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A17576 The pastor and the prelate, or reformation and conformitie shortly compared by the word of God, by antiquity and the proceedings of the ancient Kirk, by the nature and use of things indifferent, by the proceedings of our ovvne Kirk, by the vveill of the Kirk and of the peoples soules, and by the good of the commonvvealth and of our outvvard estate with the answer of the common & chiefest objections against everie part: shewing vvhether of the tvvo is to be follovved by the true Christian and countrieman. Calderwood, David, 1575-1650. 1628 (1628) STC 4359; ESTC S107402 71,807 74

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of excesse and superfluitie And he hath but one body so he undertaketh but one Cure where he must be resident and one Kirk living which for feare of the censures of the Kirk albeit he would he dares not delapidate but must leaue the Kirk patrimonie in as good or better case then he found it at his entry The PRELATE hath a Lords rent out of the revenewes of the Kirk which at the first was destinate and should be employed for better uses and this he hath not for the service of the Kirk but partly for his unlawfull attending civill affaires and partly for bearing out a Lordly porte in himselfe his Ladie their children and followers He uniteth Kirks farre distant to maki the morsell the greater for his wide gorge he alloweth and defendeth pluralities and Nonresidencies by setting long taks without knowledge or consent of the Kirk and by setting of fewe formes and taxwardes he raketh up all and stinteth the Minister to a poore stipendiarie portion of fiue hundreth marks So that the most Sacrilegious persons in the Land are the Bishops themselues eating the meate out of the mouthes of many worthy pastors that labour painfully in the Lords worke The Prelates objection THE PRELATE will object that there shall never be any forme of Kirk government or discipline which bringeth not with it some dangers and discommodities and that must be the best which hath the fewest It cannot be denyed but the Episcopall gouvernment hath also the owne inconvenients whether we consider the Salvation of Soules or the outward constitution of the Kirk and worship of God or the patrimonie of the Kirk But the Anarchie and confusion which ever attendeth the paritie maynteyned by the Pastor is an inconvenience greater then all sheweth plainly that the paritie of Pastors is neyther of God nor can serve for the good of the Kirk for God is not the God of confusion but of peace and most of all in the Kirks of the Saincts The Pastors answer THE gouvernment and order appoynted by Christ can haue no danger discommoditie nor inconvenience but such as men bring upon it and which through the neglect or contempte thereof they bring upon themselues That therefore must be the best which is best warranted by Christ and approacheth nearest to the simplicitie of the Apostles and the discipline of their times Malignant wits haue ever beene readie to lay imputations upon Gods ordinances as that his inward worship according to the Gospell of Christ hath no wisedome that the outward hath no majestie that his order of the Kirk is but Anarchie because it is not a monarchie but as the naturall philosopher sayth the order of nature to be full of beautie and the wise Statesman seeth the beautie of the order of a wise policie so the Christian when he seeth the order of the house of God shall with the Apostle Col. 2. rejoyce to see it and will preferre the beautie thereof to the wise government of the house Court of Salomon as being appointed by a wiser then hee euen Balaam albeit disposed to curse when his eyes are opened to behold this wise order and marvelous beautie shall be forced to open his lips and to say How goodly are thy tents o Iacob and thy tabernacles to Israell for a house full of silver and gold I would not curse for how shall I curse whom the Lord hath not cursed or how shall I defye whom the Lord hath not defyed Numb 23. and 24. And that there is no confusion in the paritie mainteyned by the Pastor it is manifest to him that desireth to see for 1. Confusion hath no subordination for disposing of things and setting every thing in it owne place The paritie mainteyned by the Pastor hath a lawfull subordination of Elders to Pastors of Deacons to Elders of a Kirk Session to a presbyterie of a presbyterie to a Synode