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office_n with_o all_o their_o spiritual_a gift_n and_o power_n the_o key_n pag._n 31._o 9_o as_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v diverse_a so_o be_v the_o subject_n to_o who_o they_o be_v commit_v diverse_a the_o key_n pag._n 11._o so_o locky_a here_o but_o that_o he_o add_v not_o profess_v the_o apostle_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o apostolical_a power_n ibid._n 32._o a_o synod_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o that_o power_n whereby_o error_n be_v convince_v and_o condemn_v ibid._n pag._n 47._o not_o believer_n as_o believer_n but_o believer_n convenant_v and_o fit_o capable_a according_a to_o christ_n appointment_n hook_n suru._n p._n 1._o p._n 203._o 9_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n belong_v first_o to_o a_o congregation_n of_o covenant_a believer_n hook_n suru._n part._n 1._o pag._n 219._o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n as_o the_o first_o subject_n ibid._n p._n 195._o that_o conceit_n be_v wide_a to_o make_v one_o first_o subject_n of_o this_o power_n and_o yet_o other_o to_o share_n in_o this_o power_n not_o by_o mean_n of_o that_o for_o this_o be_v to_o speak_v dagger_n and_o contradiction_n ibid._n section_n 3_o now_o see_v the_o author_n argument_n upon_o the_o confession_n of_o his_o faith_n have_v he_o this_o trust_v bequeath_v to_o he_o mat._n 16._o 16._o therefore_o to_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n and_o believe_v with_o such_o a_o faith_n as_o flesh_n and_o blood_n can_v reveal_v be_v the_o key_n of_o power_n primary_o give_v and_o to_o the_o elder_n in_o the_o second_o place_n as_o exert_v out_o of_o this_o first_o estate_n and_o as_o officer_n and_o servant_n of_o it_o answ_n and_o first_o note_n somewhat_o upon_o the_o consequent_a section_n 4_o 1._o the_o consequent_a as_o here_o infer_v be_v much_o different_a from_o that_o which_o be_v propound_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o paragraph_n there_o it_o be_v propound_v thus_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v not_o first_o give_v to_o peter_n as_o etc._n etc._n but_o as_o a_o believer_n here_o it_o be_v the_o key_n of_o power_n the_o former_a expression_n suppose_v there_o be_v such_o a_o distinction_n of_o key_n as_o key_n of_o power_n and_o another_o sort_n of_o key_n different_a from_o these_o be_v indefinite_a may_v import_v both_o but_o the_o latter_a import_v a_o specification_n of_o a_o definite_a sort_n of_o key_n what_o mean_v this_o variation_n that_o the_o reader_n may_v understand_v this_o mystery_n the_o better_a it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o when_o as_o hitherto_o in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n by_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v understand_v the_o ordinance_n of_o jesus_n christ_n which_o he_o have_v appoint_v to_o be_v administrate_n in_o his_o church_n or_o the_o power_n of_o administer_a these_o ordinance_n under_o himself_o these_o key_n have_v be_v distribute_v unto_o the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n or_o doctrine_n which_o be_v the_o preach_n of_o the_o 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forge_a key_n see_v in_o jus_n divin_n of_o church_n govern._n part_n 2._o c._n 10._o pag._n 108_o 109._o etc._n etc._n and_o mr._n caudreys_n vindiciae_fw-la clav_fw-mi c._n 2._o per_fw-la tot_fw-la now_o when_o mr._n locky_a in_o the_o consequent_a of_o his_o argument_n speak_v of_o the_o key_n of_o power_n it_o will_v seem_v he_o must_v understand_v that_o second_o kind_n of_o key_n for_o i_o know_v no_o other_o go_v under_o that_o name_n among_o independent_o yet_o may_v be_v by_o a_o new_a conception_n of_o his_o own_o he_o mean_v that_o all_o power_n of_o government_n distinguish_v from_o the_o preach_a of_o the_o word_n and_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n exercise_v in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n and_o dispensation_n of_o censure_n again_o see_v another_o great_a variation_n at_o first_o he_o propound_v that_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n first_o as_o a_o believer_n this_o may_v import_v and_o as_o speak_v there_o by_o