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A85407 Peace protected, and discontent dis-armed. Wherein the seventeen queries (with the addition of three more, postscript-wise) lately published, partly to allay the discontents of some about the late revolution of government, but more especially to guide every mans feet into the way of peace, as well his own, as the publique, are reinforced with replies unto, and animadversions upon, such answers, which some (it seems) have given unto them, to invalidate their purport and intent. Together with four new queries superadded. By the author of the said seventeen queries. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665.; Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1654 (1654) Wing G1188; Thomason E732_27; ESTC R202310 55,941 80

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the hands of wicked men at least not in wickednesse Yet to speak the truth my arch-design as well in this as in all the rest of the Queries was not to strengthen the hand of any magistrate good or bad but to strengthen the hand of the great body of the people in the land to that subjection under the present Government which upon good grounds and next to u●questionable I know w●ll be if universally exhibited at least their civill happinesse and peace 5. And lastly Whereas I am charged to make their heart sad whom God hath not sadded my plea is that certeinly God is willing that their heart should be made sad who will be sadded with the truth yea in as much as he is the Author not onely of the truth but of all seasonable speakings of the truth he may very properly and truly be said to make the heart sad of all such who a●e sadded by such speakings of the truth The heart of the Corinthians was made sorry or sad by that Epistle which Paul wrote unto them concerning their incestuous member butought Paul in this case to be challenged that he made the heart of those sad whom God had not sadded If either the Answerer or any other in his behalf can fairly shew and prove that any thing asserted or necessarily supposed in any of the Queries is either contrary to the Truth or unseasonably delivered the Author is well content that all that shall die by the hand of the Demonstration neither shall he make lamentation over it but rather over his own ignorance or inconsideratenesse in delivering it Four New QUERJES super-added to the former I. WHether are not the just rights liberties and Interest of the people better and more clearly asserted and secured unto them by the present Government and by the published articles and constitutions hereof then ever they were formerly Or is not the truth hereof in all the materiall points or parts of Government as in the choice of their supreme or legislative Authority I mean their Parliaments from time to time the absolutenesse of this Authority being disincumbered and freed from the obstructions super-intendencie of a negative voice in another in the choice of the members of the council of State for the future and after the conveening of the next Parliament and so again in the Militia with some other particulars is not this truth I say that the liberties and interest of the people are in all these particulars with as much care wisdome and saithfulnesse of contrivance as readily can be imagined provided for by the constitutions of the present Government demonstrated above all reasonable contradiction in a discourse lately published under the title of A true state of the case of the Commonwealth II. Whether was there or is there any other way course or means so promising in the eye of humane probability and discourse whereby the Army and the Principal members thereof who stood and still stand most signally and solemnly engaged by many promises and publique declarations to contribute their utmost endeavours to settle the Nation in righteousnesse freedome and peace might or yet may performe their ingagements in this kind to the best advantage as by reducing the Nation and Common-wealth thereof to that form or kind of Government unto which by the good hand of divine Providence it is now reduced considering how un-successfull in respect of any competent satisfaction given to the Nation our late Parliaments have been Or in case the late Government by Parliaments onely continuing the tranquillity peace and safety of the Nation or the liberties of the people of God in it should have miscarried or deeply suffered thereby could the Army or the said Principal members of it have given any tolerable account either to God or men of their oscitancy neglect or sitting still considering 1. Under how many sacred ingagements they were to do their uttermost for the prevention of these evils and 2. That God had now entrusted them with an opportunity of great hope for their prevention as viz. directing them to some such change of the Government as that which is now in being Or in case it should be supposed that it is not the sence or judgement of other men that the Government now erected is any whit more promising of such a prevention then that by Parliaments onely however our late Parliaments have not prospered in the work is it reasonable or meet to desire that the Army and the chief heads thereof who were contrary-minded should walk by the light of other men in opposition to their own III. Whether is it the kind or form of the present Government or any excesse or extent of power or revenue state-splendor or the like conferred upon one man at which the dis-satisfied or the greater part of them find themselves so much aggrieved and discontented as the Person in whom the supreme place or office in this Government is vested Or