and of a Synode to a Nationall Assembly 2. Confusion hath no prioritie of respect of precedencie nor of order Paritie of pastors so shunneth ambitiō that it mainteyneth a prioritie of precedencie and respect for age for zeale for gifts c. and a prioritie of order whereby one is moderator of others in all their Synods and meetings such as was amongst the Apostles themselues but without prioritie of power or jurisdiction aboue the rest 3. Confusion admitteth no commandement nor subjection Paritie of Pastor admitteth both for every Pastor conducteth his owne flock every pastor is subject to a joynt fellowship of pastors in Presbyteries and Synods 4. Confusion is abhorred both by nature and all Societies as their greatest enemie which overturneth all where it hath place Paritie of Pastors hath the like paritie both in nature and all sorts of societie for in nature one eye hath not power over another nor one hand over another nor one foote over another onely the head hath power over all In the common-wealth and kingdome there is a paritie without a prioritie of power of jurisdiction betwixt one Baron and another betwixt one Nobleman and another and in all the Collegiall jurisdictions in the Land under the King himselfe In the worlde paritie betwixt one King and another In the Roman Kirk equalitie betwixt one Lord Bishop and another and betwixt two Archbishops Patriarks c. and in the Kirk of Christ betwixt Apostle and Apostle c. why then shall the divine paritie of Pastors be accounted a confusion THE SIXTH PART The Pastor Prelate compared by the good of the Common wealth and of our outward estate ALbeit that sometimes the povver Ecclesiasticall be without the secular and the members of the Kirk make not any civill corporation as in the Apostles times long after And some times the secular power be vvithout the ecclesiasticall and the members of kingdomes and corporations make not a Kirk as amongst the Heathen of old and many nations and societies this day yet is it farre best both for Religion and Justice both for trueth and peace both for Kirk and Commonvvealth when both are joyned in one vvhen the Magistrate hath both svvords the use of the temporall svvord and the benefite of the spirituall svvord and vvhen the Kirk hath both svvords the use of the spirituall sword and the benefite of the temporall When the two administrations civill and ecclesiasticall like Moses and Aaron help one another mutually neyther Aaron and Miriam murmur against Moses nor Jeroboam stretcheth out his hand against the man of God Upon the one part civill authoritie mainteyneth and defendeth religion vvhere it is reformed and reformeth religion vvhere it is corrupted Kings shall be thy foster-fathers and Queenes thy nurse mothers Kings serue the Lord in fear And then serue they the Lord sayth Augustine vvhen they serue him not onely faythfully as men but as Kings and doe such things in serving him as none can doe but kings that is vvhile they rest not till
our cause vvhich is no mans particular but Christs ovvne cause should be heard at last and righteously determined that everiething in the house of the God of heauen might be done after the vvill of the God of heauen then vvhich there can be nothing more reasonable and vvhich is the summe of all our desires Our adversaries upon the contrarie out of the experience they finde of his Majesties disposition to equitie out of the conscience they haue of the iniquitie of the cause that they maintaine onely because it maintaineth their greatnes haue used all meanes to prevent his tryall haue stopped so farre as may be all vvaies of information according to the craftie counsell giuen to Pericles not being able to make account haue done vvhat they can that th●y be not called to account When Commissioners vvere to goe to his Majestie they vvould haue none but their ovvne vvhen some that vvere not their ovvne vvere chosen by a meeting of the Kirk they vvould not haue them to goe vvhich hath made us after long vvaiting in silence and many essayes to resolue in ende there being no other vvay left unto us vvith all submission of minde to send up our Pastor and Prelate in print vvho haue been impeded by the Prelates to come together in person Neither can it offend the Prelate that the Pastor speak the trueth this one time for himselfe and the Prelate since the Prelate so many times hath spoken his pleasure for both Our silence and ceasing in the cause