Selected quad for the lemma: authority_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
authority_n	apostle_n	church_n	minister_n	2,916	5	6.7721	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A81501	The Discipline and order of particular churches, no novelty. Proved from Scripture, reason, autiquity, and the most eminent modern divines. Or, A discourse of the church, in a scripture notion, with her extent, power and practice, tending to moderate the minds of men, toward dissenters in matters ecclesiastical, and to acquit such from the charge of innovation, faction, separation, schism, and breach of union and peace in the church, who cannot conform in many things to the rules, canons, and practices of others. / By a Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order.	Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order.	1675 (1675)	Wing D1558A; ESTC R174652	61,995	98

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he_o tell_v this_o church_n in_o general_n that_o they_o do_v affect_v eusebius_n and_o will_v have_v elect_v he_o to_o be_v their_o bishop_n and_o then_o he_o persuade_v they_o to_o choose_v another_o see_v all_o do_v not_o agree_v therefore_o say_v he_o not_o lawful_a because_o say_v he_o he_o that_o be_v elect_v to_o a_o bishopric_n by_o the_o general_a suffrage_n of_o wise_a man_n assemble_v to_o deliberate_v thereof_o aught_o by_o god_n law_n to_o enjoy_v it_o this_o be_v record_v in_o eusebius_n of_o the_o life_n of_o constantine_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 58._o p._n 52._o yea_o the_o great_a nicene_n council_n agree_v it_o in_o these_o word_n express_v in_o socrat._v lib._n 1._o cap._n 6._o p._n 225._o speak_v about_o some_o who_o may_v be_v in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v make_v minister_n they_o say_v if_o they_o be_v find_v worthy_a and_o the_o people_n choose_v they_o they_o may_v succeed_v the_o decease_a etc._n etc._n yet_o further_o it_o be_v manifest_a by_o the_o same_o 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this_o practice_n of_o the_o particular_a church_n and_o their_o right_n thereto_o the_o father_n give_v in_o their_o testimony_n also_o a_o touch_n of_o they_o therefore_o tertul._n in_o his_o apol._n to_o the_o gent._n cap._n 39_o p._n 137._o english_a translation_n say_v that_o in_o these_o assembly_n there_o be_v bishop_n that_o preside_v they_o be_v approve_v of_o by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o they_o who_o they_o ought_v to_o conduct_v so_o say_v many_o other_o 95._o possidon_n in_o vita_fw-la aug._n cap._n 4._o leo._n 1._o epist_n 95._o quote_v by_o the_o magdeburg_n divine_v cent._n 2._o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 134_o 135._o cent._n 1._o lib._n 1._o cap._n 4._o col_fw-fr 179._o cent._n 3._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 146_o 147._o the_o roman_a presbyter_n in_o their_o epistle_n to_o cyrian_a affirm_v that_o every_o church_n have_v a_o like_a power_n of_o choose_v call_v and_o ordain_v minister_n and_o for_o just_a cause_n again_o to_o depose_v they_o 68_o cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist_n 4._o aug._n epist_n 100_o cyprian_a epist_n 68_o and_o cyprian_n himself_o say_v that_o the_o right_n of_o choose_v such_o as_o be_v fit_a and_o refuse_v the_o unworthy_a belong_v to_o the_o people_n and_o whole_a church_n and_o that_o by_o divine_a authority_n and_o that_o the_o officer_n and_o people_n do_v consult_v about_o it_o with_o common_a consent_n and_o for_o these_o thing_n he_o be_v quote_v by_o the_o magdeburg_n writer_n cent._n 3._o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 153.173_o 174_o 175._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 135_o 136.146_o and_o also_o that_o the_o people_n do_v consider_v the_o life_n and_o manner_n of_o the_o person_n to_o be_v choose_v and_o judge_v and_o much_o more_o to_o this_o purpose_n in_o those_o place_n before_o 11._o john_n ferus_fw-la a_o friar_n in_o his_o comment_n upon_o act._n 11._o and_o magdeburg_n cent._n 5._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 178_o 179_o 180._o now_o we_o shall_v add_v a_o few_o testimony_n and_o judgement_n of_o latter_a age_n and_o of_o man_n otherwise_o differ_v the_o papist_n themselves_o at_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n acknowledge_v that_o this_o be_v the_o usual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o 800_o year_n together_o after_o christ_n for_o the_o particular_a church_n to_o choose_v their_o own_o minister_n and_o they_o then_o affirm_v that_o there_o be_v remain_v at_o that_o day_n the_o record_n thereof_o at_o rome_n and_o they_o then_o and_o there_o desire_v that_o those_o record_n may_v be_v destroy_v lest_o luther_n who_o maintain_v this_o right_n to_o the_o people_n shall_v make_v use_n of_o they_o to_o bring_v in_o the_o custom_n into_o the_o church_n again_o and_o they_o there_o also_o acknowledge_v that_o this_o be_v take_v from_o the_o church_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o council_n only_o who_o make_v a_o decree_n against_o it_o ●76_n see_v the_o conference_n of_o rayno'd_n &_o hart_n c._n 6._o p._n 223._o hart_n say_v out_o of_o genebrard_n that_o clemens_n take_v not_o the_o bishopric_n by_o the_o council_n of_o the_o lord_n lest_o the_o