would they not have been very well apaid and satisfied had there been some man according to their own hearts and of whom they might have had hopes that he would haue fulfilled all their pleasure invested with all that dignity power and all other State accommodations which are now cast upon him who hath the preheminence in the present Government yea though the terms and constitutions of the Government had been the same which now they are IIII. Whether was there the same reason to plead subjection to the power of the late King especially when the Parliament had declared themselves in opposition to him which there is now to plead subjection to the present power Considering 1. That the soveraignty or supremacy of power was never regularly or according to the law of nature vested in the person of the King but in the people whose lawfull agents and trustees the Parliament were 2. That the people to whom the supremacie of Authority and power as hath been said regularly appertaineth having in Parliament questioned their cheif Steward or Servant the King for male-administration of his trust and power and declared themselves in Arms against him he the said King was not in a plenary or peaceable possession of that power which had been committed unto or vested in him whereas the power vested at present in him who is the head or Cheif in the Government that now is is fully peaceably quietly and without any forceible contest or opposition possest by him Or in case it be or were lawfull when and whilest two adverse powers are st●iving for mastery in a Nation to comport with and strengthen the hand of that against the other the prevailing of which he truly judgeth to be most expedient for the publique doth it follow from hence that therefore it is lawfull to deny subjection unto such a power which God so farre countenanceth and blesseth as not to suffer any competritresse to rise up with any strength considerrble against it Or had it been regular and justifiable for the power
Peace Protected AND Discontent Dis-armed WHEREIN The seventeen Queries with the addition of three more Postscript-wise lately published partly to allay the discontents of some about the late Revolution of Government but more especially to guide every mans feet into the way of Peace as well his own as the publique are reinforced with Replies unto and Animadversions upon such Answers which some it seems have given unto them to invalidate their purport and intent Together with four new Queries superadded By the Author of the said seventeen Queries Every Kingdom divided against it self is brought to desolation Mat. 12. 25. The wisdom which is from above is first pure then Peaceable Gentle and easie to be intreated James 3. 17. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Chrysost. Semper enim sunt tumultuosi spiritus qui regnum Christi non bene extolli credunt nisi aboleantur omnes terrenae potestates Calvin ad Roman 13. 1. Non si quid turbida Roma Elevet accedas Persius London Printed by I. Macock for H. Cripps and L. Lloyd and are to be sold at their shop in Popes-head Alley 1654. To the Reader Good Reader THere were a while since a few Queries delivered out with the right hand unto the people of this Nation but it seems that by many they have been received with the left It was Davids complaint that for his love men became his adversaries and rewarded him evil for his good a And the Apostle Paul was jealous that he should be looked upon as an Enemy by the Galathians for telling and teaching them the truth Yea the Lord Christ himself by reason of his familiar and free converse with men although it were in due order to the saving of their Souls yet purchased unto himself from many the blot and imputation of being a man gluttonous and a Wine-bibber a friend of Publicans and sinners b Notwithstanding he had this to ballance his loss in this kind that his Wisdom in such deportments of himself was justified by those who were capable of the true nature thereof and of the express and clear tendency in it to those worthy ends projected by it But Wisdom saith he is justified of her children I am all thoughts made that there is no man of a single eye that can discern any thing in the said Queries of an oblique or ignoble tendency or which comporteth with any end whereof such a man who dayly expecteth to appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ needs to be ashamed or which savoureth of any thing in the Author but of a publique spirit and Christian desire to see the Jerusalem of his God in the Land of his pilgrimage in peace and prosperity all his days and in this condition to transmit it to posterity Notwithstanding some upon consultation had with some froward and seducing Oracle have pretended to see a Vision of darkness in those Queries by which they have been admonished to pronounce this hard sentence against their Author that he is a Time-Server a Worshipper of the Greatness of this World If by Time-serving they mean a subjecting a mans self to serve with all diligence and faithfulness the common Interest of the men of the times wherein he liveth as well Great as small as well high as low rich as poor I plead Guilty to the Indictment I have in this sence been a Time-Server of a long time well nigh ever since I was capable of such a service But if by Time-serving be meant any unchristian or unmanlike compliance either with the head or tail of this world for any secular accommodation or Interest of mine own I can wash my hands in the Laver of Davids Innocency and with an erect Conscience profess and say They lay to my charge things that I know not And herein I suppose that all those who have fully known