vvould giue greatest vvorldly ease to our selues and greatest contentment to our adversaries vvho novv crye nothing but peace peace that is a peaceable possession of their honours and vvealth and a cruell oppression of their brethren But vvithall vvould proue us to be unfaythfull both to our God and to our King for beside the obligation that is commune to us vvith other reformed Kirks vve stand bound by solemne oath covenant and subscription published to the vvorld to defend the doctrin and discipline of this Kirk and to oppose the Hierarchie and all rites and ceremonies added to the vvorship of God Silence in such a cause may be sinne to other Kirks but to us it is perjurie in the sight of God and vvould also proue us unfaithfull to our King For hovvsoever the Prelates professe in publick That no Ceremonie no Bishop no Bishop no King and doe suggest in secret the service that they can doe to Monarchie they doe but minde themselues and their ovvne Idoll That government of the Kirk is most usefull for kings and kingdomes vvhich is best vvarranted by the Word of God by vvhom Kings reigne and kingdomes are established The pillars of his Majesties Throne are of Gods ovvn making Religion upon the right hand Righteousnes upon the left The pompe of Ceremonies and pride of prelacie are pillars artificially vvrought by the vvitte of man for setting up and supporting the Popes tyranny No Ceremony no Prelate no Prelate no Pope VVhen his Majesties vvisedome hath searched all these creitis of this controversie let us be reputed the vvorst of all men let us all be censured silenced consined deprived or exiled as some of us are and haue beene for a long time If the cause that vve maintain shall be found any other but that vve desire that God beserved his house ruled according to his ovvne vvill and if it shall not be found that the Kirk of God perfect in order and office-bearers vvithout Prelates and their ceremonies may be governed upon a small part of their great rents vvith more honour to God vvith more heartie obedience to the Kings Majestie vvith greater riches and glorie to the Crovvne vvith greater contentment to the body of the vvhole kirk kingdome greater peace amongst our selues and greater terror to Satan all his traine of heresie prophanesse and persecution as vve shall be ready to demonstrate particularly if this vvhich follovveth be not sufficient vvhensoever his Majestie shall be pleased to require and vvhich vve are assured his Majestie vvil perceiue upon small consideration for a minde inclined by divine povver to religion and pietie vvill not at first sight discerne be possessed vvith the loue of the heauenly beautie of the house of God they both proceeding from the same spirit God alsufficient blesse his Majestie both in peace and vvarre both in religion justice vvith such successe as may be seene euen by the envious eye of the enemy to be from the finger and favour of God and may also make his happie gouvernment to be a matter of gratulation to the Godly and to be admired and remembred by the posteritie as the measure and example of their desires vvhen they shall be vvishing for a religious and righteous King THE FIRST PART The Pastor Prelate compared by the VVord of God THat the Worship of God the Government of the Kirk vvhich is the house of God are to be learned out of his ovvn Word it is a trueth against the vvhich the gates of Hell shall never prevaile For vve ought to giue this glorie to God that all his bookes are full and vvritten on both sides as the booke of nature the booke of providence and the booke of conscience is perfect so also the scripture vvhich is the booke of grace is perfect We ought to giue this glorie to the sonne of God that as he is a perfect high Priest for reconciliation he is also a perfect Prophet for revelation and a perfect King and lawgiver for ruling of his owne Kirk and kingdome We ought also to giue this glorie to the Spirit of God that as he purposed to set dovvne a Covenant a Testament and a perfect Canon so in fulnes of wisedome he hath performed his purpose We ought humbly to acknowledge that the Kirk hath no power vvhether by translation of divine ordinances from the old to the new Testament under pretext of pietie or by imitation of the enemie seeme it never so charitable or by mans invention let it appeare never so plausible to make new lawes or to institute any nevv office or office-bearer any minister or