Selected quad for the lemma: authority_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
authority_n	apostle_n	church_n	particular_a	2,274	5	6.8998	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A93887	Zerubbabel to Sanballat and Tobiah: or, The first part of the duply to M.S. alias Two brethren. By Adam Steuart. Whereunto is added, the judgement of the reformed churches of France, Switzerland, Geneva, &c. concerning independants, who condemne them with an unanimous consent. Published by David Steuart. March 17. 1644. Imprimatur Ja: Cranford.; Duply to M.S. alias Two brethren. Part 1	Steuart, Adam.; Steuart, David, fl. 1644.	1645 (1645)	Wing S5494; Thomason E274_14; ESTC R209896	100,836	110

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or_o it_o may_v belong_v to_o the_o whole_a body_n but_o not_o whole_o but_o to_o every_o part_n according_a to_o the_o exigence_n thereof_o ob._n they_o say_v that_o 1_o cor._n 5._o and_o 2_o cor._n 2._o the_o apostle_n command_v all_o the_o people_n to_o excommunicate_v the_o incestuous_a man_n when_o they_o be_v gather_v together_o and_o after_o his_o repentance_n to_o receive_v he_o to_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n again_o a._n we_o deny_v that_o the_o apostle_n give_v any_o such_o power_n to_o the_o people_n or_o promiscuous_a multitude_n by_o that_o passage_n but_o only_o to_o church-officer_n that_o represent_v the_o church_n inst_z but_o they_o prove_v it_o on_o this_o manner_n they_o among_o who_o the_o fornicator_n be_v that_o be_v puff_v up_o when_o they_o shall_v have_v sorrow_v and_o from_o out_o of_o the_o midst_n of_o who_o he_o be_v to_o be_v put_v who_o have_v do_v that_o thing_n item_n they_o who_o have_v to_o purge_v out_o the_o old_a leaven_n that_o be_v not_o 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