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overthrow_v by_o it_o to_o β_n β._n β._fw-la to_o β._fw-la β._fw-la see_v before_o §_o 204._o the_o contrary_a declare_v by_o soave_fw-it this_o brief_o here_o to_o the_o protestant_a objection_n the_o satisfaction_n of_o which_o have_v be_v more_o large_o prosecute_v through_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o former_a discourse_n and_o thus_o through_o many_o obstacle_n i_o have_v at_o length_n finish_v my_o design_n the_o vindication_n of_o a_o council_n which_o once_o admit_v have_v pass_v a_o peremptory_a sentence_n against_o the_o new_a pretend_a reformation_n and_o determine_v all_o the_o chief_a modern_a controversy_n chap._n xiii_o of_o the_o pretence_n of_o follow_a conscience_n against_o church-authority_n two_o defence_n against_o obey_v or_o yield_a assent_n to_o church-authority_n §_o 271._o 1._o the_o necessity_n of_o follow_v our_o conscience_n 2._o the_o certainty_n of_o a_o truth_n that_o be_v oppose_v by_o the_o church_n reply_v to_o the_o first_o that_o follow_v our_o 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and_o uncertainty_n of_o that_o which_o be_v maintain_v against_o it_o and_o then_o this_o late_a only_o as_o have_v be_v show_v etc._n show_v §._o 291._o etc._n etc._n be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n and_o inductive_a of_o their_o conformity_n to_o it_o i_o mean_v to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o present_a church_n in_o this_o point_n then_o the_o main_a trial_n seem_v to_o be_v 1._o whether_o antiquity_n indeed_o so_o understand_v and_o council_n declare_v the_o sense_n of_o these_o scripture_n as_o be_v pretend_v since_o as_o mr._n thorndike_n have_v it_o in_o his_o rule_n of_o reformation_n 8._o reformation_n forbea_n and_o penalty_n c._n 8._o this_o be_v to_o be_v take_v for_o grant_v that_o nothing_o can_v be_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o scripture_n which_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n contradict_v 2._o if_o this_o find_v so_o whether_o this_o authority_n ought_v not_o to_o prescribe_v to_o any_o particular_a judgement_n especial_o when_o he_o perceive_v the_o new_a 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