part of ministration in the house of God But that it is her parte to see the will of God obeyed and to appoint Canons and Constitutions for the orderly and decent disposing of things before instituted We call here the Prelates and Pastors of Conformitie to a threefold consideration FIRST that they agree not amongst themselues about the matters in question some of them affirming that their Hierarchie is warranted by divine authoritie others confessing it is onely by ancient custome and a third sort defending neither of the tvvo but that it is Apostolick Againe some of them make the forme of Kirk government to be universall and perpetuall others holding it to be conformable to civill policie as if man might prescribe unto God what forme of government is fittest for his house
He beareth with men of every religion providing they be not Antiepiscopall He urgeth Ceremonies which he himselfe otherwise careth nothing for that they may be a band of obedience to the slavish and a buckler of Episcopacie against the opposites he suffereth papistrie to prevaile and new heresies to arise and giveth connivence to the Teachers of them that there may be some other matter of disputation amongst learned men then about his myter If all would follow his arte and example Antichrist Machiavel would be our chiefest Maisters and every Scottish man of spirit would proue another Caesar Borgia or Ludovieus Sfortia 3. The PASTOR according to the nature of things distinguisheth betwixt the things of God and the things of Caesar betwixt the soveraigntie of Christ and the souveraigntie of man betwixt the dignitie of the Statesman and honour of the Elder that labours in the word and doctrine betwixt the palace of the Prince and the Ministers manse the revenues of the Noble-man and the Ministers stipend and according to the grounds of policie holdeth that many offices should be conferred upon one man except rarely by the speciall favour of Princes upon some that are eminent as miracles for engine for wisedome and dexteritie by reason of mans infirmitie the weight of authoritie the order of the policie and the peace of the people that as everie thing in nature doeth the owne part the ●●nne shyneth and the wind bloweth the water moysteneth so every man should be set to his owne taske that one man cannot both be Aeneas and Hector Cato and Scipio farre lesse can one and the same person be sufficient for the greatest affaires both of Kirk and policie And therefore the Pastor keepeth himselfe within the bounds of his owne place and calling and neyther medleth with civill causes nor taketh upon him civill offices nor seeketh after civill honour The PRELATE maketh no distinction but confoundeth all as compatible ynough if he be the agent And albeit for any good parts to be no miracle but neighbourlike yet he findeth himself sufficient for everything in Kirk and Common-wealth and telleth all for fish that commeth in his nette whether Civill offices Civill Honours civill causes or civill punishments Like a Prince he hath his castle his Lordship his Regalitie Vassalry c. He hath power to confyne imprison c. and taketh it hardly when he is not preferred to Offices of estate as to be Chancellor President c. which his predecessors had of old And thus against all ground of good policie he stands in pompe as a mightie Gyant with one Foote in the Kirk upon the necks of the Ministers and with another in the state upon the heads of the Nobilitie and Gentrie 4. The PASTOR assisteth the Civill Magistrate in planting of virtue and rooting out of vice partly by powerfull preaching home to the Consciences of sinners partly by censuring lesser offences which the Magistrate punisheth not as lying uncomelie jesting rash and common swearing rotten talking brauling drunckennesse c. Wherethrough the passages to murther adulterie and other great offences are stopped the people prevented in many mischiefs and great enormities and the Magistrate many waies eased and partly in censuring of greater sinnes and purging the Kingdome of foule offences for he joyneth the Censures and the spirituall sword of the Kirk with the sword of the Magistrate so unpartially that none are spared with such expedition and diligence that sinne is censured and not forgotten with such authoritie that the most ob●tin●●e haue confessed that the Kirk had power to binde and loose with such sharpnesse and severitie that Malefactors haue beene affraide