the_o author_n without_o any_o explication_n can_v be_v otherwise_o understand_v but_o that_o it_o do_v import_v that_o they_o be_v give_v to_o he_o as_o a_o single_a believer_n but_o now_o in_o the_o consequent_a infer_v in_o the_o pretend_a proof_n he_o say_v thus_o they_o be_v give_v first_o to_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n this_o be_v a_o society_n of_o person_n collective_o and_o united_o take_v and_o not_o person_n single_o 2._o where_o shall_v we_o ever_o read_v the_o elder_n or_o minister_n call_v the_o officer_n and_o servant_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v as_o mr._n locky_a mean_v by_o way_n of_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n as_o a_o superior_a or_o mistress_n depute_v and_o employ_v they_o to_o officiat_fw-la and_o act_n in_o her_o place_n we_o find_v indeed_o they_o be_v call_v the_o servant_n of_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n by_o way_n of_o relation_n of_o a_o mean_n to_o a_o end_n for_o their_o good_a 2_o cor._n 4_o 5._o 1_o cor._n 3._o 22._o as_o angel_n or_o minister_a spirit_n send_v forth_o to_o minister_n for_o they_o who_o shall_v be_v heir_n of_o salvation_n heb._n 1._o ult_n but_o they_o be_v only_o christ_n officer_n and_o servant_n by_o way_n of_o relation_n of_o depute_n to_o officiat_fw-la and_o employ_v to_o serve_v unto_o a_o superior_a and_o master_n depute_v to_o officiat_fw-la and_o employ_v to_o serve_v in_o his_o place_n and_o be_v set_v over_o the_o church_n by_o he_o section_n 5_o but_o now_o consider_v we_o how_o this_o consequent_a be_v prove_v the_o argugument_n as_o propound_v by_o the_o author_n be_v enthymematick_a and_o must_v suppose_v another_o premisse_a beside_o that_o which_o be_v express_v which_o must_v be_v true_a as_o well_o as_o that_o express_v to_o make_v the_o consequence_n good_a now_o i_o humble_o desire_v he_o to_o give_v we_o that_o suppress_v and_o suppose_a premisse_a very_o keep_v he_o to_o one_o syllogism_n and_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o do_v it_o observe_v the_o rule_n of_o good_a logic_n and_o reason_n but_o it_o may_v be_v 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rational_a obedience_n 3._o that_o they_o join_v their_o assent_n we_o shall_v not_o deny_v but_o the_o question_n be_v what_o sort_n of_o assent_n whether_o authoritative_a and_o definitiveâ—_n 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o prove_v nor_o can_v be_v prove_v from_o the_o text._n their_o â—…urring_v in_o send_v messenger_n proveâ—_n it_o not_o section_n 13_o as_o to_o what_o follow_v of_o mr._n lockiers_n word_n in_o this_o 8._o sect_n yet_o will_v they_o not_o leave_v etc._n etc._n 1._o what_o he_o mean_v by_o presbyter_n primat_n and_o these_o introduce_v superintendent_o bring_v in_o general_a coercive_a assem_fw-la i_o confess_v i_o understand_v not_o sure_o i_o be_o presbyterian_o acknowledge_v not_o presbyter_n primat_n nor_o superintendant_o either_o but_o that_o their_o way_n be_v very_o contrary_a to_o both_o 2._o i_o confess_v the_o apostle_n in_o their_o practice_n in_o this_o synod_n leave_v no_o example_n introduce_v of_o a_o pope_n but_o withal_o i_o think_v â—hey_n leave_v a_o example_n for_o a_o synod_n general_a or_o particular_a wherein_o church_n ruler_n may_v juridical_o determine_v controversy_n in_o religion_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n oblige_v people_n to_o obedience_n under_o hazard_n of_o ecclesiastic_a censure_n as_o shall_v be_v more_o clear_v hereafter_o and_o that_o this_o do_v not_o supersede_n any_o power_n of_o people_n or_o particular_a assemb_v of_o saint_n private_a believer_n that_o be_v competent_a to_o they_o by_o the_o grant_n and_o appointment_n of_o jesus_n christ_n i_o close_o this_o purpose_n of_o this_o section_n with_o the_o word_n of_o the_o learned_a professor_n of_o leiden_fw-mi synop._n pur._n theol._n disp_n 49._o the_o council_n thes_n 29._o si_fw-mi ex_fw-la laicis_fw-la cujuscunque_fw-la status_fw-la &_o conditionis_fw-la sunt_fw-la viri_fw-la pielate_fw-la sacrarum_fw-la rerum_fw-la intelligentiâ_fw-la sapientiâ_fw-la &_o prudentiâ_fw-la modestiâ_fw-la pacis_fw-la study_v &_o mansuetudine_fw-la ensign_fw-la admitti_fw-la &_o accedere_fw-la possunt_fw-la