Selected quad for the lemma: authority_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
authority_n	act_n	king_n	lord_n	2,770	5	3.9050	3	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A44184	The case stated concerning the judicature of the House of Peers in the point of appeals	Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680.	1675 (1675)	Wing H2452; ESTC R23969	31,123	92

their Servants were Beaten or Wounded or Arrested the House of Commons could not themselves punish them by their own Authority but must come to the King and Lords and pray in their Aid sometimes to punish them judicially sometimes to make an Act 〈◊〉 Parlament for it as was done 5. H. 〈◊〉 the Case of Rich. Chedder Servant 〈◊〉 Tho. Brooke Knight for Sommerset●●●●e who was Assaulted and Beaten by one Iohn Savage The King by the Advice and Assent of the Lords at the Request of the Commons ordained that Savage should appeare and yield himself in the Kings Bench within a Quarter of a Year after Proclamation made for that purpose and appearing or not appearing if attainted of the Fact should pay double Damages to the Party and make Fine and Ransome at the Kings will and so to be done in time to come in like Cases And n. 74. of the same Parlament the Commons pray That all such Persons as shall Arrest any Knight or Burgess or their Servants As Parlementz venantz illeoques demurrantz a lour propres restournantz coming staying and returning not Forty dayes before the Sitting and Forty dayes after as now should pay Trebble damages to the Party grieved and make Fine and Ransome at the Kings will 31. H. 6. n. 25 26. Tho. Thorp their Speaker and Walter Raile a Member during a Prorogation had been taken in Execution and laid up in Prison when the Parlament came they wanted their Speaker and one of their Members and there-upon sent up some of their Number to the Lords to complain and desire them to set them at Liberty far from going about to do it themselves the Lords advise with the Judges and after Consultation think not fit to deliver them because they were imprisoned upon a Condemnation before Parlament when there was no Priviledge which they signifie to the Commons and charge them in the Kings Name to chuse another Speaker which they did one Sir Thomas Charlton Yet if any of the Members or their Servants were arrested within time of Priviledge then upon complaint the Lords did use to set them at Liberty as they did 8. H. 6. n. 57. William Lake Servant to William Mildred Burgess for London 39. H. 6. n. 9. Walter Clerk Burgess for Chippenham 14. E. 4. n. 55. Walter Hyde Burgess for the same place 17. E. 4. n. 55. Iohn Atwell Burgess for Exeter But the House of Commons never pretended either to Discharge any body out of Prison or to Commit any body to Prison or impose a Fine in any Case whatsoever till that 34 th of H. 8. when it was in one particular Case permitted and referred to them by the House of Peers Nor indeed can it stand with Reason and the Rules of Justice they should have such a Jurisdiction in regard they cannot give an Oath And is it rational or any wayes just that any Man should either be disseised of Property or deprived of Liberty without there be Testimony upon Oath that he hath done some thing to deserve it This seem to be against the Fundamental Laws of the Kingdome All this considered it is not probable were it true that the House of Commons did dislike that Acting of the Lords in the Case of Rich the Second to Unthrone and Imprison their Lawful King that yet out of that dislike and to avoid the present evil of being made joynt Actors in and Parties to that particular Judgement they would renounce being Parties to any and for ever debar themselves of a Power and Priviledge which did justly belong to them Nay more say they never had such a Power that it belonged onely to the King and Lords and that their part was but to sue and to petition This is hardly to be believed But who reades the Story will see that the Inference is not true and will find that at that time the Common People and even that House of Commons were full as much if not more than the Lords displeased with King Richard and favourers of Henry the 4 th who did so much rely upon the affection of the People that he brought no Military force with him out of France where he had remained in Banishment and that he landed at Rauenspurre in Holderness only with fifteen Lances but soon encreased to an Army of threescore thousand Men for as Historians say his strength was in the Hearts of the People where King Richards should have been who had so little of their Good-wills that when he was sent from Chester to London certaine Citizens had conspired to way-laye him and kill him if the Lord Major having intelligence of it had not prevented it himself riding forth with convenient company to guard him to the Tower And when the Parlament came which Henry the fourth then Duke of Lancaster called by Wri●●s of Summons in King Richards name the House of Commons was as forward as the Lords in every point for Decrying Condemning and Deposing of King Richard When his Resignation was declared unto them by the Arch-Bishop of Yorke and Bishop of Hereford whom King Richard had made his Atturneys for that purpose and they were demanded if they would assent and agree to it they with one general Voice did expresly accept and admit the same When the Articles of his Charge were read unto them they all agreed that his Crimes were notorious and he worthy for the same to be deposed of his Princely Dignity and joyned in appointing Commissioners two Knights Sir Thomas Erpinghan and Sir Tho. Grey for them to goe with two Prelates and two Temporal Lords for the Peers to the Tower to pronounce unto King Richard the Sentence of his Deposition And they promoted several things that Parlament in favour of Henry the 4 th and his Friends and to the Depression and Reproach of Richard the second and his Friends which they inserted among their Petitions which according to usage they presented at the end of the Parlament which being granted at their request were established for Acts of Parlament So as the Penner of that Paper of Reasons for a Conference was much mistaken in what he there said of the Commons being then unwilling to be made Parties to that Judgement because it was to Depose their Lawful King and sure he either never had read the Story of those times or had forgotten it otherwise he would have knowen that they were as busie Actors as the Lords in that Deposing I mean in the Prosecution of it though not in the Judgement given upon it to which as to all other Judgements they disclaimed to have any right or Interest And it is in my Opinion rather an unanswerable Argument that they had no Interest nor could have none in any Judgement their Disclaiming it at this time and upon this occasion when they knew that nothing would be done to displease them and they were sure to obtain almost any thing they would ask with reason and with any colour of a new King so