and so universally that as there is no crime censurable by the Kirk but the same is punishable by temporall Iurisdiction so he holdeth no sinne punishable by Civill Authoritie but the same is allo censurable by Spirituall power the one punishing the offender in his bodye or goods the other drawing him unto repentance and to remoue the scandall The PRELATE is unprofitable to the Civill Magistrate in planting of virtue and rooting out of vice for where his government hath place preaching hath more demonstration of Arte for the praise of the speaker then of the Spirit for the censuring of sinne and conversion of the sinner He passeth small offences without any censure thereby openeth the way to the greatest sins of murther adulterie c. and giveth the Magistrate his hands full He vendicates to his court and jurisdiction some crimes as proper for his censure which yet he passeth lightly The censures of the Kirk and sword of excommunication in his hand serue for small use against greater sins For eyther they are not used at all or so partially that the greatest sinners escape uncensured or so superficially that they are rather a matter of mocking and boldnesse in sinne then of repentance to the sinner or of removing the offence 5. The PASTOR is chargeable to no man beside his sober and necessarie maintenance allotted unto him for his necessarie service which the people can no more want then they may want religion it selfe or their owne temporall and eternall happines The PRELATE contrarie to the rules of policie against the multiplying and mainteyning of idle officebearers hath for one office serving for no good use neither to King nor Kirk nor Countrey allowance of a large rent is a great burthen and is many waies chargeable to the Commonwealth and to particular persons by his great lands and Lordship by actions of improbation reductions of feiffes declarator of esheits entresses nonentresses c. by selling of commissariats c. by raysing and rigorously exacting the Quots of Testaments by sommes of money giuen unto them their sonnes or theyr servants for presentations collations testimonials of ordination or admission sometimes by people who would be at a good Minister and ordinarily by the cannie friends of the intrant who can finde no entrie but by a golden port 6. The PASTOR would haue learning to growe considering that Schooles and Colledges are both the seminarie of the Commonwealth the Lebanon of God for building the Temple desyreth earnestly that there might be a Schoole in every congregation that the people might be more civill and might more easily learne the groundes of Religion he would haue the best ingynes chosen provided to the students places in universities the worthyest best men to the places of Teachers who might faythfully keepe the Arts and Sciences from corruption and especially the trueth of Religion as the holy fire that came down from heauen was kept by the Levites He desireth the rewards of learning to be giuen to the worthyest and after they haue received them that they be faythfull in their places least by loytering and lazinesse they become both unprofitable and unlearned The PRELATE is not so desirous of learning in himselfe as of ignorance in others
that be onely may be eminent both in Kirk and Commonwealth and all others may render him blinde obedience and respect He devoureth that himselfe which should entertaine particular schooles he filleth the places of students without tryall of their ingines to pleasure his friends and suyters contrarie to the will of the maisters and the Acts of the foundations he filleth the places of learning not with the learnedst but the welthiest sort who for any vigilancie of his might both corrupt the humane sciences and bring strange fire into the house of God If a learned man happen to attaine to one of their highest places which they call the rewards of learning incontinent their learning beginneth to decay and their former gifts to wither away So that their greate places and prelacies eyther finde them or make them unlearned 7. The PASTOR by the gouvernment of the Kirk prescribed in the word is strong to resist or represse Schismes heresies corruptions and all the spirituall power of sinne and Sathan but hath no strength to withstand the temporall power and authoritie of Princes The same gouvernment sorts with monarchie no lesse then with Aristocrasie through the wisdome of the Sonne of God who