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B25323 The assurance of abby and other church-lands in England to the possessors, cleared from the doubts and arguments raised about the danger of resumption in answer to a letter of a person of quality / by Nathaniel Johnston ... Johnston, Nathaniel, 1627-1705.; Coventry, William, Sir, 1628?-1686. 1687 (1687) Wing J872 65,925 215

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indistinctly released to those that possess them yet he would Admonish them that having before their Eyes the severity of the Divine Judgment against Balthazar King of Babylon who converted to prophane uses the Holy Vessels not by him but by his Father taken from the Temple if they be extant they will restore them to their proper Churches or to others The meaning of which I have before explained Then follows Exhorting also and by the Bowels of the Mercy of Jesus Christ vehemently intreating all those to whom this matter appertains that not being altogether unmindful of their Salvation at least they will do this that out of the Ecclesiastical Goods principally of those which were specially destined for the support of Parsonages and Vicarages that in Cathedrals and other Inferior Churches now in being it may be so provided for them that have the care of Souls that their Pastors Parsons and Vicars may Commodiously and Honestly according to their Quality and State be maintained whereby they may Laudably exercise the Cure of Souls and support the Incumbent Burthens This is Dated at Lambeth 9th of the Kalends of January the 5th of Pope Julius the third Then follows in the same Act the Confirmation of all these in the most General Comprehensive and particular words that the Wisdom of that Age could devise to Comprehend all the Religious Houses Colleges Chantries Hospitals Guilds Fraternities Obits c. so Alienated The Caution used in securing the Lands not to be doubted It is not to be doubted but our Ancestors who had so lately acquired those Abby-lands and were in much more eminent danger of a Resumption than we are in this Age would be as cautious to have these Confirmed to them by all the Laws Ecclesiastical and Civil as could be contrived for their firm security And that the Legats Absolution and Remission were sufficient according to the Canon Law will not be denyed by any who hold the Authority of the Pope in such matters since the Pope Conferred upon the Cardinal his own Power to do in that affair as much as if he had been Personally present he could have done sine in one place it is expressed that the Legat acted by the (Å¿) Per Autoritatem Sacratissimi Domini nostri Papae cujus vices sustinemus Authority of the most Holy Lord the Pope whose Person Character or Power he hath for the word Vices Implys that he was his Compleat Substitute to do as much as he could do and in another place of the same Absolution he expresseth his Powers thus by (t) Authoritate Apostolica per literas c. nobis concessas qua fungimur in haec parte Apostolic Authority by the Letters of our most Holy Lord the Pope Julius the third granted to us and with which Authority we are impowered in this particular Whoever considers this Act and attentively will peruse it as it is Printed in our Statutes or is upon Record in the Roll must conclude it had all the Authority that either an Act of Parliament in England or a Constitution of the Pope by his Bull can give it and I hope I have sufficiently cleared it that by the Canon Law and continual Practice of the Pope he hath a full Power to Establish and make valid what he did in this particular SECT IX The Exceptions against this Assurance of Abby-lands to the Possessors that it was not confirmed by Pope Paul the 4th fully Answered YOU are pleased to endeavor to Invalidate the force of this Spiritual and Temporal Act Pietro Soave's Assertion that Pope Paul the 4th did not confirm Abby-lands by producing the Opinion and assertions of Father Pietro Soave Polano in his Council of Trent and one or two Gentlemens whose Sentiments you so zealously have embraced The words of Soave (a) Fol. 367. are thus rendred into English by Sir Nathaniel Brent John Peter Caraffa by the Name of Paulus 4us being Created Pope 1555. On the first Day of his Papacy the English Ambassadors from King Philip and Queen Mary entred Rome viz. The (b) Hist Reformation part 2. fol. 300. Viscount Montacute the Bishop of Ely and Sir Edward Carn there being one to Represent every State of the Kingdom sent to make their Obedience to the Pope and to obtain a Confirmation of all those Graces