sed_fw-la vocati_fw-la seu_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la selecti_fw-la &_o missi_fw-la iique_fw-la svo_fw-la ordine_fw-la &_o modo_fw-la rogati_fw-la sententiam_fw-la dicere_fw-la verumtamen_fw-la ab_fw-la illis_fw-la in_o publicâ_fw-la hâc_fw-la actione_n consilium_fw-la &_o arbitrium_fw-la potius_fw-la quà m_fw-la suffragium_fw-la requiritur_fw-la adfuisse_fw-la sanè_fw-la plebem_fw-la consilio_fw-la &_o apostolis_n presbyterisque_fw-la adstitisse_fw-la ut_fw-la auditores_fw-la &_o testes_fw-la &_o silentio_fw-la saltem_fw-la svo_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la voce_fw-la approbatores_fw-la fuisse_fw-la consensumque_fw-la praebuisse_fw-la videre_fw-la est_fw-la act._n 15._o atque_fw-la id_fw-la etiam_fw-la comprobat_fw-la primarum_fw-la &_o probatarum_fw-la synodorum_n praxis_fw-la &_o usus_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o concilio_n carthaginensi_fw-la sub_fw-la cypriano_n liqâ—et_fw-la interea_fw-la tamen_fw-la &_o populo_fw-la christi_fw-la maneâ—_n hâ—c_fw-la suum_fw-la ex_fw-la divino_fw-la verbo_fw-la judicium_fw-la sed_fw-la privatum_fw-la â—e_n humana_fw-la placita_fw-la pro_fw-la divinis_fw-la accipiat_fw-la math._n 7._o 19_o section_n 14_o for_o hâ—_n 3._o instance_n concern_v election_n of_o officer_n we_o grant_v that_o election_n of_o officer_n be_v to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d but_o election_n be_v no_o 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v one_o of_o the_o thâ—…_n weighty_a thing_n mention_v in_o 〈…〉_o â—sseâ—…ion_n and_o repeat_v aâ—aiâ—…_n sect_n 6._o wherein_o he_o underâ—…k_o 〈…〉_o â—hat_n the_o elder_a 〈…〉_o to_o exert_v power_n without_o the_o 〈◊〉_d authoritative_a 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o people_n not_o 〈◊〉_d iâ—_n formal_o give_v the_o office_n power_n 〈…〉_o sign_n the_o person_n to_o be_v invest_v 〈◊〉_d the_o powâ—…_n by_o 〈…〉_o be_v not_o one_o already_o ordain_v as_o 〈◊〉_d â—he_v 〈◊〉_d of_o thâ—sâ—_n 〈…〉_o to_o be_v deacon_n act_n 6._o or_o applyeâ—_n 〈◊〉_d to_o exercise_v his_o 〈◊〉_d in_o this_o particular_a charge_n if_o 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the_o word_n and_o administer_v sacrament_n alone_o without_o concurrence_n or_o special_a consent_n either_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o other_o ruler_n to_o every_o act_n but_o in_o other_o thing_n these_o of_o the_o power_n call_v the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n the_o exercise_n and_o power_n thereof_o be_v not_o give_v to_o one_o but_o to_o a_o unity_n to_o the_o community_n of_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n unite_v together_o not_o any_o single_a ruler_n several_o therefore_o though_o a_o pastor_n may_v preach_v and_o baptize_v alone_o yet_o he_o may_v not_o censure_v nor_o excommunicate_v alone_o and_o if_o he_o shall_v do_v this_o the_o act_n be_v invalide_v both_o in_o foro_fw-la dei_fw-la and_o in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la now_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n and_o excommunication_n be_v give_v to_o a_o community_n the_o question_n be_v whether_o this_o community_n be_v a_o particular_a congregation_n have_v a_o entire_a particular_a eldership_n or_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n by_o itself_o and_o independent_a from_o a_o large_a presbytery_n this_o mr._n locky_a say_v but_o his_o argument_n ground_v upon_o our_o grant_n to_o prove_v it_o be_v impertinent_a as_o we_o have_v see_v section_n 4_o but_o further_a he_o will_v prove_v that_o a_o particular_a congregation_n have_v power_n to_o exercise_v all_o ordinance_n as_o well_o as_o any_o thus_o sect._n 41._o the_o key_n be_v not_o divide_v the_o key_n be_v all_o give_v to_o peter_n as_o personate_n the_o church_n of_o believer_n in_o the_o gospel_n that_o kingdom_n of_o which_o christ_n say_v he_o will_v build_v and_o i_o will_v give_v unto_o thou_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v bind_v on_o earth_n mat._n 16._o 19_o sure_o this_o particular_a here_o use_v be_v not_o in_o vain_a but_o to_o set_v forth_o that_o every_o gospel-church_n every_o particular_a congregation_n of_o believer_n unite_v as_o a_o visible_a 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visible_a individual_o one_o for_o certain_o the_o article_n the_o denotate_v