fitteth the same for all nations and diverse formes of civill policie The Pastor acknowledgeth his Prince to be his onely Bishop and overseer superintendent over the whole Kirk in his dominions as being the preserver of the liberties of the Kirk and keeper of both tables To whom also the generall assembly of the Kirk of some few commissioners chosen by them and convened when it is thought expedient by the Kings Commissioner may giue his Majestie better and more speedy satisfaction in Kirk affaires and with greater loue and contentment of the whole Kirk and of all his Majesties loving subjects then can be giuen by the thirteene Prelates All which may be done upon a small parte of the prelates rent for bearing the charges of his Majesties Commissioner who also may be changed at his Majesties pleasure The PRELATE and his gouvernment it weake to withstand the spirituall forces of sinne and Sathan but is strong to oppose the temporall power of princes and hath beene of all enemies the most dangerous to monarchie for howsoever now while opposition is made he flatter fawne upon the Prince for his owne standing yet if all Ministers and the whole Kingdome did acknowledge his Superioritie of binde the conscience the Primate of the Kirk would be powerfull then any Subject in the kingdome and might proue as terrible to Kings whatsoever their Religion were as Popes haue beene to Emperors and Prelates haue beene to Kings in former times He hath no power for all his credite and Lordly authority to get any thing done to his Majesties satisfaction and with contentment of the Kirk for all the craft and violence that hath been so long bended never one whole famous congregation within the Kingdome is eyther conquested or like to be subdued to his Conformitie but eyther the better or greater part or both haue resisted And yet for his Lordly maintenance he hath impayred the rent of the crowne in so farre as it was aided by the collectorie he pulleth from the King the rents of great benefices the homage of Vassales with their commodities Regalities other priviledges more proper for the Scepter then the Shepheards staffe 8. The PASTOR desyreth no other title but to be called the minister of the towne or parish he stryveth with no man for precedencie he seekth no place in the Common wealth neyther in Counsell Session nor Exchequor but stirreth up and soundeth the Trumpet in the eare of the generous spirits of the Kingdome to shewe themselues worthy of their owne places and whether he be Minister in brough or land he is a Common servant to all from the highest to the lowest to parents and children to Masters fervants in all pastorall dueties while he liveth he harmeth none but helping all procuring honour to the greater maintenance to the poorer sorte when his life is brought to a comfortable end every soule blesseth him and all mourne for him as for a common parent The PRELATE according to the politicall axiome When vertue waineth Vanity waxeth and many titles much vanitie disdayning to he called any more the Minister of Christ hath taken upon him the Titles of the Nobilitie My Lord of Orknay My Lord or Cathnes My Lord of Murray My Lord of Argyl c. with the title he taketh the place before them and filleth their places in Councell and Session and when risen up from his dunghill he is set on high places and is drunken with his new honours he lefteth his eares like Isis Asse aud as handmaides when they become mistresses he waxeth so insolent that he can not be borne In his owne citie he will haue momage of all overtruleth the election of their Magistrates harmeth both parents and children through the Countrey by giving warrant far suddaine and secret mariages without proclamation which the verye Counsell of Trent cannot but allow he taketh the honour of the greater to himselfe and spends that upon his pride which should serue for the poorer sorte And when after many wishes his life at last is brought to an ende the whole Diocie is filled with joy and his owne familie and friends are filled with centempt and disgrace 9. The PASTOR maketh the Kingdome fitte for warre against the time that necessities giue alarme for by labouring to make the people truly religious he maketh them resolute for both parts of Christian fortitude actiue and passiue for doing valiantly and suffering constantly In the time of peace he stirreth them up against softnesse and intemperancie to diligence and labour