Cardinal Pool had granted in the Popes Name saith Dr. Burnet At the first Consistory after the (c) Idem Soave The Popes Reception of the Ambassadors from Queen Mary Coronations the Ambassadors were brought to it who prostrating themselves at the Popes Feet did in the Name of the Kingdom acknowledg the faults committed relating them all in particular for so the Pope would have it Confessing they had been ungrateful for the many benefits received from the Church and humbly craving Pardon for it The Pope did Pardon them took them up from the ground and Embraced them and to Honor their Majesties that sent them gave the Title of a Kingdom to Ireland In private Discourse saith our Author His reprehension of the proceedings in England betwixt the Pope and the Ambassadors he found fault that the Church Goods were not wholly restored saying that by no means it was to be Tolerated and that it was necessary to render all even to a Far thing because that the things that belong to God can never be applyed to Human uses and he that witholdeth the least part of them is in continual State of Damnation That if he had Power to grant them he would do it most readily for his Fatherly Affection which he beareth them and for his experience of their Filial Obedience (d) Mr. Fox saith the Pope published a Bull in Print against the restoring Abby-lands which Dr. Burnet affirms also Appendix fol. 403. but his Authority was not so large as he might prophane the things Dedicated to God and let England be assured that this would be an Anathema and a Contagion which by the just Revenge of God would always hold the Kingdom of England in perpetual Infelicity and he charged the Ambassadors to Write thereof Immediately and was not content to speak of it once but repeated it as often as there was occasion and said also plainly that Peter Pence ought to be payd as soon as might be Thus far Soave In Answer to this Cardinal (e) Lib. 13. c. 13. Cardinai Palivicino's Assertion about the confirming Religious Lands Palivicino after his Discourse of the business of the Kingdom of Ireland as to the Restitution of the Ecclesiastic Goods in England saith because in that Kingdom during the time of the Schism most grieveus Usurpation of Church-lands had been made as he had before related some by private persons others by the Crown Those were with great Liberality restored by the Queen But concerning the others i. e. those in the Subjects Possessions it was Judged profitable to use condescention lest with a pay of so great Interest they
many thought The Templars were thus suppressed and four Years after the same Pope (h) Autographis in Archivis Scaccarii The Popes Bull to confer the Templars Lands upon the Hospitalers on the 17th of the Kalends of June 7 Pontificatus directs three Bulls one to the King another to the Arch-bishops Bishops c. and a third to the Nobility Earls and Barons of England the purport of which Bulls was that having had consultation whether it were better for the Professors of the Orthodox Faith in Hierusalem and for the relief of the Holy-land to give the Goods of the Templars to the Order of the Hospitalers of St. John of Jerusalem or to unite them to an Order to be Created anew as some affirmed it to be more profitable the business was debated in the Council at Vienna and the Pope grants them to the Hospitalers the Holy Council approving it and so hath thought fit to grant apply and unite their Goods to the said Hospitalers excepting till further order those within the Kingdoms of Castile Arragon Portugal and Majorca being without the Kingdom of France So the Pope intreats and perswades them to deliver to the Master and Brethren or Priors and Praeceptors of the said Hospitalers and their Proctors all the Goods of the said Templars entirely and peaceably (i) Sic igitur in praemissis vos promptos paratos exhibeatis quod praeter retributionis aeterni praemium quod inde merebimini vobis laudis humanae cumulus augeatur and that they would in the premises shew themselves ready and prompt whereby besides the praemium of Eternal reward which they should thereby Merit an Accumulation of human praise might be encreased to them Having thus considered what the Pope did about the Templars I shall shew you what the Parliament here did After reciting Statutum de terris Templariorum 17 Ed. 2. that the Military Order of Templars ceased and was dissolved c. Great Conference was had before the King in presence of the Prelates Earls Barons c. whether the King and Lords of the Fees or others which held those Lands which were the Templars