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A89229 Gangrænachrestum, or A plaister to alay the tumor, and prevent the spreading of a pernitious vlcer, like to have grown upon, and putrified the good report of Jo. Maddocks, and Henry Pinnell. Made up of a true relation (wherein the faults of the former impression by Master Edwards are revised, corrected, and amended) concerning some passages at Pool. / By the abused parties I.M. and H.P. Maddocks, John.; Pinnell, Henry. 1646 (1646) Wing M246; Thomason E353_12; ESTC R201080 22,021 31

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the Church it being the spirituall disposition in a Saint to rejoyce in the increase that is of God though in another Two Objections were made against the premises 1. Object That by Prophets is there meant onely Ministers in Office and that the word all hath reference only to Prophets so taken To this the Answer is three folde 1. That were superfluous for it was never questioned whether men in Officiall authority might exercise their guifts 2. If only those are there meant then of necessity there must be at least 5 or 6 prophets or ministers in Office in one Church for the Apostle speakes of such a particular Church as might come together the whole Church at one time and in one place there might three speake and there must be others the rest to judge against which is the practise of the objections who rather would have one officer to two Churches speaking at will as an infallible Oratour or divine Oracle and none must judge so that if it be so they have at least changed the Ordinances c. 3. The Apostle layeth downe the restriction 34 35. verses to be onely of women which must be in opposition to men not to prophets let your women keepe silence in the Churches for it is not permitted unto them to speake implying clearely that it is permitted to men and no shame for any but women to speake in the Church 2. Second Objection was that this would breed a great confusion for all to speake Answ 1. all cannot speake because all are not gifted 2. If all could and were so gifted yet the Ordinance of God breedes no confusion or as the Holy Ghost answereth the objection 32 33. verses God is not the author of confusion but of peace as it all Churches of the Saints and the spirits of the Prophets are Subject to the Prophets that is I conceive one will not confusedly contend with another but freely give way to those that are most able for the Churches edification according to that rule in the 26. verse Lor all things be done to edifying Againe though all have liberty and may seasonably and without confusion speake or prephecie it doth not therefore necessarily follow that every member must speake something every time that the Church it come together such a conceipt were absurd all things must be done to edification Thus for answer to those two objections then observe farther that in the 37. verse the Apostle layeth downe this only as necessarie to a man that thinks himselfe a prophet or Spirituall let him saith he acknowledge the things which I write unto you to be the commandements of the Lord let him be rightly principled in the doctrine of the Gospell and in the 39.40 verses he concludes thus wherefore brethren covet to prophecy and forbid not to speake with tongues hinder not the exercise of any guilt which God hath given to the Church Yet in the 40. verse let all be done decently and in order so that all the gifts given to the Church may be used in the Church without confusion the spirits of the Prophets being subject to the Prophets verse 31 32 33. But if any man saith he be ignorant let him be ignorant verse 28. 2 Argument in drawne from the example of the Saints in Scripture 8 Acts 4.11 ch 19.20 8 chap. ● verse note that all were feattered except the Apostles and 4 verse they that were scattered went every where preaching the word So 11 chap 19 20. they that were scattered upon the persecution that arose about Stephen some were men of Ciprus c. preached the Lord Jesus both to Iewes and Grecians 21 verse the hand of the Lord was with them and a great number beleived and turned unto the Lord and in 22 verse when tidings came to the Church at Jerusalem they sent Barnah as to assist them who when he was come and had seene the grace of God was glad and exhorted them c. he never questioned their call to it so in the 1 Phil. 14 15. Paul speaking of his bonds and the things happened to him that they were fallen out to the suttherance of the Gospell he saith in the 14 verse that many of the brethren in the Lord which is the denomination of every member waning confident by his bonds were much more bold to speake the word without feare and in 15 16 17 18. some he saith did preach Christ out of envy and strife supposing to adde afflictions to his bonds yet he rejoiced that Christ was preached by them though it be altogether improbable that they would ordeine such to office whose intentions were to adde afflictions to Paul's bonds for we find them very carefull of ordeining any that were not soundly tried and Paul charging Timothy to lay hands suddainly on no man not doe I remember mention or complaint made of any such Officers in any of the Churches at that time Another proofe is in the 18 Acts 24.5 6 7 8. where we find that Apollos was instructed onely in the baptisme of John therefore not in the least measure probable to be called to office in the Church by any of the Apostles when so ignorant of the way of God and the Churches walkings yet he taught diligently the things of the Lord and spake boldly in the Synagogue and after onely a more full information in the way of God by Aquila and Priscilla he mightily helped those that had believed through grace convincing the Iewes and that publickely that Jesus was Christ 3 Argument is drawne from the nature of faith it selfe which is to speake what it hath seene and heard so the Apostles Peper and John argued 4 Acts 20. being threatned by the Councell and Preists and charged to speake no more in the name of the Lord Jesus the reason which they gave why they must speake was not drawne from any officiall authority but from the working nature of faith in them we cannot say they but speake the things which we have seene and heard And in the 116 Psal 10. I did believe saith David therefore have I spoken So in the 66 Psal 26. being experienced in the mercy of God delivering him as he saith in another place the word did 〈◊〉 in his breast so here he could not reserve in his owne breast what God had done for him Come hither saith he all ye that feare the Lord I will tell you what he hath done for my soule So in the 32 Psal 4.5 I acknowledged my transgression saith he and thou forgavest my iniquity well in the 5 verse For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when thou mayest be found implying that he would not be silent but spread Gods name of pardoning iniquity transgression and sinne which he had experience of as an encouragement to others to expect the same which he had found so 40 Psal 8 9 10. and in the 23 Jer. the Lord condemnes them as false Prophets that speake when