whereby their bodies are the more able and durable He strengtheneth also the nerues of warre by contenting himselfe with a meane estate by his doctrine and example teaching people to spare in peace for the time of warre The PRELATE maketh the Kingdome unfitte for warre for by his government the people loose true fortitude with the loue of Religion that if they haue any kinde of Courage for battayle it is not so much the invincible courage of Christian Religion as the carnall and bastard Fortitude of Paganisme which in comparison of the former hath ever been but pusillanimitie By his oversight of ryoting and idlenes their bodies become weake and effeminate and by his owne large rents and his example of prodigalitie which to them is a law he enervates the estate and cutts asunder the sinewes of warre The Prelates objection THE Prelate will object that if you that are Pastors understoode eyther the manners of the people or the grounds of policie ye would see that neyther can Noblemen and others giuen to their pleasure beare your simple and censorious forme of preaching nor your austeere and precise forme of discipline and life nor yet can the High Court of Parliament wante
with hurting of the conscience of the intrant c Dignitatibus viros dandos non dignitates hominibus dicere solitus Aeneas Syl. Platina Magistratus alios mereri non habere alios habere non mereri ib. d Praesidentia non ex virtute sed malitia astimatur nō dignorum sed potētiorum sunt throni cathedra sine ullo acquiritur labore prelati sunt qui nihil ad grad● praeterquam velle adferunt Nazianz Si percūctari velles quis eos praefecerit Sacerdotes respondent m●x dicunt ab Archiepiscopo nuper sum Episcopus ordinatus centumque 〈◊〉 solidos dedi ut Episcopalem gradum assequi meruissem quoi si minimè dedissem hodie episcopus non essem Ambros. citante Bulling decad 5. serm 4. Curritur ad curas ecclesiasticas a doctis pariter indoctis quasi quisque sine curis victurus sit cum ad curas pervenerit Bern. epist. 42. The pastor by all means seeketh the peace of the Kirk the prelate seeketh his owne peace prosperitie e Sicut olim pestiferam illam vestiā quae per Ari●s● primo de infernis extulerat caput cupiditus episcopatus induxit sic hodiernam haeresin nimirum pontificis Romani primatum pracipuè nutriunt quos jam men●●care suppudet Aeneas Syl. The Pastor contents himself with his competent stipend the prelate is a master of the Kirks patrimonio Object Paritie is Anarchie and confusion Ans. Shewing by many particulars that the order of the ministerie appointed by Christ is far from confusion f Distinguendum inter autoritatem meriti potestatis It is best both for Kirk and State whē civill and ecclesiasticall authoritie joyne together Civill authoritie doeth good to religion a Esa. 49. 23. b Psal. 2. 11. Quomodo ergo reges Domino serviunt in timore nisi ea qua cōtra jussa Domini fiunt religiosa severitate prohibendo a●que plectendo aliter enim servit quiahomo est aliter quia etiā rex est quia homo est ei servit fideliter vivendo quia vero etiā rex est servit leges justa praecipientes cōtraria prohibentes convenienti rigore sanciendo sicut servivit Ezechias lucos templa idolorū illa excelsa quae contra praecepta Dei fuerant constructa destruendo Sicut servivit Iosias talia ipse faciendo Sicut servivit rex Ninivitaru universam civitatem ad placandū Dominis cōpellendo Sicut servivit Darius idolum frang●ndū in potestatem Danieli dado inimicos ejus leonibus ingerendo Sicut servivit Nebuchad omnes in regno suo positos a blasphemando Dei lege terribili prohibendo In hoc ergo serviunt Domino reges in quantūsunt reges cum 〈◊〉 faciunt ad serviendū 〈◊〉 quae non p●ssunt facere 〈◊〉 reges August epist. ser 〈◊〉 ad Bonifacium Religion doeth good to 〈◊〉 the whole commonweal c Hostis Herodes impie Christum venire quid times non cripit mortalia qui regna dot coelesti● Sedulius Hymn d Omne sub regno gravioriregnum est Sonec Traged The best religion is best for the state The Pastor preserveth the Commonwealth which the prelate ruinateth e Non tam numerorum simulacra inania aut Solis syderum immutabilū ratio urbes regna perdunt quam impietas primum deinde injustitia virtutum expu●trix luxuria Dom. de la None discurs polit 1. Causas eversionis reipublicae quaerunt in ipsa reipublica Arist. polit 5. Bodian de reipub libr. 4. Daneus politi cap. 5. