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A49110 The character of a separatist, or, Sensuality the ground of separation to which is added The pharisees lesson, on Matth. IX, XIII, and an examination of Mr. Hales Treatise of schisme / by Thomas Long ... Long, Thomas, 1621-1707. 1677 (1677) Wing L2962; ESTC R33489 102,111 240

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