my principles and practise from the beginning will be my Compurgators This I confess that from first to last I have stood close and fast by the present Authority for the time being and have contended with the best of the strength of my understanding for an universal subjection of the Nation in all things lawful unto it When there were two Authorities conflicting that of the late King the other of the Parliament in which case I judged it not meet either to neutralize or amphibolize I joyned the small strength of my hand with that which upon consideration I judged best pleadable and withall most promissory of Civil yea and of Religious Happiness also unto the Land To this Authority I have constantly adhered all along without the least regret or relenting not only in the lowest ebb thereof when its Competitress like a stood was ready to have overwhelmed it but likewise under all that hard measure and those discouraging and sad requitals wherewith it recompenced all my service and faithfulness unto the Interest of it For as on the one hand I still was a zealous Assertor of this Authority and compelled as far as my tongue pen or example had any compulsive power in them all sorts of people in the Land to submit for conscience sake unto it so on the other hand I was as zealously faithful in declaring and asserting the just and lawful bounds of this Authority testifying and perswading it to contain it self within its own sphere witnessing and protesting that if it should prove like Jordan in the time of Harvest and overflow its banks this would endanger the cutting off of the waters and laying the channel of it dry which thing also we all know is come to pass now some while since And though I love not to be too positive in matters of this nature yet I very much incline to conceive that one Reason why God took no more pleasure in the Parliament of the last sitting was their assuming of a Power notoriously incompetent to them as viz. to make that Adultery in Parents which God never made Adultery and that illegitimacy in children which God never made such yea which common reason and equity might have taught them not to be such Yea in these cases they assumed a Power which we may say without the least reflexion of dishonour upon God or the straitening of his Prerogative is incompetent unto God himself For God cannot make things to be such or such without that which is essentially and formally requisite to make them such He cannot make a man without a reasonable Soul nor a wall white without whiteness nor that to be fraud or deceit which in the essence of it is honesty and plain dealing so neither that to be adultery which is naturally and essentially an honest and lawful conjunction If they had repealed the former Law which with a like inconsiderateness made adulteries of such marriages which were not solemnized by the Clergy then so called and the children born in such marriages illegitimate and had only provided by mulcts and penalties or what other means they judged meet against
all clandestine and unworthy proceedings in the affair leaving the transaction of the solemnity free for persons of any rank or quality without making that Adultery which God and the Law of Nature make an honest and honourable conjunction or that illegitimacy which these make an honest and blameless propagation they had done well and worthily But now by appropriating the business we speak of unto Justices of Peace upon the same or like account on which it was before appropriated to the Clergy is to cleave a bad knot with a wedg as bad as it and though not formally or intentionally yet constructively and consequentially to claim a Power beyond or above the Power of God himself a claim against which it was no otherwise like but that God himself would declare first or last Men in places of Power and Authority can hardly be sufficiently jealous over themselves lest they conceit their Power to be larger and more extensive then it is or that in the administration and exercise of it they do not entrench upon some or other of the appropriate Royalties of God But my faithfulness in endeavoring to preserve that Authority I speak of from dissolution and destruction by it self and its own exorbitancies was of so hard a resentment with it that it did not only quench all remembrance and regard of all those other services wherein I unfeignedly and with all my might sought to prevent the disturbance and annoyance of it by other men but further kindled a spirit of unkindness yea of frowardness and hard that I say not unjust proceedings in the brest therof against me For upon this account I cannot but presume it was that I was so generally frowned upon and smitten with the tongue by this Authority that some of my Writings as I was inform'd very narrowly escaped the double doom of the hand of the cōmon Hangman and of the fire that I was to my no small trouble time after time summoned before the Consistory sirnamed the Cōmittee for Plundred Ministers and this by the procurement abetment and contrivance of some of the Members themselves of the Authority I speak of that here I was coarsly handled disgracefully entreated my Accusers though but few and less considerable countenanced my Friends who appeared with me and for me neglected and that at last I was compelled to drink the cup prepared only for Malignant Ministers so called in those days being not only sequestred from my Living the best means I had for the support of my self wife and seven children but denyed the liberty so much as ●f preaching in my wonted place Nor was there as far as my memory is able to recollect the terms and circumstances of these high proceedings