example_n of_o take_v it_o by_o nomination_n of_o peter_n shall_v pass_v to_o posterity_n and_o derogate_v from_o the_o free_a providence_n of_o the_o church_n in_o choose_v of_o her_o own_o bishop_n geneb●ard_n chronolg_n l._n 3._o in_o lin._n see_v more_o l._n 4._o seculo_fw-la 11._o cite_v in_o the_o same_o confer_v cap._n 7._o l_o ●76_n council_n trident._n in_o english_a lib_n 7._o p._n 590_o 591.598_o see_v more_o of_o the_o same_o council_n lib._n 8._o p._n 725._o and_o he_o that_o write_v this_o history_n complain_v against_o rome_n about_o this_o in_o these_o word_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n grant_v not_o the_o people_n the_o election_n of_o their_o minister_n which_o certain_o say_v he_o be_v a_o apostolical_a institution_n continue_v more_o than_o 800_o year_n council_n trident._n lib._n 2._o p._n 163._o bishop_n jewel_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o mr._n harding_n p._n 230._o say_v out_o of_o cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist_n 4._o that_o the_o bishopric_n be_v bestow_v upon_o sabinus_n by_o the_o consent_n and_o voice_n of_o the_o whole_a brotherhood_n of_o that_o church_n to_o which_o he_o be_v to_o be_v bishop_n he_o there_o say_v that_o honorius_n the_o emperor_n write_v to_o boneface_v do_v agree_v he_o to_o be_v bishop_n who_o some_o of_o the_o clergy_n and_o whole_a brotherhood_n shall_v choose_v and_o the_o bishop_n himself_o then_o there_o affirm_v from_o hence_o that_o every_o particular_a church_n be_v call_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o after_o in_o p._n 282._o the_o bishop_n affirm_v that_o cyprian_a in_o the_o same_o place_n say_v that_o the_o people_n be_v obedient_a to_o god_n law_n have_v power_n especial_o to_o choose_v worthy_a or_o refuse_v unworthy_a priest_n mr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o irenicum_fw-la p._n 306._o quote_v tertul._n exhort_v castil_v c._n 7._o for_o these_o word_n that_o all_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o minister_n and_o people_n come_v from_o the_o church_n authority_n and_o again_o p._n 416._o himself_n say_v that_o episcopal_a man_n will_v hardly_o find_v any_o evidence_n in_o scripture_n or_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o church_n consist_v of_o many_o fix_a congregation_n for_o worship_n under_o the_o charge_n of_o one_o man_n nor_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n for_o the_o ordination_n of_o bishop_n without_o the_o precede_a election_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o at_o least_o consent_n and_o approbation_n of_o the_o people_n so_o much_o he_o allow_v there_o and_o something_o more_o in_o p._n 339._o where_o he_o use_v these_o word_n speak_v of_o elder_n now_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o people_n which_o be_v use_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n be_v grow_v out_o of_o use_n etc._n etc._n by_o which_o he_o confess_v it_o to_o be_v the_o primitive_a practice_n but_o mr._n stillingfleet_n have_v as_o he_o say_v be_v at_o the_o pain_n to_o transcribe_v some_o of_o bishop_n cranmer_n word_n they_o will_v serve_v well_o here_o and_o we_o 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themselves_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n as_o invest_v with_o authority_n to_o make_v law_n to_o impose_v upon_o other_o in_o these_o church_n matter_n for_o if_o a_o four_o church_n on_o earth_n distinct_a from_o the_o three_o description_n above_o be_v not_o find_v and_o prove_v to_o be_v vest_v with_o this_o power_n and_o capable_a to_o execute_v it_o according_a to_o christ_n mind_n none_o of_o these_o three_o do_v ever_o execute_v any_o such_o power_n the_o two_o first_o never_o make_v law_n since_o they_o grow_v to_o big_a to_o meet_v in_o one_o place_n the_o third_z never_o make_v any_o to_o be_v bind_v or_o observe_v further_o than_o in_o and_o by_o the_o same_o congregation_n or_o society_n where_o they_o be_v make_v and_o by_o who_o they_o be_v agree_v to_o it_o be_v true_a we_o find_v that_o other_o church_n like_v the_o rule_n of_o some_o one_o church_n do_v imitate_v they_o and_o agree_v of_o the_o same_o in_o their_o church_n also_o as_o socrat._v ●n_o his_o eccles_n hist_o lib._n 5._o cap._n 21._o p._n 351._o etc._n etc._n affirm_v that_o in_o those_o day_n there_o be_v diversity_n of_o observation_n and_o rite_n in_o several_a church_n without_o any_o force_n of_o any_o but_o every_o church_n as_o it_o seem_v good_a to_o they_o and_o that_o such_o as_o like_v those_o rite_n do_v commend_v they_o to_o their_o posterity_n for_o law_n and_o mr._n thorndike_n in_o his_o book_n call_v the_o true_a way_n of_o compose_v difference_n pag._n 26_o 27._o say_v that_o if_o a_o part_n of_o a_o church_n speak_v there_o of_o a_o national_a church_n as_o man_n term_v it_o shall_v give_v law_n to_o the_o whole_a such_o part_n that_o so_o do_v for_o so_o do_v be_v schismatic_a if_o therefore_o any_o particular_a church_n be_v but_o a_o part_n of_o the_o whole_a in_o his_o sense_n shall_v make_v rule_n for_o the_o whole_a or_o if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o convocation_n or_o synod_n be_v such_o a_o church_n who_o have_v this_o power_n to_o make_v law_n for_o 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