eorum_fw-la professione_n non_fw-la moveremur_fw-la ut_fw-la quod_fw-la apud_fw-la potestatem_fw-la seculi_fw-la erant_fw-la confessi_fw-la in_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la constituti_fw-la comprobarent_fw-la quamobrem_fw-la maximum_fw-la prespyterum_fw-la jussimus_fw-la locum_fw-la suum_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la caeteros_fw-la cum_fw-la ingenti_fw-la populi_fw-la suffragio_fw-la recepimus_fw-la i_o need_v not_o comment_n upon_o the_o place_n it_o speak_v plain_a enough_o of_o itself_o what_o we_o be_v plead_v for_o section_n 18_o 3._o that_o the_o give_v of_o definitive_a sentence_n in_o question_n of_o faith_n or_o make_v ecclesiastic_a constitution_n and_o canon_n concern_v order_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n in_o these_o age_n do_v ordinary_o pertain_v only_o to_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n bishop_n and_o elder_n &_o that_o though_o other_o private_a christian_n may_v be_v present_a hear_v and_o consult_v that_o yet_o these_o only_o do_v sit_v and_o vote_n as_o ordinary_a judge_n be_v undenyablie_o clear_a by_o the_o history_n of_o all_o counsel_n that_o be_v then_o hold_v in_o the_o church_n i_o say_v ordinary_a for_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o sometime_o such_o as_o be_v not_o in_o any_o such_o ministerial_a office_n do_v also_o sit_v and_o concur_v in_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n but_o these_o be_v not_o any_o whatsoever_o private_a christian_n promiscuous_o but_o eminent_a learned_a and_o pious_a man_n and_o have_v authority_n and_o call_v thereunto_o either_o by_o antecedent_n agreement_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v to_o meet_v in_o the_o assembly_n or_o by_o a_o subsequent_a assume_v and_o call_v of_o they_o by_o the_o assembly_n itself_o which_o be_v a_o especial_a vocation_n unto_o the_o ministerial_a office_n ad_fw-la tempus_fw-la and_o in_o relation_n to_o these_o particular_a act_n which_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o synod_n and_o in_o so_o far_o do_v exempt_v they_o è_fw-mi sort_n out_o of_o the_o state_n of_o mere_a private_a christian_n but_o that_o such_o as_o be_v mere_a private_a christian_n i._n e._n be_v neither_o ordinary_a minister_n nor_o have_v a_o special_a calling_n extra_fw-la ordinem_fw-la concur_v to_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n in_o assembly_n be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a see_v what_o junius_n a_o man_n well_o verse_v in_o antiquity_n say_v to_o bellarm_n cont._n 3._o lib._n 2._o c._n 25._o n._n 2._o speak_v in_o relation_n to_o ancient_a counsel_n eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la conciliis_fw-la intersunt_fw-la varia_fw-la esse_fw-la genera_fw-la esse_fw-la audientes_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o doctrina_fw-la &_o ordine_fw-la ex_fw-la auditione_n informantur_fw-la esse_fw-la doctos_fw-la qui_fw-la ad_fw-la consultationem_fw-la adhibentur_fw-la esse_fw-la denique_fw-la episcopos_fw-la &_o presbyteros_fw-la qui_fw-la decidunt_fw-la res_fw-la ferendis_fw-la sententiis_fw-la and_o again_o cont._n 4._o lib._n 1._o c._n 15._o n._n 15._o qui_fw-la sine_fw-la authoritate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la adjunt_fw-la eorum_fw-la alii_fw-la etiam_fw-la consultationibus_fw-la adhiberi_fw-la possunt_fw-la ut_fw-la docti_fw-la praetertim_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la sed_fw-la dicere_fw-la sententiam_fw-la definitivam_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la section_n 19_o i_o hear_v of_o two_o main_a objection_n which_o use_v to_o be_v be_v make_v against_o what_o i_o have_v be_v plead_v for_o and_o for_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o people_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n 1._o that_o be_v allege_v of_o the_o magdeburg_n cent._n 2._o c._n 7._o p._n 134._o coeterum_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la probatos_fw-la autores_fw-la huius_fw-la saeculi_fw-la perspiciat_fw-la videbit_fw-la formam_fw-la gubernationis_fw-la propemodum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d