against me any ground or reason to this day given by the said Committe of that so severe a sentence awarded against me This I verily beleeve that from the first to the last of the sitttng of that Parliament there was no example of any Minister in the Land who had so constantly and cordially and with so much activeness in the promotion of their Cause adhered to them as was and is sufficiently known yea and was acknowledged by some of themselves that I had done and upon whom they had so little to charge otherwise who received the like measure from their hand I confess that after several years total Sequestration between four and five as I remember the Presbyterian Interest somewhat damping I remember not now upon what revolution or occasion and the Person hitherto gratified with the hard measure measured unto me in my Sequestration falling under some Parliamentary dislike with much ado I was again restored to my place in Colmanstreet But as the saying was Jam seges est ubi Troia fuit at my return I found only a piece of a Skeleton or bare Anatomy of those Means which at my enforced departure I left a fair and full Body The chief men upon the place during my absence had it seems irrevocably transferred their devotion-benevolence together with their devotion it self in hearing upon him who had all that while served their turns and his own in my Pulpit who what he wan in this kind wears to this day So that if I should estimate the damage and loss I sustained by the hard measure of my Sequestration without valuing the disparagement and disrepute accompanying it at 500l I should I beleeve cut short the account by the one half Notwithstanding all these grand disobligements and Dragon-like dealings with me yet did I not behave my self either frowardly or faultringly in that Covenant of loyalty and service wherein God and mine own Judgment and Conscience had engaged me unto the men who thus requited me So that if I have been a Time-Server in the sence of my Accusers I have served very hard Masters from whom I never received any thing for my work or service but only in some such coyn wherein Paul five times received forty save one of the Jews a Nor have I yet ever known unless by theory and hear-say that the Great Men of the times have or have had so much as the value of the ninth part of a farthing wherewith to reward the services of those who have served them But I know by experience that they have had rods yea scorpions wherewith to chastise their servants without a cause Nor do I now write these things either out of any effeminate or querulous disposition or out of a desire or expectance that the Masters of the present times should repair the breaches made upon me by their Predecessors the Masters of the times lately past but rather out of a desire to stop the mouth of that unworthiness which is opened against me as if I had thriven in the world so well by serving the times formerly that still I meant to follow the same occupation The truth is that I do intend and am resolved God assisting me to serve the present times upon the same account and terms on which I served the former yea and judg my self bound in conscience both to God and my generation so to do There shall be no more Wars in the Land nor bloodsheds nor tumults nor plunderings nor depopulations in my days no nor yet in the days after me as far as I shall be able whilest I live by my uttermost interposures to prevent them But as Daniel though free and willing to gratifie King Belshazzar in his desire yet spake thus unto him Let thy gifts be to thy self and give thy rewards to another b in like manner I can and shall be free and faithful to serve men in Authority and in them the Nation and yet leave them at perfect liberty to dispose as well their faces as their places to whom they please I desire neither but in order to their own better service and the service of those whom they are bound to serve as well as I and if they please to deny me both I shall serve them
as well as I can without them It may be it is a Maxim of Policy amongst States-men to make use of their countenances and opportunities of preferment as ordinary men make use of their money who do not bestow or lay it out upon what they have already but upon what they want and desire to have and withall have reason to beleeve that they are not like to have without it Men of ordinary discretion cannot be offended that rattles and babies should be given unto froward children to content and keep them quiet and it is the sence of more then one though I am neu●ral in the conjecture that the discontent and frowardness of the Paul figuratively so called in the Answer to the second Query might have been way-layed and prevented by a rattle when time was put into his hand They are or may be good horses and good mules whose mouths may be though they must be held with bit and bridle lest they come near thee viz. with their mouths to bite and mischief thee as Janius and Tremellius gloss the place Psal. 32. 9. And they possibly may be none of the worst men for the use and service of a State whose mouths must be held with golden bits and bridles from falling foul upon them My great design in giving unto Cesar that uttermost of what I know to be Cesars is that hereby I may purchase {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} so much the better and freer standing the more equitable liberty to deny unto Cesar or take from him that which I know is not his when ever he assumes it I have heard it from the mouth of a Souldier in our late Wars as a Maxim in Martial Discipline Pay well and hang well And Job stopt the mouth of his discontented wife with this demand What shall we receive good at the hand of God and shall we not receive evil Yea God himself by allowing the marriage bed as honourable invests himself with so much the greater equitableness of power to judg whoremongers and adulterers with severity Heb. 13. 