Erroneous Judgements in the Kings Bench or in the Exchequer a Writ of Error lies to bring them before the Judges in the Exchequer Chamber but it is by Act of Parliament Several Acts have been made to give that Relief First The 31. E. 3 c. 12. which gives Power to the Chancellor and Treasurer to call the Judges to assist them to examine Errors in the Exchequer Then the 27. Eliz. c. 8. which makes Judgements in the Kings Bench examinable by all the Judges of the other Courts in the Exchequer Chamber And the 31. Eliz. c. 1. which gives some further Regulation in the proceedings upon Judgements given in each of those Courts as well the Exchequer as the Kings Bench And that of the 27 th of the Queen gives the Reason in the Preamble why those Laws were made because before that time Erroneous Judgements given in the Kings Bench could only be Reformed in the High Court of Parliament and the Parliament did not so often sit in those days as formerly But there is no Act of Parliament nor no Law which gives Power to the King to enable either the Judges or any Body else out of Parliament to examine a Decree made in Chancery though it be never so Unjust and Erroneous therefore it may well be doubted if such a Commission were according to Law notwithstanding the Resolution of the Judges at that time But admit such a Commission were Legal and that the King had Power to Appoint and Authorise Persons to receive and judge of Appeals from the Chancery as he doth Delegates for Appeals from Ecclesiastical Courts which Power is given him by Act of Parliament 25. H. 8. c. 19. yet that would not conclude the House of Peers but that they might receive an Appeal even from the Sentence of those Commissioners seeing it is the Kings Supream Court of Judicature and where Henry the 8 th said upon occasion of what happened in Parlament in the Case of Ferrars that he was Informed by his Judges that he stood Highest in his Royal Estate Therefore even those Acts of Parliament that Erect a Judicature of all the Judges in the Exchequer Chamber to examine and reverse Erroneous Judgements given in the Kings Bench and in the Exchequer do not exclude an Appeal even from thence to the Parliament The words of the Statute of 27. Eliz. are these And be it further Enacted that such Reversal or Affirmation of any such former Judgement shall not be so Final but that the Party who findeth him grieved therewith shall and may Sue in the High Court of Parliament for the further and due Examination of the said Judgement in such sort as is now used upon Erroneous Judgements in the Kings Bench. And it doth naturally and necessarily follow that it must be so if the House of Peers be the Supream Court of Judicature That the High Court of Parliament is so no Man will deny It rests only to make out that by the High Court of Parliament in matter of Judicature is intended the House of Peers where such Jurisdiction is solely Lodged And that it is so it will be proved by good Authorities and by right Reason The Authorities are taken out of the Parlament Rolls which declare it throughout from the beginning to the end both in the ancient Records and in the Modern Journal Books They all speak the House of Peers that is King and Lords to be the sole Judges both of Persons and Things Criminal and Civil and the House of Commons to have no part in it at all The first Parlament Roll extant is 4. E. 3. and it begins with a Judgement given by the Peers upon Roger de Mortimer E. of March Per qoi les ditz Countes Barouns Piers come Juges du Parlement per assent du Roi en mesme le Parlement agarderent aiugerent que le dit Roger come treitor enemy du Roi du Roialme feust treyne pendu The Earls Barons and Peers as Judges of Parlament c. they are Characterised Judges of Parlament as a thing known and notorious to all Men. They at the same time exercised their Judicature upon Sir Simon de Bereford John Mautrauers Bogo de Bayons John Deueroil Thomas de Gurney and William de Ode who were Commoners and no Peers those were all Condemned but only Sir Simon de Bereford Executed for the others were not taken and none of them all neither the Earl of March nor Bereford called to Answer but the Lords were forced to Condemne them by the earnest pressing of the King which so troubled their Consciences that they presently came to an Agreement with the King not to be hereafter compelled to give Judgment upon any but their Peers which is that of 4. E. 3. n. 6. which is hinted in a Paper said to be Reasons prepared by the House of Commons for a Conference with the Lords and to be Read to their Lordships as a Matter of huge Importance to disprove the Power of the House of Peers of judging Commoners when it was only an Agreement as it were a Bargain made with the King that he should not force them to Judge any but their Peers For that was a thing they were tied unto by Law and they could not avoid it Ne soient mes tenuz ne chargez a rendre juggementz sur autres are the words of the Record I see not what great Matter can be built upon this President to dispossess them of their Judicature It was a voluntary Act of the Lords at that time even an effect of their Indignation against themselves for having yielded to doe an unjust thing at the pressing Importunity of the King to Condemne Men unheard and not called to Answer for themselves as the Lords themselves confessed 28. E. 3. when an Act of Parlament passed to reverse this Judgement But that they did afterwards commonly judge Commoners in Criminal Causes is very apparent That very Parlament notwithstanding that Agreement made Sir Thomas Berkley was tried before them by a Jury for the death of Edward the 2 d and acquitted The House of Commons themselves 1. R. 2. n. 30. come and desire the Lords to exercise this Judicature upon such as had betraied Forts and Towns into the hands of Enemies the words are Supplie est per les Coēs que touz ceux qont renduz perduz Chastelz on Villes per de la per verray desauce de Capitaine puissent estre a response a ceste Parlement solonc lour desert forsement puniz per agard des Srs. Baronage c. That they may by the Judgement of the Lords and the Baronage be severely Punished according to their deserts The Lords accordingly cause to be brought before them William de Weston for Surrendring the Castle of Outhrewick and John de Gomeniz for Surrendring the Town and Castle of Arde and Adjudged them to Death The same Parlament Alice Perrers who had been in high favour with Edward