Christians but Doctor Reynolds hath observed that he affirmeth that Peter received the Apostolical Office here Personam omnium Apostolorum gerentem in Johan Tractat. 118. It is evident that Augustine did not make the body of members the subject of executive power Object Peter doth at least represent the Apostles and their successors Answ 1. The Keys may be given onely to Peter directly here because they were in Peter wholly and the other Apostles were not spoken unto All power of execution is virtually in every Apostle One Apostle hath as much power in case there be but one as all together One Elder hath not a divided power where there are more then one to constitute a Presbyterie Arg. 4. 2. The Keys were given to all the Apostles by consequence though not in the way of representation 3. If Peter did now receive the Keys Apostolical then he could not represent the common Presbyters The same rule in the same expressions cannot confer such a different power as the power of common elders and the power Apostolical the Text and the parallels do not admit of any such representation The Apostles could not possibly represent the Church Matth. 18. They are distinguished from the Church which they are sent to gather The Church gathered is the object of the Ministery of those that are sent They are to teach them after that they have baptized The Apostles could not possibly represent the Church Matth. 18. They are distinguished from the Church which they are sent to gather The Church gathered is the object of the Ministery of those that are sene They are to teach them after that they have baptized them 2. They have power of office or actual power to baptize 3. They are bid Ga up and down to teach all Nations This place is thus far parallel to Matth. 16 and confirmeth the interpretavion precedent But our Saviour here intendeth this commission even to the successors of the Apostles I am with you saith he to the end of the World In all congruity our Saviour understands by you such as you are such as are indued with authority to teach and baptize as well as you onely the commission is to be interpreted quoad materiam subjectam and therefore the Apostolical commission is not exactly quadrato to the common Elders The promise of Christs presence tended to the encouragement of the Apostles and their successors in the work of the Ministery about which they were now sent and that power which is given to the Apostles here is given to all Elders as far as Scripture may permit 5. Elders have as full power to baptize as to teach Arg. 5. according to this Text and by consequence they have full power to admit members Full power to baptize upon making a disciple without any intervening act of the Church doth argue full power to admit because admission is not a consequent of Baptism 6. If all members young and old children and men Arg. 6. if thousands together must judge and govern upon conscience together with the Presbyterie 1. It must needs interrupt the work 2. It is work enough a double labour for the Elders to instruct the Church how to judge There is more time spent in informing the Church then in determining the case The members will make the keys flite about their Blders ears if they have them Must Elders hold the hands of the common members as the master teacheth Scholars to write and act onely by them 3. Pride is an epidemical discase in Democratical Government Who is sufficient to hold the reins of authority Where there are no standing Magistrates in the Common-wealth and in the Church no Governours at all or none but Governours the off-spring is like to be an Iehabed 4. Confusion and disorder is inevitable Turba ruunt The Church ought to be a patern of punctual order A Democracie is called by Plato Nundi●ae populares 5. As Church-work must needs be too long a doing by so many when it is casie so it must needs be done too soon by such as are precipitant when it is difficult Some are conscientious and scrupulous others unseasoned ignoran youthful This is a Pedocracy as well as a Democracy The seat of Government is the seat of Wisedom 7. Arg. 7. It is naturally in the power of the Presbyterie to admonish the whole church to suspend the whole church in respect of the seals 1 Thes 5.12 It is intoletable that many whole churches should convene and act ●on●●nctim especially for all offences Arg. 8. otherwise they might be active in administring to those which are known to be unworthy This power containeth more then a negative reference to their elders The church and its elders are not co-ordinate societies in respect of ordinary execution In Israel there was Soveraignty in the Magistrates or Princes Amongst the Romans Imperium was in magistratu Majestas in populo 8. It is granted that Elders have full power in respect of some acts of jurisdiction elders may send to or speak to one another for a