4. And if Cesar who ever he be careth not to be served upon such an account as that specified he must wait for his relief until I be dead For I am resolved to serve him and yet not to serve him upon any other terms whilest I live But Reader I have prefaced above the proportion of the discourse I have nothing further to inform but that a Friend of mine presenting me with the sight of some brief Answers sent unto him unto my Queries lately published I conceived it might be of some concernment to further satisfaction briefly to vindicate the truth of what is constructively asserted for there is little or nothing asserted formally in them against the allegations suggested in the said Answers which I think are as material though brief at least some of them as can readily be made and withall to add three or four Queries more upon a new account Is it not good if peace and truth be in thy days and mine who am Thy Friend heart and Soul in the Truth JOHN GOODWIN From my Study in Colemanstreet London March 6. 1653. PEACE PROTECTED AND Discontent Dis-armed Query I. WHether doth not the Apostle expresly affirm Rom. 13. 1. That the Powers that be i. whatsoever they be and however in respect of second means compassed attained or procured by men who stand possessed of them are ordained by God i. orderly regularly wisely righteously in respect of his providential interposure about the vestment of them disposed of and lodged in the persons whosoever they be who are the present Ministers or Administrators of them Or were not the highest Powers in the world when the Apostle spake this viz. That the Powers that be are {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} ordained of God vested in Nero not only a Monster of men as he is commonly termed in respect of his bloody cruelty unnaturall lusts c. but likewise advanced to the Empire neither by the orderly way of the suffrage or election of the people nor yet by the less disorderly way of the choyce of the Roman Senate but partly by the wickedness of his mother Agrippina who caused her husband Claudius to dis-inherit his own son Britannicus to make way for the Adoption of her son this Nero partly by the over-ruling interposure of the Cohorts and rest of the Souldiery The Senate saith the Story as men affrighted with amazement not once contradicting the same To this Query some answer That the Powers that be are indeed ordered by God even when these Powers do give their power and strength to the Beast and make War with the Lamb Yet have they been and ought to be in their so doing witnessed against by those that are called and chosen and faithful Rev. 17. 12 13. But this Answer 1. Reacheth not the intent or purport of the Query For this querieth not about the unlawful or sinful exercise of any authoritative Power of which only the Answer speaketh or whether this may not yea and ought not to be witnessed against by those who are called unto it but of the Power it self vested in the supreme Magistrate considered simply as Power and as disposed unto him by God This Power ought not to be resisted or witnessed against by any person whatsoever nor can it be either resisted or witnessed against but by resisting and witnessing against the Ordinance of God The Kings of the Earth who give their power to the Beast are not to be witnessed against for being Kings nor for their accepting of Kingly Power supposing it duly cast upon them but only for the male-administration of this power Yea the power of the Beast himself whoever or whatsoever be meant by the Beast whereby he now maketh War against the Lamb but might if he pleased employ and use for the Lamb is not to be witnessed against by any man as being the Ordinance of God but only the enormous and most desperate abuse of this Power in fighting against the Lamb which is the Ordinance of the Devil And when the Beast by being witnessed against in the wicked exercise of his Power comes through the just Judgment of God in putting it into the hearts of his servants to make War against him to be despoyled and deprived of his Power his Power properly is not resisted by these men but only the horrid abuse of this Power which abuse the Justice of God judgeth meet to punish and to prevent for the future by the utter subversion and ruine of it And the reason which the Apostle gives why Christ shall put down all Rule and all Authority and Power before his delivering up the Kingdom to God the Father is because he must reign till he hath put all his enemies under his feet 1 Cor. 15. 24. 25. which plainly shews that Christ hath no quarrel no controversie with or against any Power as such but only as bent and