similem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la to_o which_o may_v be_v add_v that_o of_o learned_a whitak_n cont._n 4._o q._n 1._o c._n 1._o sic_fw-la partim_fw-la aristocraticum_fw-la partim_fw-la democraticum_fw-la partim_fw-la etiam_fw-la monarchicum_fw-la n._n si_fw-la velimus_fw-la christum_fw-la ipsum_fw-la respicere_fw-la as_o he_o say_v a_o little_a before_o est_fw-la semperque_fw-la fuit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la regimen_fw-la answ_n that_o these_o author_n call_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n either_o much_o like_a unto_o a_o democraticall_a or_o in_o part_n democraticall_a their_o meaning_n and_o intention_n be_v not_o that_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o private_a professor_n do_v formal_o concur_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o such_o act_n as_o be_v formal_o authoritative_a and_o judicial_a act_n of_o government_n which_o be_v requisite_a to_o make_v the_o government_n formal_o and_o proper_o democraticall_a either_o in_o whole_a or_o in_o part_n but_o only_a because_o of_o such_o thing_n competent_a to_o they_o as_o we_o have_v mention_v §_o 14._o which_o be_v no_o authoritative_a or_o judicial_a act_n of_o government_n and_o first_o for_o the_o magdeburg_n see_v how_o they_o explicate_v that_o which_o they_o say_v in_o the_o next_o follow_v word_n singulae_fw-la enim_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la parem_fw-la habebant_fw-la potestatem_fw-la verbum_fw-la dei_fw-la pure_a docendi_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la administrandi_fw-la absolvendi_fw-la &_o excommunicandi_fw-la haereticos_fw-la &_o sceleratos_fw-la &_o ceremonias_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n acceptas_fw-la exercendi_fw-la aut_fw-la etiam_fw-la pro_fw-la ratione_fw-la aedificationis_fw-la novas_fw-la condendi_fw-la ministros_fw-la eligendi_fw-la vocandi_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la &_o justissimas_fw-la ob_fw-la causas_fw-la iterum_fw-la deponendi_fw-la in_o these_o word_n there_o be_v two_o thing_n express_o observable_a to_o our_o purpose_n 1._o that_o they_o in_o explicate_v the_o democracy_n they_o speak_v of_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o power_n of_o single_a person_n as_o to_o matter_n of_o government_n but_o of_o single_a or_o particular_a church_n singulae_fw-la enim_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la say_v they_o parem_fw-la habebant_fw-la potestatem_fw-la etc._n etc._n whereby_o it_o may_v easy_o and_o evident_o appear_v that_o while_o they_o say_v that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v much_o like_o a_o democracy_n they_o mean_v this_o not_o to_o take_v away_o the_o government_n out_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o christ_n officer_n of_o the_o church_n to_o put_v it_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o whole_a people_n at_o least_o to_o join_v these_o with_o they_o in_o the_o formal_a and_o proper_a act_n of_o it_o but_o in_o opposition_n to_o that_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a superiority_n of_o any_o one_o particular_a chutch_n over_o other_o particular_a church_n as_o the_o prelatical_a man_n plead_v for_o authoritative_a superiority_n in_o their_o cathedral_n church_n over_o all_o particular_a church_n in_o the_o diaecese_n and_o the_o papalin_n for_o a_o universal_a superiority_n and_o supremacy_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n over_o all_o other_o church_n in_o the_o world_n 2._o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o among_o other_o thing_n which_o they_o reckon_v up_o as_o part_n of_o the_o church_n government_n which_o they_o say_v be_v much_o like_a democracie_n they_o put_v in_o the_o preach_a of_o the_o word_n and_o admistration_n of_o sacrament_n which_o themselves_o before_o say_v and_o no_o man_n of_o sound_a judgement_n will_v deny_v be_v act_n proper_a to_o the_o call_v minister_n of_o christ_n whence_o also_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o they_o mean_v not_o a_o democracie_n proper_o so_o call_v which_o put_v the_o formal_a power_n and_o exercise_v of_o