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Xenoph. paed Cyr. 8. Fulix respublica esse non potest stantibus moenibus ruentibus moribus Chokier Haec nisi urbe ab●rant centuplex murus rebus servandis parum est Plaut The pastor loveth Christian simplicitie and not Machivels policie the prelate liketh policie more then that simplicity f Ante omnia optandum principi ut pius videatur non tamen ut sit Oportet principem semper adversari● in se alere ut eo oppresso potentior videatur Religio animos hominum primit servitia subditos 〈◊〉 officio continet Tuta est civitas quae dissidia f●ctiones nutrit Machiv de princ comment in Livium g Alter urbinatem alter Mediolanensem Ducatum artibus Machiavellicis invasit ad tempus tenuit uterque Machiavellicae politiae exemplar perfectissimum misero periit Dane polit praef●t The Pastor distinguisheth betwixt things civill and ecclesiasticall and holdeth him at his owne calling the prelate confoundeth all and will rule all h 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Aristot polit 4. i Nemo sequens existimat se posse simul Aeneam Hectorem Catonem Scipionem in thea●ro ci●itatis agere Cas. polit● libr. 2. k Romani Macedones Lacedamonij legem tulerunt ut nemo duobus simul fungatur officis Metiothus exercitū ducit Metiothus vias ●urat Metiothus furinā tractat Metiothus cūctis aliis praest Metiothus itaque plorabit Plutarch The Pastor assisteth the civill Magistrate the prelat hindreth him l H●c coertio ad Christe norman dirigitur latenter primum amice deinde paulo acerbius tunc nisi paret sequitur interdictio sacrorum gravis efficax interdictionem animadversio magistratus Ita sit ut quae legibus nusquavindicantur illie sine vi tumul tu coerceantur igitur nulla meretricia nullae ebrietates nullae saltationes nulli mendici nulli otiosi in ea civitate reperiuntur Bodin de rep Ge●nevens meth 〈◊〉 cap. 6. The pastor profitable to the commonwealth but not chargeable the prelate chargeable but not profitable m Non est studendum ut plurimi sint in repub magistratus sed ut quam cōmodissime optime gerant remp ij qui erunt necessarij The pastor a ma●●●ner of Schooles and learning the Prelate of neither n Quales schola exhibet h●mines tales habitura est respublica Dan. pol. Hinc major pars salutis vel corruptionis reip pendet ex scholarum fontibus divini humani ●ur● praesidium vel expugnatio oritur ibi enim discuntur prima literarum monumenta artes ingenuae mores jura divina humana quae omnia permaxi me interest incontaminata servari c. Greg. Tholos lib. 13. cap. 3. Plebeiis argenti nobilibus auri principibus gemmarum loco literas esse debere Aeneas Syl. Platina Indoctus Episcopus asino comparandus idem The Pastors governmēt by assemblies meeter for a Monarchie thē the episcopal gouvernment o Possunt judicare non possunt praejudicare habent vim charitatis non habent vim authoritatis Hugo de S. victore de sacram part 2. p Quod si Christiani olim non deposuerunt Neronem Dioclesianum Iulianum apostatam ac Valentem Arianum similes id fuit quia deerant vires temporales Christianis Bellarm. de Rom. Pont. l. 5. c. 7. pessime sed ut Hierarchicum decebat The Pastor taketh no mans title nor dignitie nor place the Prelate taketh all these from the Nobles and Peeres of the Land q Virtute decrescente crescit vanitas titulorum arrogantia proverbium de repub Veneta cū usurparetur titulus Domine sim pliciter tunc ●acta est resp cum Domine stabilita est Magnifice Domine tunc eversa est Plebeios ex humili. genere natos si ad dignitates honores pervenerint immemires suae sortis plerumque ambitione insolenter se efficere aliosque deptimere conari cōstat ijdē multo insolentiores propemodum intollerabiliores magna cū actura reip esse solent quā qui nobili celebri vetere stirpe geniti sunt ita ut veterū ille rectè dixerit Baiuli imperāt mali sunt superiores bonis ●etuo ne navē fluctus opprimat Camer cent 2. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Epig. grac. The Pastor maketh the mindes the bodies and estates of the people sit for warre the prel disableth all r Fortiter ille facit qui mi●ser esse potest Object The estates of parliament cannot bear the severitie of Pastors nor want the prelates to be the third estate Ans. Shewing that the faythfull pastor will at some time be found comfortable to all estates and that the parliament may be perfect without the Prelates Conclusion A generall objection answered s Aliud est injusta potestate justè velle uti aliud est justa potestate injustè velle uti August de bono conjug cap. 14.