acted in the exercise of it against him Therefore they who clamour or witness against any Power simply as such resist the Ordinance of God and they who witness against any such Power which is subservient to the affairs of Jesus Christ in the world resist not only the Ordinance but the Interest also of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ Query II. Whether is it any way necessary in point of reason or conscience that they who quietly obey and submit unto the present power or the persons actually invested with Authority over them should either justifie approve or own the termes method way means or manner either of their attaining unto or their investiture with this Authority and power Or did the Apostle Paul justifie or approve of the way or means by which Nero obtained the Imperiall Dignity in submiting and appealing unto him or unto his Authoritie yea or in his injoyning all Christians as we heard to be subject unto him and this not only for wrath but for conscience sake b Or do we ever read in the Scriptures of any person either punished threatned or reproved by God for doing things simply and in themselves lawful at the command or in obedience unto any Magistrate or Person seated and setled in Authoritie how unduly so ever advanced to his seate of power To this Query some judg this a sufficient Answer let the Reader judg between the Query and the Answer whether if the one be an Harp the other be not an Harrow We will suppose Paul and Phelimon engaged the one by War the other by Faith and Prayer in the Work of this present generation If Phelimon conquer and take the power Paul will expect that Phelimon should so behave himself both in the taking of the power and in his using of it as doth become a Christian and the promise he is under and not so as did Nero or William the Conqueror or others who went a warfare for themselves and did so declare it 1. The Query doth not at all enquire after what manner or upon what terms Phelimon upon his conquest taketh the power nor doth it suppose him to have taken it orderly as neither on the other hand doth it suppose the contrary but purposely decl●●●th his question as impertinent to the business which it the Qu●ry desireth to promote 2. Neither doth it at all query whether Phelimon useth not the power wel which he hath taken there having been little or no opportunity to judg of this when the Query was drawn up But 3. The Query only interrogates whether Paul may not with a good Conscience quietly submit and subject himself to that Power which Phelimon hath taken unto himself whether he hath taken it orderly and duly yea or no And supposeth that Paul the Apostle the true Paul when he lived did submit yea and enjoyn submission unto all Christians unto such a Power which was altogether as disorderly and unworthily taken as Phelimon with all the assistance of envy or dis-ingenuity can be imagined to have taken his But concerning this the Answer is profoundly silent Yet 4. Concerning Phelimons as well taking as using of the power now vested in him if we had the true Paul Paul the Apostle Paul the infallible in stead of a personated Paul to determine the question whether Phelimon hath done well and like a Christian or otherwise either in taking or using his power we should have cause to reverence his decision yea though Phelimon should fall by it But in case Paul so called shall arbitrate the case against Phelimon unless he can satisfie us that he hath ploughed with the heyfer of Paul truly so called about the grounds of his arbitration we are Judgment and Conscience-free from his decisions 5. Whether Phelimons taking the power was any ways repugnant to any promise he was under is the consideration of another Query following not at all moved in this 6. And lastly If by the work of this present generation the Answer meaneth either such a work which is incumbent by way of duty upon the present generation or such a work which is beneficial or commodious for this generation although the former and the latter be materially the same I do not yet understand how Paul is engaged either by Faith or prayer about it If we may estimate the work about which he is engaged by the tenor and tendency of his actings it is a work as well of sin as of sorrow to the present generation Query III. Whether is it not the gracious Counsel and intent of God in declaring That whatsoever Powers be they are ordained by him as we have heard and again that ALL that are in Authority should be prayed and Interceded for yea and thanks also given for them c. Whether I say is it not the gracious intent of God in these and many other like Declarations made by him to provide for the peace quiet of States Kingdoms and Common-wealths by cutting off al occasions and pretexts from the people of quarrelsome disputes about the Rights and Titles of those who are in present possession of the Soveraign or ruling powers a And do not all they reject this gracious counsell of God against themselves and against their Nation and labour to defeat it who set themselves with all their might yea with more might it is to be feared then their own to raise a Spirit of disloyaltie and disobedience in the people unto the present Government and Governours upon pretence That those who are in power did by undue and unworthy means possess and invest themselves with it The intent of God in that counsel by Paul 1 Tim. 2. 1 2. is that supplications prayers and giving of thanks should be used as a first or chief means to carry on the Gospel work committed to Paul and by him given in charge to Timothy And all sorts of men both those in Authority and others should be interceded for or given thanks for as they are Opposers or Accepters of the Gospel And all sorts of those in Authority are no more to be given thanks for then all sorts of men are 2. It needs to be no mans doubt but that all the Powers of the four first Monarchies are all of them Vsurpers even from Nimrod the mighty Hunter who was the first to the little Horn who hath the eyes of a man and is the last 3. Have not the servants of God who have held forth his testimony concerning their work in their present generation been always counted movers of Sedition and disobedient to Authority when yet they have walked in the power of the Spirit of God Ezra 4. 15. Luke 23. 2. John 19. 12. Acts 24. 12. Although here be words enough whereof in respect of their numbers to make many Answers yet here is no word that savors of any steady or direct Answer to the Query This enquires after these two things 1. Whether it was not the