government_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o all_o and_o every_o one_o of_o the_o multitude_n which_o the_o independent_a brethren_n plead_v for_o and_o indeed_o will_v any_o man_n consider_v what_o the_o particular_a church_n be_v to_o which_o these_o centuriator_n attribute_v private_a synod_n cent._n 2._o c._n 7._o pag._n 130._o wherein_o it_o may_v possible_o be_v conceive_v that_o democracie_n can_v have_v place_n especial_o and_o it_o may_v easy_o be_v perceive_v that_o they_o be_v such_o as_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o people_n for_o who_o right_a to_o concur_v in_o juridical_a act_n the_o independent_a brethren_n plead_v can_v not_o possible_o meet_v together_o in_o one_o or_o be_v present_a at_o once_o in_o their_o synod_n when_o assemble_v for_o exercise_n of_o jurisdiction_n for_o most_o part_n at_o least_o of_o they_o which_o they_o call_v particular_a church_n be_v of_o such_o amplitude_n and_o so_o numerous_a that_o such_o a_o assemble_v of_o their_o whole_a body_n be_v not_o possible_a and_o in_o truth_n they_o be_v diaecesan_n or_o presbyterial_a church_n and_o not_o such_o single_a congregation_n as_o the_o question_n between_o we_o and_o the_o independent_a brethren_n concern_v for_o mark_v it_o in_o that_o very_a place_n last_o cite_v speak_v of_o these_o particular_a church_n and_o their_o private_a synod_n they_o bring_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o a_o instance_n and_o who_o know_v not_o how_o numerous_a the_o christian_n in_o rome_n be_v become_v ere_o that_o time_n add_v to_o these_o thing_n that_o these_o same_o author_n cent._n 3._o c._n 7._o p._n 151._o say_v express_o that_o jus_o tractandi_fw-la de_fw-la excommunicandis_fw-la aut_fw-la recipiendis_fw-la publicae_fw-la lapsis_fw-la penes_fw-la seniores_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la erat_fw-la and_o cite_v tertul._n apolog._n for_o it_o read_v also_o c._n 6._o ejusdem_fw-la cent._n pag._n 129_o l._n 30._o
appendix_n for_o the_o present_a what_o we_o have_v say_v be_v sufficient_a to_o show_v that_o john_n baptize_v such_o as_o come_v to_o he_o upon_o thâ—_n 〈◊〉_d profession_n without_o any_o delay_n of_o time_n or_o wait_v for_o trial_n of_o the_o sincerity_n of_o their_o save_a conversion_n section_n 11_o in_o like_a manner_n find_v we_o that_o the_o apostle_n admit_v to_o baptism_n person_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o make_v profession_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n without_o delay_n â—or_a trial_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o grace_n in_o their_o heart_n as_o act_n 2._o 38._o 41._o we_o read_v they_o baptize_v and_o so_o add_v to_o the_o church_n three_o thousand_o that_o same_o day_n that_o they_o first_o profess_v without_o delay_n of_o the_o matter_n for_o so_o much_o as_o one_o day_n when_o as_o so_o great_a a_o number_n may_v excuse_v the_o delay_n if_o they_o will_v have_v take_v long_o time_n to_o the_o buâ—…nesse_n and_o certain_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d the_o conversion_n of_o these_o man_n be_v so_o sudden_a one_o will_v think_v 〈◊〉_d apostle_n will_v have_v wait_v for_o a_o trial_n and_o proof_n of_o their_o sincerity_n if_o so_o be_v such_o a_o trial_n and_o proof_n have_v be_v by_o christ_n institution_n necessary_a to_o go_v before_o the_o admission_n of_o man_n into_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n which_o act_v and_o direct_v the_o apostle_n do_v dictate_v they_o no_o such_o thing_n in_o like_a manner_n the_o samaritâ—…_n man_n and_o woman_n be_v baptize_v without_o any_o delay_n act_v 8._o 1â—_n so_o simon_n at_o that_o same_o timâ—_n albeit_o to_o that_o very_a day_n he_o have_v be_v a_o sorcerer_n dement_v that_o people_n with_o his_o devilish_a enchantment_n and_o with_o sacrilegious_a impiety_n give_v himself_o out_o as_o the_o great_a powâ—…_n of_o god_n yet_o as_o soon_o as_o be_v convince_v by_o thâ—_n sight_n of_o miracle_n he_o profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n be_v baptize_v by_o philip._n final_o whosoever_o be_v baptize_v by_o the_o apostle_n that_o we_o read_v of_o be_v baptize_v after_o this_o same_o manner_n nor_o can_v there_o be_v give_v from_o scripture_n so_o much_o as_o one_o instance_n