might retain them by the Law of the Realm and with safe Conscience Whereupon the greater part of the Kings Council as well the Justices as other Lay persons being Assembled together the said Justices affirmed precisely that the King and other Lords of the Fees might well and Lawfully by the Laws of the Realm retain the foresaid Lands as their Escheats in regard of the ceasing and dissolution of the Order aforesaid But because the Lands c. were given to the Brethren of the said Order for the defence of Christians and the Holy Land against Pagans and Saracens and other Enemies of Christ and Christians and the Vniversal Holy Church and Canonized to the Augmentation of the Honor of God and liberal Alms-giving It is agreed ordained and established for Law to continue for ever That neither the King nor any other Lords of the Fees aforesaid nor any other person hath Title or Right to retain the said Lands c. Notwithstanding any Law or Custom of the Realm of England Wherefore our Lord the King by the mutual assent of the Earls Barons and Noblemen aforesaid of his Regal Authority in the same Parliament hath assigned and determined to deliver all the foresaid Lands c. To the Order of the Brethren of the Hospitalers of St. John of Jerusalem In which Act we may note that it was the Opinion of the Justices that they were Escheated to the Lords of the Fee and that they were only Transferred to the Hospitalers on account that they might perform the same service as the Templars had done It is probable you will ask me what I bring this relation for Objecti ∣ on since here is no Alienation of Church Revenues but only a suppressing of one Order for the great Crimes the persons were found guilty of as is recited in the first Bull and sequestring their Lands and Goods for some years and then entirely giving them to another Order then in being But if you consider the matter aright Answer ∣ ed. you will find more in it for the King and the Nobility having got the Lands and Goods thus in their Possession made no such Restitution as you think of For (k) Dugdales origines Juridiciales Tit. Temple Ed. 2. gave the Inner and Midle Temple the very chief House of their Order in England to Thomas Earl of Lancaster who forfeiting it shortly after it was granted to Adomar de Valence Earl of Pembrook and after to Hugh le Despencer for life The Temple given to Lay-Peers which Hugh being attainted 1 E. 3. the Right thereof devolved to the Crown and then the King restored it to the Hospitalers Temple-ne-wsom given to the Lord Darcy I might instance in many other places but I shall only do it in one viz. Temple-newsom in Yorkshire the account of which among my Collections I find thus (l) Esc 21. E. 3. n. 54. Inquisition being taken after the Death of John Lord Darcy called le Pere it is thus Recorded that the Manor of Temple-newsom some time was in the Possession of the Templars and after the deposing of them the King seized it into his hands and made a composition with the Brethren Hospitalers and gave it to Mary St. Paul Countess of Pembrook for Life the reversion to John Darcy and his Heirs Besides this in the 18 (m) Cart. 18. E. 3. M. 1. of E. 3. this John Darcy le Pere had free Warren granted him in Temple-newsom and Temple-Hyrst Com. Ebor. and Torksay Com. Lanc. and Ekington Com. Derby and Kirkly Com. Not. all which unless the two last certainly belonged to the Knights Templars And I have seen sufficient evidence that Temple-newsom at least continued possessed by the Family till it was forfeited by the Attainder of Thomas Lord Darcy towards the later end of H. 8ths time Surely you must yield that Alienations and Compositions for Religious Lands have been reputed valid in former Ages when the Canons of the Church and the Popes Authority were no ways questioned by the extruded A part of Lincolns-Inn is owned (n) Bucks univer p. 1072. Part of Lincolns-Inn and Grays-Inn formerly Religious Lands to have appertained to the Dominicans and by them Alienated to Henry Lacy Earl of Lincoln and Grays-Inn was part of an Ancient Prebendary of the Cathedral of St. Pauls So that we find the very Houses which are the Nurseries and Academies of the long Robe and where we may justly expect greatest care would be taken to be secure in their right have belonged to Religious Societies or the Dignitaries of the greatest Cathedral in England To descend nearer to our times I have seen the Bull of (o) Ex Autographo in Archivis Scaccarii Dissolution of several Monasteries to endow the College of Winsor Castle and Kings College Cambridge Pope Clement the 7th