Powers be more pregnantly unquestionably yea or more dangerously and mischievously perpetrated and committed then when those who ought to live in subjection under them are day after day openly solicited tempted urged yea upon Religious pretences conjured to deny or refuse this subjection unto them and are passionately and as it were out of an extasie of zeal born in hand that whilest they break so signal a Command of God they do him worthy service This Query it seems hath by an equivocal generation begotten two more which Conjunctim call themselves an Answer to it The former this Did the Authors hear those Teachers which he doth defame The latter this Doth the Author judg that all commands of all Superiors are always to be obeyed Surely no for then they should be found transgressors who shall exercise the vengeance written against Babylon when the kings of the earth their Superiors shall b wail her burning as wholy avers to those providences they also who shall come at call to the Supper of the great God to eat the flesh of Kings and Captains c. To the former of these Questions I answer 1. That it rejoyceth in a thing of nought building it self upon the sand in ead of a foundation and supposing that there are some Teachers in being whom the Author of the Queries defameth For if there be any such Teachers now upon the stage whose protraicture is truly drawn in the last recited Query they cannot be said to be defamed thereby unlesse men may be defamed by the truth Men may be ill reported of by the truth It is no good report I hear of you said Eli to his sons but John the Baptist did not I conceive defame the Pharisees and Sadduces when he stiled them a generation of vipers nor did Christ defame Herod when he called him a Fox nor Paul Nero when he termed him a Lion Or if there be no such Teachers amongst us as that Query purporteth there is no ground to complain that any are defamed by it For those who are not such it neither maketh nor supposeth to be such Or if there be any who are in part though not altogether such as are there represented and so likely in time to prove altogether such the Query is so farre from defameing these that it is of a very proper calcalution to prevent their infamie at least in the growth and increase of it by presenting them as in a glasse with such a face the deformity whereof they cannot light●y but abhorre and so be far from makeing their own like unto it Review also the latter part of the Reply made to the answer of the 9 Query 2. Whereas the said former Question interrogates Did the Author hear those Teachers c. I answer the Author heartily wisheth that there were no such teachers as are there described either for him or any others to hear Yea he hopeth that there neither are nor ever will be such Teachers whose unworthinesse will hold out length and breadth with that description only he is more then jealous that though he knoweth no men amongst us yet there are sturdy striplings amongst us likely in a short time to make men of that generation Or if the said interrogatory catcheth at any such advantage as this that the Author of the Queries must needs goe beyond the line of his Christian commission in reproving or blameing such Teachers from whom he hath not personally heard the things for which he reproveth them his Answer is that an accusa●ion even against an Elder may under two or three witnesses be entertained how much more under double and treble the number But more of this in our progresse The latter of the two questions may well be a question indeed For doubtlesse the Author is every whit as farre as the Answerer if not somewhat further from judgeing that all commands of all superiors are alwaies to be obeyed Nor can he well imagine why such a question as this should be put By resisting the powers neither doth the Apostle nor the Query understand a non-complying obedientially or practically with all those that are in power in whatsoever they shall command I never knew nor heard of so much as any one man who was thus minded but by the phrase of resisting the powers viz. which are and are {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} sovereign or supreme the Apostle questionlessely meaneth a denying subjection to these powers as such 1. a refuseall of obeying them in such commands which they have a right o● authority to impose upon men which right extendeth onely to things lawfull For no Power or powers whatsoever have any right to impose any such command upon any person which the person commanded hath not a right or liberty from God to obey T is true the powers we speak of may be resisted in a worse sence then that now opened as viz. when they are not onely rejected in their lawful commands but their subversion and ruine attempted also whether by force or by politique insinuations or counsels He that either disobeys the lawful commands of the powers that are or by force endevours or by subtilty contrives their abolition may very properly be said to resist the powers But 2. The instance of the execution of the vengeance upon Babylon is very improper to prove that Superiours may be resisted in unlawfull commands For evident it is from Rev. 17. 16. that those who shal execute the vengeance that is written against Babylon shall have the concurrence of their Kings or Princes with them therein And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast interpreted to be the ten Kings who at first gave their power and strength to the beast and made warre against the Lambe v. 13. 