of_o any_o one_o man_n who_o professâ—…g_v the_o faith_n and_o desire_v the_o communion_n of_o thâ—_n church_n be_v refuse_v baptism_n for_o a_o time_n until_o he_o shall_v give_v a_o trial_n and_o evidence_n of_o the_o siâ—…erity_n of_o the_o work_n of_o grace_n in_o his_o heart_n section_n 12_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o john_n baptist_n and_o the_o apostlâ—…_n add_v the_o practice_n of_o jesus_n christ_n himself_o it_o be_v worthy_a of_o observation_n say_v mr._n baxter_n well_o against_o tomb_n pag._n 127._o that_o it_o be_v say_v john_n 3._o 26._o he_o baptize_v viz._n by_o the_o ministry_n of_o his_o disciple_n and_o all_o man_n come_v unto_o he_o whereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o baptize_v man_n present_o and_o without_o delay_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o come_v and_o profess_v themselves_o his_o disciple_n shall_v we_o then_o miserable_a man_n not_o content_a with_o our_o lord_n example_n take_v upon_o we_o to_o be_v more_o severe_a and_o exact_a in_o his_o matter_n then_o himself_o very_o i_o can_v look_v upon_o this_o too_o great_a diligence_n but_o as_o a_o counsel_n of_o man_n pride_n shuffle_n itself_o in_o under_o a_o mask_n of_o purity_n â—…d_v accuracy_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o god_n section_n 13_o what_o further_o may_v be_v except_v against_o this_o argument_n build_v upon_o that_o ground_n whereon_o as_o a_o sufficient_a qualification_n christ_n his_o apostle_n and_o john_n baptist_n admit_v person_n to_o baptism_n i_o know_v not_o unless_o some_o haply_o will_v say_v that_o baptism_n do_v not_o constitute_v one_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o reverend_a hooker_n contend_v in_o a_o large_a dispute_n suru._n p._n 1._o c._n 4._o pag._n 55._o &_o seq_fw-la and_o that_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n and_o to_o be_v admit_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n and_o that_o more_o may_v be_v require_v as_o a_o necessary_a antecedent_n qualification_n to_o this_o then_o be_v to_o that_o but_o as_o to_o this_o exception_n 1._o i_o yield_v that_o baptism_n in_o itself_o give_v not_o the_o be_v of_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o that_o one_o must_v be_v first_o a_o member_n thereof_o de_fw-la jure_fw-la which_o we_o say_v be_v give_v by_o such_o external_a profession_n as_o we_o have_v describe_v before_o to_o man_n of_o year_n and_o to_o infant_n by_o federall_a holiness_n derive_v from_o their_o parent_n otherwise_o baptism_n can_v not_o constitute_v one_o a_o member_n nevertheless_o we_o hold_v this_o for_o certain_a that_o baptism_n be_v the_o ordinary_a ordinance_n whereby_o solemn_a admission_n and_o initiation_n into_o actual_a communion_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v perform_v neither_o since_o the_o time_n that_o baptism_n be_v institute_v can_v 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not_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o hence_o it_o shall_v follow_v that_o a_o baptize_v christian_a even_o after_o he_o be_v such_o be_v yet_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n among_o these_o that_o be_v without_o pagan_n and_o infidel_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 12._o for_o there_o the_o apostle_n divide_v the_o whole_a satitude_n of_o mankind_n into_o these_o two_o class_n of_o those_o that_o be_v within_o and_o 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v without_o and_o as_o by_o these_o that_o be_v within_o he_o understand_v such_o as_o be_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n who_o also_o he_o call_v brethren_n v._o 11._o so_o by_o those_o who_o be_v without_o he_o understand_v infidel_n who_o he_o call_v the_o man_n of_o the_o world_n v._o 10._o this_o much_o for_o our_o first_o argument_n section_n 14_o arg._n 2._o if_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n have_v not_o give_v to_o any_o man_n or_o society_n of_o man_n upon_o earth_n judiciary_n power_n authoritative_o judicial_o and_o positive_o to_o pronounce_v sentence_n touch_v the_o inward_a spiritual_a condition_n of_o all_o man_n profess_v true_a christian_a religion_n and_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n whether_o they_o be_v regenerate_v or_o not_o then_o it_o can_v be_v by_o christ_n institution_n a_o necessary_a qualification_n requisite_a to_o the_o admit_v of_o person_n into_o the_o outward_a fellowship_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o they_o be_v in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la judge_v true_o convert_v and_o regenerate_v but_o the_o former_a be_v true_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o latter_a the_o connexion_n of_o the_o proposition_n be_v evident_a of_o itself_o as_o to_o the_o assumption_n let_v it_o be_v note_v 1._o that_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o a_o minister_n have_v power_n from_o god_n with_o ministerial_a authority_n to_o determine_v doctrinal_o and_o in_o thesi_fw-la man_n regenerate_v and_o in_o the_o state_n of_o grace_n and_o reconciliation_n or_o unregenerate_a and_o as_o 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he_o can_v find_v use_v by_o presbyterian_o to_o prove_v the_o power_n and_o authority_n of_o ecclesiastic_a government_n to_o be_v in_o the_o hand_n not_o of_o the_o people_n but_o only_o of_o the_o church_n officer_n i_o can_v think_v he_o will_v say_v so_o if_o he_o have_v be_v at_o the_o pain_n to_o read_v they_o why_o then_o have_v he_o pass_v other_o in_o silence_n if_o he_o mind_v to_o give_v his_o rational_a reader_n satisfaction_n touch_v his_o tenet_n in_o this_o question_n we_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o see_v these_o touch_v at_o by_o the_o author_n here_o more_o pregnant_o manage_v and_o other_o beside_o they_o in_o jus_n divin_n of_o church_n government_n part_n 2._o c._n 10_o and_o c._n 11._o sect._n 2._o gul._n apollon_n considerate_a of_o certain_a gontrov_n c._n 4._o spanhem_n epist_n to_o david_n buchan_n q._n 2._o mr._n ruth_n peaceable_a plea_n and_o due_a right_n now_o come_v we_o to_o mr._n lockiers_n second_o assertion_n section_n vii_o mr._n lockiers_n 2._o 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c._n 7._o titul_n de_fw-fr consociatione_fw-la plurium_fw-la eccles_n in_o unâ_fw-la aliquâ_fw-la provinciâ_fw-la p._n 158._o diximus_fw-la superiori_fw-la saeculo_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la provinciae_fw-la solitas_fw-la esse_fw-la plerumque_fw-la ad_fw-la unam_fw-la aliquam_fw-la maximè_fw-la insignem_fw-la respicere_fw-la eamque_fw-la venerari_fw-la &_o ab_fw-la ea_fw-la consilia_fw-la &_o mutua_fw-la officia_fw-la petere_fw-la &_o recte_fw-la monitis_fw-la obtemperare_fw-la ea_fw-la vero_fw-la res_fw-la ut_fw-la paulatim_fw-la in_o consuetudinem_fw-la abiit_fw-la ita_fw-la hoc_fw-la saeculo_fw-la observata_fw-la est_fw-la nam_fw-la in_o plerisque_fw-la provinciis_fw-la caeterae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la eorumque_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o clerici_fw-la se_fw-la ad_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la alicujus_fw-la vrbis_fw-la episcopum_fw-la doctrinâ_fw-la pielate_fw-la &_o constantiâ_fw-la insignem_fw-la &_o sacerdotum_fw-la collegium_fw-la associarunt_fw-la ut_fw-la eorum_fw-la operâ_fw-la tanquam_fw-la communium_fw-la inspectorum_fw-la &_o gubernatorum_fw-la uterentur_fw-la and_o in_o the_o same_o cent._n p._n 163._o l._n 40._o de_fw-fr consociatione_fw-la vnivers_n they_o say_v si_fw-mi autem_fw-la graviores_fw-la quaestiones_fw-la aut_fw-la controversiae_fw-la incidebant_fw-la aut_fw-la alia_fw-la negotia_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la ad_fw-la unius_fw-la provinciae_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la attinebant_fw-la sed_fw-la ad_fw-la plures_fw-la tum_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o diversis_fw-la provinciis_fw-la svas_fw-la operas_fw-la conjungebant_fw-la in_fw-la petendis_fw-la aut_fw-la dandis_fw-la consiliis_fw-la in_fw-la componendis_fw-la schismatibus_fw-la in_fw-la refutandis_fw-la erroribus_fw-la in_fw-la congregandis_fw-la synodis_fw-la in_fw-la excommunicandis_fw-la haeretecis_fw-la &_o aliis_fw-la facinorosis_fw-la see_v also_o after_o pag._n 166._o l._n 22._o &_o seq_fw-la see_v also_o cent._n 4._o c._n 7._o p._n 517._o l._n 21._o &_o pag._n 522._o l._n 8._o but_o 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