14 these viz. amongst them some if not all of them shall hate the whore shall make her desolate and shall eat her flesh and shall burn her with fire And for the Kings of the Earth spoken of chap. 18. 9. here said to have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her and to bewail and lament for her when they behold the smoak of her burnings c. they either are such of the former Kings who shall not joyn with their fellowes in hateing the whore makeing her desolate and naked eating her flesh c. but persist in their adulterous league with her to the very last or else they may be the Cardinalls and Great Bishops of the Antichristian Sea who in respect of their wealth power pomp and external magn●ficance may be termed Kings or Princes of the earth Query XII Whether do not all Christians stand expresly charged to make supplications prayers intercessions and giving of thanks as for all men so more especially for Kings and ALL that are in Authority that they may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty If thus do not such Christians notoriously prevaricate with the scope and intent of their own supplications
it self of the people in Parliament how much lesse for any other either it selfe to disobey or to countenance or abet disobedience in any others to the Authority of the said King in his lawful command in case he had walked in the execution of his trust power with that due comportment with the publique good which became him Or had the Trustees of the people in Parliament been responding or faithfull to their trust had they interrupted opposed or dissolved such a Government under which the Nation had lived and was in all good probability likely still to live in wealth and peace with the enjoyment of all their just liberties and freedoms ERRATA Page 10. l. 8. read Junius 25. l. 29. r. withall 29. l. 6. r. palpably 35. l. 11. r. superstitions l. 33. r. reason 39. l 8. r. ceasing l. 21. r. whic● l. 29. r. he 41. l. 3. r. and l. 12. r. adulter● 43. l 13. r. Author l. 26. r. portraicture 44. l. 2. r. calculatio● 47. l. 3. r. businesse 53. l. 21. r. this 54. l. 11. dele and 55. l 32. r. m●y be 58 l. 31. r. they build groūd their l. 39 r. passible l. 3. dele from 61. l. 21. dele that 64. l. 3. r. prevent FINIS a Psa. 109. 4 5. b Mat. 11. 19. a 2 Cor 12. 24 b Dan. 5. 17. Answer Reply Act. 25. 10. 11. b Rom. 13. 9. Answer Reply or Anim adversiō a Ac sane hoc verbo mihi videtur Apostolus voluisse tollere frivolā hominū curiositatē qui saepe solent inquirere quo jure adepti fuerint potestatem qui rerum potiuntur Satis autem nobis esse debet quod praesunt Non enim conscenderunt sua ipsi virtute hoc fastigium sedmanu Domini sunt impositi Calv. ad Rom. 13. 1. Cum igitur quaeritur cui parendum non est spectandum qualis sit qui potestatem excercet nec quo jure vel injuria quis potestatem invaserit quave ratione eam administret sed tantum si potestatem habeat Si enim quis potestate pollet jam indubitatum est illum à Deo eam potestatem accepisse M. Bacer in Rom. 13. 1. Answer Reply and Animadversion a 1 Per. 1. 2. c Gal. 5. 19 20 d Su●t eni● semper ●umultuosi spiritus qui regnum Christi non bene extolli credunt ●isi aboleantur omn●s terr●nae potestates nec ●●ertate per ips●m data se●●ui 〈…〉 si quodvis humanae servitut●● jugum excusseriat Cal 〈…〉 ad Rom. 13. 1. a Omnis lex ord●natur ad communem hominum salutem in tantum obtinet vim rationem Legis secundum vero quod ab hoc deficit virtutem obligandi non habet Vnde Juris peritus dicit Quod nulla ratio juris aut aequitatis benignitas patitur ut quae salubriter pro salute hominum introducuntur ca nos duriori interpretatione contra ipsorum commodum perducamus ad severitatem Contingit autem multoties quod al quid observari communi saluti est utile ut in pl●ribus quod tamen aliqu●bus casibus est maxime nocivum Aq● 12. q. 96. a. 6. Vnde si emergat casus in quo observatio talis Legis sit damnosa communi saluti non est observanda Ibid. Necessitas dispensationem habet annexam quia necessitas non subditur legi Ibid. b James 2. 4 Answer Reply and Animadversion By wrath so hindered is the mind That truth it cannot see or find Mic. 2 11. c Ad hoc quod teneatur ●omofacere quod promisit requiritur quod omnia immutata permaneant alioquin nec fuit mendax in promittendo quia promisit quod habebat in mente subintellectis debitis conditionibus Nec etiam est infidelis non implendo quod promisit quia eaedem conditiones non extant Senec● D Benefic l. 4. c. 34. Ad quintum decendum quod ille qui aliquid promittit si habeat animum faciendi quod promittit non mentitur quia non loquitur contraid quod gerit in mente Si ve●o non faciat quod promisit viditur 〈…〉 fideliter agere per hoc quod animum mutat Potest tamen excusari ex duobusVno modo si promisit id quod manifeste est illicitum quia promittendo p●●cavit mutando autem prepositum bene facit Alio modo si sint mutatae conditiones personaram negotiorum Vnde Apostolus non est mentitus qui non ivit Corinthum quo se iturum esse promiserat ut dicitur 2 Cor. 1. Aqu. 22. q. 110. a. 3. Answer Reply Animadversiō a Deut 16. 19. a Dan. 2. 21. b Ier. 3. 14. Answer Reply and Animadversion a Num. 14. 4 b a Gal. 1. 23. Answer Reply Animadversiō a 1 Thes. 5. 18 Answer Rely and Animadversion Answer Reply Anim adversiō a Exod. 2● 28 Answer Reply Animadverti Answer Reply Animadversi Answer Reply Animadversiō a Jud. 1. 6. b Tim. 3 4. c 2 Pet. 2. 10 d Jam. 3. 17. e Jam. 3 14. 15. Answer Reply animadver. Answer Reply animadver. a Act. 7. 22. b Act. 9. 15. c Act. 5 34. d Act. 22 3. a Act. 26. 11 Answer Reply Animadversiō a 2 Tim. 2. 24. 25. c. Answer Reply Animadversiō Answer Reply animadver. Answer Reply animadver. Answer Reply Animadversiō